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Health Psychedelics and risk of seizures

cloaks

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Hi everyone,

Some years back I suffered multiple grand mal seizures due to drug abuse, addiction that I today am free from.

While these seizures were caused by benzo withdrawal and tramadol od, these past experiences can still make me anxious and turn a fun or productive trip on LSD into something else where I suddenly start to worry that the LSD might trigger another seizure - this without any actual knowledge if this is a thing or not.

I can usually calm my self down within a reasonable time span if this occurs, but still, it is something that often can ruin the rest of the trip for me.

So I would like to ask if anyone can inform me on this subject and possibly point me to any available data.

I do not think I am sensitive to flashing lights or such classical triggers for seizures, mine were self-inflicted medically. I am however on the careful side and only use psychedelics at home or in nature in a calm setting. I like gardening on it, especially 😊
 
I had a seizure from acute benzo WD. I don't believe it changed any threshold I may have to experience another seizure. I've tripped dozens of times since.
 
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I've had a variety of seizures from a variety of causes. Some while under general anesthesia, two from being hit by motor vehicles, one from an acute lorazepam withdrawal as a foolish teenager, a handful from skateboarding/ice/snow related antics. Psychedelics have yet to induce any for me at least, and the literature people provided above seems to also support that psychedelic use is probably fine in this regard, just my hunch at least.
 
tramadol is also psychedelic
I've had tramadol induce what I'd consider light psychedelic experiences. Oral 5-8mg of 2C-B equivalent, similar to how large doses of tapentadol remind me of the feeling of intranasal bupropion? Sometimes these weirder opioids (as in, drugs that activate mu and delta opioid receptors) that aren't opiates (as in, derived from the alkaloids of the opium poppy Papaver somniferum) have very peculiar side effects. Salvia functions on the kappa opioid receptor, it makes sense as to why salvia breakthroughs can induce opioid-style sweating fits for example. Pentazocine and this recent big pharma psychedelic that Gilgamesh patented, GM-3009 I think it was? 4-Allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog is the wicked verbose name of it, it's neat that there are monied interests doing the hard work of figuring this shit out so that, at some inevitable point in the future, clandestine and distributed chemists can work off the research they did.

Tianeptine notoriously amplifies all serotonergics for me to the point of being like a harmala-level amplifier, if I eat 80mg of tianeptine sulfate and put two drops of liquid LSD in each eyeball, the experience is like an oxycodone-flavored experience closer to 10-12 of those drops orally, they were quantitatively measured at ~125mcg. Tapentadol also really shines in the presence of Soma because carisoprodol is sedative in a way that tapentadol sort of "balances out", the really common "red apple" pressies that circulate contain both of these drugs together in a ratio I personally find underwhelming (needs more Soma), but many people enjoy them. I've always wondered if Tramadol would be interesting to coadminister in a therapeutic psychedelic session, tianeptine sure shines.
 
You have a very uninformed concept of recreating gilgamesh's circumstances forwarding some idyllic wasteful fantasy,

grow up.

waste of time, to think that participating with the experts should involve your delusional posts. It is lacking in substance.

From some ivy league indoctrination, clearly, they let those opinions skew the hard info and give some monied interests funding, for you to learn to spell it out to them, so let me tell you. When the drug companies demand they have a lead who is the authority, they have a parent company do the oversight.

Gilgamesh was one of my first posts on bl.
I cannot afford too let this continue.

Uncle Fester writing also has made imitators of those who interest is authentic, for those who may have found their sources pushed to another part of the internet.

Id seen this in a trip report.id read thousands of them.

monied interests are not the authority here, your proof is.

Personally, had their efforts and there nepotism landed somewhere else,

i would like to think that the concepts of psychedelic exclusion is truthfully represented in media,

Grow the fuck up and tell the people,



another delay in the sector of industry.

Lets assume you dont know what your writing about.

That is one unbelievable pharmacuetical speedball.
 
You have a very uninformed concept of recreating gilgamesh's circumstances forwarding some idyllic wasteful fantasy,

grow up.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-51856-y <- Check the supplemental data section for synthetic info. Their initial route to 4-allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog is absolutely fucking absurd, but it's led to the discovery of what I think may be the smallest molecule to selectively upmodulate the kappa subreceptor. If anybody knows of smaller please let me know. I am a long time admirer of salvia, but working with salvia and expecting consistency is a formula for disappointment, coming from someone who spent a few years cultivating it. Is your problem with the pursuit of kappa PAMs as therapeutics, or is it with the idea of a corporation working on psychedelics/adjacent hallucinogens? Shulgin's initial work was funded by his position at DOW. Ariadne, DOM, DOET, MDMA, mescaline, LSD, ethocin, MDA, AMT and AET are all also drugs that have been patented before, but that doesn't interfere with getting them into the hands of folks who need them without a cent making its way to the company that held the patent.

