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psychedelic without psychedelics

Kinda. I've reached states that, in some ways, closely resembled LSD trips of mine. I did it by practicing a certain method of meditation, I guess you could say.
 
Yes, its called meditation and it is what psychedelics are measured against in many cultures. (which is to say, it is considered to be more rewarding than the drugs) You simply must try it. It may take a long, long while to have researched meditation and practiced meditation enough to be able to truly enjoy all aspects of its highest peaks, but it is worth it.
 
i aggree with the above statements i tried meditation and i cant maintain it more than 30 mins (not cause i get distracted but cause am bored i guess its cause i do something wrong-- i also tried extatic dance and it deffinetly yellds huge effect (stamina, euphoria, stimulation, from nowhere)also , i reasearched the runners high effect and experimented with it it also deffinetlly has euphoric effect similar to extatic dance , also drumming fast heartbeats and making throat sounds makes me high .. reapiting mantras is also good -- but i cant meditate everyday for long time its hard also just listening to trance music heightenns you up
 
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it is absolutely possible for some people. unless you dont believe you create dmt.
 
apparently if you load your body with melatonin and dwell in darkness your body begins to produce much higher levels of DMT and even 5-meo-DMT
 
SONN said:
Yes. It is very possible.

http://www.universal-tao.com/dark_room/enlightenment.html

^and that website describes all of the biological mechanisms behind the process.
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Eh... it explains the "biological mechanisms" with no cited sources, can't easily find anything to confirm the process, and in efforts to sell a service.

Sounds like the type of talk found in those selling quantum mysticism related products/books/services.

Anyone have any more information on the validity of this process?
 
You should look after shamanic techniques of ecstasy, there are many ways to achieve psychedelic states of conciousness... without drugs they mostly involve some kind of physical stress perturbating the brain chemistry. Exploring lucid dreaming may be interesting too.
 
SameOldShit101 said:
Yes, its called meditation and it is what psychedelics are measured against in many cultures. (which is to say, it is considered to be more rewarding than the drugs) You simply must try it. It may take a long, long while to have researched meditation and practiced meditation enough to be able to truly enjoy all aspects of its highest peaks, but it is worth it.
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If you've practiced enough, it takes a matter of seconds to slip into the deepest states of meditation.
 
Aetherius Rimor said:
Eh... it explains the "biological mechanisms" with no cited sources, can't easily find anything to confirm the process, and in efforts to sell a service.

Sounds like the type of talk found in those selling quantum mysticism related products/books/services.

Anyone have any more information on the validity of this process?
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http://ewphysics.blogspot.com/2006/12/psychic-chakra-pinoline.html

I probably will never actually go to Thailand and participate in one of these retreats but in the coming summer I might try to experiment with a few friends and take like 7mg melatonin right before bed for like a month then try and dwell in the complete darkness of my basement for a few days and see if we can manage to have an all natural endohuasca(just made that up myself) trip.
 
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