ASRI (the Alexander Shulgin Research Institute) has two patents right now, one for 2C-B-5-Isopropoxy and the other for 5-MeO-iPALT. Are you arguing this is also invalid for some poorly articulated reason? I fear I'm wasting my time even responding to this post tbh, the more I reread what you wrote the less sense you make.

You say you can't afford to let this continue, but I can't figure out what it is you think you're going to lose from Gilgamesh developing things like Blixeprodil, Bretisilocin, etc., are you a competing company in the space of FDA-approved hallucinogens? I doubt it, you'd probably be able to write a cohesive comment. I still think it's worth amusing your half-assed opinions despite your apparent stance that telling me to "grow up" is meaningful in any way.
waste of time, to think that participating with the experts should involve your delusional posts. It is lacking in substance.

From some ivy league indoctrination, clearly, they let those opinions skew the hard info and give some monied interests funding, for you to learn to spell it out to them, so let me tell you. When the drug companies demand they have a lead who is the authority, they have a parent company do the oversight.

Gilgamesh was one of my first posts on bl.
What was delusional in the mention of a pharmaceutical with no history of human use yet being viewed as neat? As far as I'm aware, 4-allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog has not yet seen human use at least, maybe you're aware of more? If you have legitimate information about Gilgamesh that supports any claims you want to make, I'd love to hear it dude, as a mod on this forum I will specifically support the platforming of any information relevant to harm reduction in the psychedelic space. If you have some, feel free to reach out with it, we'll make sure it gets signalboosted here. So far I've had a couple people tell me they have information like this though, to then show nothing for it.
Uncle Fester writing also has made imitators of those who interest is authentic, for those who may have found their sources pushed to another part of the internet.
I hope Fester's found stable housing and employment again, last I heard of him was during Covid. I don't think Fester made imitators of shit personally, I think he catalyzed the intersection of an interest in drugs with people who already had a background in chemistry. Nobody I've ever known to half-assedly cook up meth in the US has ever even known who Fester is though, idk may just be regional bias or something. Every single person had been taught by people before them, usually as an oral tradition associated with organized crime networks, and the information inevitably leaks out into those peoples' relatives and friends. Most people with meaningful chem backgrounds synth themselves lisdexamphetamine instead of N-methylamphetamine from my personal observations, but I really can't tell the two apart experientially when orally dosed.
Id seen this in a trip report.id read thousands of them.
Where did you encounter a trip report of 4-allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog? I couldn't find anything, and as far as having read thousands of TRs, join the club buddy. You're on Bluelight. It's probably a good portion of us here.
monied interests are not the authority here, your proof is.

Personally, had their efforts and there nepotism landed somewhere else,

i would like to think that the concepts of psychedelic exclusion is truthfully represented in media,

Grow the fuck up and tell the people,
Proof is absolutely the relevant thing here, I'd love it if you could provide some to back up a single cohesively formed point, at least. It'd be a start. What is psychedelic exclusion? And what is it that I need to "grow the fuck up and tell the people" about? Idk if this is just lazily written out, you were intoxicated, or this is some sort of cognitive thing going on but every word I write, I find myself more convinced you're wasting peoples' time on purpose.
another delay in the sector of industry.

Lets assume you dont know what your writing about.
The sector of industry? I'd love a definition on this one too. You write like a fucking LLM hallucination dude, if a simple comment on a forum induces questions instead of answers at the rate yours does, it might just be flouting Grice's maxims that can pretty easily discern whether opening your mouth/writing a word is useful or not. Assume what you want too, I'd implore you to always be critical of info sources but somehow I doubt you have the capacity to meaningfully authenticate information, and especially to generate a well rounded opinion on uh, idk probably anything but I don't know you dude, just this one timesink of a comment.
That is one unbelievable pharmacuetical speedball.
I assume this is referring to the tianeptine combinations I was talking about? If so, then damn straight it is dude, tianeptine's a fascinating compound.
 
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-024-51856-y <- Check the supplemental data section for synthetic info. Their initial route to 4-allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog is absolutely fucking absurd, but it's led to the discovery of what I think may be the smallest molecule to selectively upmodulate the kappa subreceptor. If anybody knows of smaller please let me know. I am a long time admirer of salvia, but working with salvia and expecting consistency is a formula for disappointment, coming from someone who spent a few years cultivating it. Is your problem with the pursuit of kappa PAMs as therapeutics, or is it with the idea of a corporation working on psychedelics/adjacent hallucinogens? Shulgin's initial work was funded by his position at DOW. Ariadne, DOM, DOET, MDMA, mescaline, LSD, ethocin, MDA, AMT and AET are all also drugs that have been patented before, but that doesn't interfere with getting them into the hands of folks who need them without a cent making its way to the company that held the patent.

ASRI (the Alexander Shulgin Research Institute) has two patents right now, one for 2C-B-5-Isopropoxy and the other for 5-MeO-iPALT. Are you arguing this is also invalid for some poorly articulated reason? I fear I'm wasting my time even responding to this post tbh, the more I reread what you wrote the less sense you make.

You say you can't afford to let this continue, but I can't figure out what it is you think you're going to lose from Gilgamesh developing things like Blixeprodil, Bretisilocin, etc., are you a competing company in the space of FDA-approved hallucinogens? I doubt it, you'd probably be able to write a cohesive comment. I still think it's worth amusing your half-assed opinions despite your apparent stance that telling me to "grow up" is meaningful in any way.

What was delusional in the mention of a pharmaceutical with no history of human use yet being viewed as neat? As far as I'm aware, 4-allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog has not yet seen human use at least, maybe you're aware of more? If you have legitimate information about Gilgamesh that supports any claims you want to make, I'd love to hear it dude, as a mod on this forum I will specifically support the platforming of any information relevant to harm reduction in the psychedelic space. If you have some, feel free to reach out with it, we'll make sure it gets signalboosted here. So far I've had a couple people tell me they have information like this though, to then show nothing for it.

I hope Fester's found stable housing and employment again, last I heard of him was during Covid. I don't think Fester made imitators of shit personally, I think he catalyzed the intersection of an interest in drugs with people who already had a background in chemistry. Nobody I've ever known to half-assedly cook up meth in the US has ever even known who Fester is though, idk may just be regional bias or something. Every single person had been taught by people before them, usually as an oral tradition associated with organized crime networks, and the information inevitably leaks out into those peoples' relatives and friends. Most people with meaningful chem backgrounds synth themselves lisdexamphetamine instead of N-methylamphetamine from my personal observations, but I really can't tell the two apart experientially when orally dosed.

Where did you encounter a trip report of 4-allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog? I couldn't find anything, and as far as having read thousands of TRs, join the club buddy. You're on Bluelight. It's probably a good portion of us here.

Proof is absolutely the relevant thing here, I'd love it if you could provide some to back up a single cohesively formed point, at least. It'd be a start. What is psychedelic exclusion? And what is it that I need to "grow the fuck up and tell the people" about? Idk if this is just lazily written out, you were intoxicated, or this is some sort of cognitive thing going on but every word I write, I find myself more convinced you're wasting peoples' time on purpose.

The sector of industry? I'd love a definition on this one too. You write like a fucking LLM hallucination dude, if a simple comment on a forum induces questions instead of answers at the rate yours does, it might just be flouting Grice's maxims that can pretty easily discern whether opening your mouth/writing a word is useful or not. Assume what you want too, I'd implore you to always be critical of info sources but somehow I doubt you have the capacity to meaningfully authenticate information, and especially to generate a well rounded opinion on uh, idk probably anything but I don't know you dude, just this one timesink of a comment.

I assume this is referring to the tianeptine combinations I was talking about? If so, then damn straight it is dude, tianeptine's a fascinating compound.
tianeptine does seem great for nicotine substitutes, harmala- i am hopeful for, though it is probably the most dangerous.

Id stopped smoking for almost 5 years. effective smoking cessation. Determined to quit.

Psychedelic Exclusion- without the need to push the threshold experiences, at non trad approach to assert and develop treatments as auxiliary.

This use of stimulants, is in my experience Curving the a behavior trend upward.



This is the third time I've had to learn to a new model updating my own program improve this intention.

How does one compete with cooperations interests support companies in the development space, that lack the FDA approved model? There is no competition.

Sectors compete for funding this model to premier to industry, i had no idea this was a club that was ready to compete.

Naturally. Id been close to the founders of certain harm reduction chapters, housing participants, funding treatments.

Authentic. Experience in the founding of another advocacy group, harm reduction propelles me constantly.

Needs were more than my hiatus could handle.
First check they gave me i did just that. Staying power. Id not known it was going to work.

I was looking for developments in iboga analogs, the vomiting part of this.

Id not seen the scale of research to date, that was analogous to Pharma-uacsca supposed preventing vomitting.
 
recent big pharma psychedelic that Gilgamesh patented, GM-3009 I think it was? 4-Allyl-6-oxa-noribogainalog is the wicked verbose name of it, it's neat that there are monied interests doing the hard work of figuring this shit out so that, at some inevitable point in the future, clandestine and distributed chemists can work off the research they did.

I wouldn't necessarily put all that into the biotech companies/pharma sector - particularly for psychedelic research & discovery. Maybe for receptors, mechanisms & signalling pathways absolutely; but not necessarily for ligands. The problem of 2A tunnel vision is real. Have you heard of Nichols company 2A Biosciences...

To clarify, the on-going ligand discoveries are excellent sure. But I think the unique Shulgin ethos is missing, a certain je-ne-sais-quoi.
 
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The problem of 2A tunnel vision is real.
As we narrow things down we can widen them up again.

Yes, but the impact may be underestimated. I think Nichols truly engrained this '2A tunnel vision' into the field when he redefined psychedelic as HT2A-only in 2022:
The first debate the editorial board had was to decide the meaning of the term psychedelic, in the context of...standardizing scientific terminology.
For that reason, Psychedelic Medicine...proposes that the term “psychedelic” used in the broader scientific sense is limited to the description of psychoactive substances that have as a primary mechanism of action activation of 5-HT2A receptors. (source)

As helpful as this may be, I wonder whether he truly realises the ramifications of this redefinition. Specifically in light of the compartmentalised mentality of his peers and their tendency to "follow the consensus" per se.
 
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Auxiliary programming. the stigma of this research, when they dont take this seriously it is far from their wallets or checkbooks. Black card and credit cards out for this.

Science fiction until then seizures stop.

with your debts and your assumptions.

Granting, their is time for this. No amount of cocaine reversals is going to, work to align their results with the budgets, and then shove each other into court houses and back and forth, but id seen the charts. Id seen to much. They ones they labeled with opioid use disorders and cannabis use disorders certain their hunch. Nothing was stopping their science fiction based stigmas from the trad programming. Last hold out of the programs. None of this is new to Healthcare model advocacy groups advance directives and then people start to lose their family when their conceptual pathways.

I could not stand it. Only more red tape here. Once id seen a concept. the end of the marijuana and opioid analgesic stigma and seizures. This is Impossible for them. Science fiction
 
Until they would set administration to gatekeep all.of the.budget.theyd lost their return on investment with the big pharma companies.

i d ask them who started this... use your best guess... why their is another global war inside the cooperate pharmacuetical interests, inside the research and development. They had enough prolonging.

Misdiagnosis and victims and sectors that could use this label did intend to see the resulting single
Evidence. They had jailed most of the people stamp your competition. They'd had to free no one from their brainwashing dabbled them into their addiction to obscene violence they created for their money. Instead they decided to force them to travel. Missed their funeral. Sponsored by bluelight.org

2008- present day
 
Had several blackouts/seizures from psychedelics. Not my first time but subsequent times I have mainly from psilocybin, dmt vaped and 2ct-7 though the latter was confirmed snorting it can kill you that way and I was daft and in a bad place at the time
 
... and put two drops of liquid LSD in each eyeball ...
Had to check that out LSD on the eyeball. Read about it maybe seemed made up.
You actually done that seriously. Dont you waste a lot of LSD that way. I would
Developed good technigues and steady hands. But doesnt seem a recommended ROA.
The solution you use made for it. Whats the benfit versus risk doesnt seem recommended

If you read what this fool did took eye-dropping to another level putting it up as reminder
When using drugs do use a bity of common sensi. :ROFLMAO:

https://www.ovid.com/jnls/corneajrn...ase-report-of-transconjunctival-lysergic-acid
 
Had to check that out LSD on the eyeball. Read about it maybe seemed made up.
You actually done that seriously. Dont you waste a lot of LSD that way. I would
Developed good technigues and steady hands. But doesnt seem a recommended ROA.
The solution you use made for it. Whats the benfit versus risk doesnt seem recommended

If you read what this fool did took eye-dropping to another level putting it up as reminder
When using drugs do use a bity of common sensi. :ROFLMAO:

https://www.ovid.com/jnls/corneajrn...ase-report-of-transconjunctival-lysergic-acid
Wow yeah that guy put blotter in his eyes, I was using sterile saline that is uh, I guess it's the same as if bacstat didn't have the alcohol in it. The solution was intended to be a "distro vial", meant to be broken down into 5 separate vials or 5 sheets for distribution, but since I don't do that it was essentially just a very overpowered vial of liquid LSD to me. None is wasted since none leaves my eyes, but I'm really acclimated to putting contact lenses in and using eyedrops already so maybe I just have become more used to putting things in my eyes.

And yes, I've seriously done this, tens of times at a minimum. If using a known sterile solution, I'm not too sure as to what the risks are, people apply medicated eyedrops in the form of visine often.
 
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