Psychedelic Drugs Redux: Don't Leapfrog the Research

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Psychedelic Drugs Redux: Don't Leapfrog the Research
Jeffrey A. Lieberman, MD
Disclosures July 17, 2015

Hello. This is Dr Jeffrey Lieberman of Columbia University in New York City, speaking to you today for Medscape. I am calling my comments "Psychedelic Drugs Redux" because we are experiencing appeals for the use—for therapeutic purposes—of drugs that previously were considered recreational hallucinogens. To some degree, this resonates with an earlier blog on ketamine, which could have been titled "When Practice Leaps Ahead of Research." In the case of ketamine, I was highlighting the growing use of ketamine based on very solid research indicating that it was effective as an antidepressant agent, particularly in patients with treatment-refractory disease. My point was that the increasing use of ketamine for these purposes and other psychiatric indications had leapfrogged the research that would systematically determine the safety and benefits of ketamine usage for these purposes.

In the case of psychedelic drugs, we have something that is similar but with some important differences. During recent months and years, there have been calls in the media (and to some degree in the professional literature) for the use of various psychedelic agents for psychotherapeutic purposes. Specifically, these appeals referred to lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), psilocybin, ayahuasca—which is used for religious rituals in some South American and Central American indigenous populations—and finally MDMA (methylenedioxy-methamphetamine) or ecstasy. These have been proposed to be useful for various disorders, including post-traumatic stress disorder, addiction, depression, and various types of personality disorders.

These pleas are occurring in an environment with no framework or context for how the drugs should be studied and on what basis they could be used safely. As most people know, psychedelic drugs were developed and began to be studied for medical purposes in the 1950s. In the 1960s, these drugs were ensnared by the social and cultural turmoil of the counterculture and because of their widespread recreational use. They were made illegal and then were banned from medical research.

At that time, there was promising evidence for their useful application to treat mental disorders, but this really was never fully developed to a degree that the data could be reviewed by the FDA to determine whether they were safe and effective for clinical practice. We have had a nearly 50-year hiatus in any serious investigation, except for some heroic investigators at a few universities, primarily in Europe but also in the United States.

We Need to Study These Drugs

We are now seeing increasing calls for using (or at least studying) these drugs from people within the medical profession and outside the medical profession, in the general public of informed observers of literature on this topic. My point is not to say that these drugs should be discounted and relegated to the criticism and dismissal similar to that of clearly unfounded new-age, nutraceutical, or naturopathic treatments, for which we have no basis for claims of therapeutic efficacy. These psychedelic drugs clearly are pharmacologically active, have profound effects, could be useful for therapeutic purposes, and need to be studied in an intensive and extensive way before an informed determination can be made. If not, we will find ourselves in a situation that may resemble what we are seeing with marijuana, with its increasing legalization despite having an inadequate knowledge base, because of social and political pressure.

continued here http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/847768

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I consider myself a scientist and my thinking reflects this. However, I do not believe that science should stand in the way of this. This world has some long standing "flaws" that need to be fixed. Greed and power lust cultivate division, intolerance, competition and conflict.

What parameters will the scientific community base their studies and their conclusions on?

The world's current morals and values are greatly misdirected IMO. So if the scientific conclusions are based on current thinking then the the effects may be erroneously concluded negative, even radically so.

My view is many scientists should play catch up on their own time and not hold the world back in an attempt to give the use of psychedelics, that have been used for God knows how long, a safe bill of health.
 
My view is many scientists should play catch up on their own time and not hold the world back in an attempt to give the use of psychedelics, that have been used for God knows how long, a safe bill of health.

Alcohol and opium have been used for millennia as well :|

Lieberman comes off as somewhat overcautious (the idea that our knowledge base regarding marijuana is insufficient to justify legalization seems silly to me), but I agree that we need to avoid diving in headfirst when it comes to this second wave of psychedelic research, or we could cause more harm than good both to those seeking treatment and to the longterm goal of implementing psychedelic therapy as a treatment modality into mainstream medicine. What we need is a slow, methodical series of studies into the benefits and side effects of each drug in regard to each disorder, the ideal setup for utilizing the drug (set and setting), the degree of restriction required (selling them at the corner store is not the way to go imo) and the establishment of proper treatment facilities (I imagine such a facility would end up looking like something between a mental health hospital, a research center and a meditation retreat, where patients can either stay or return on a regular basis for a series of treatments which combine talk therapy, CBT, meditative and yogic techniques, philosophical discourse and a scattering of appropriately timed, carefully guided hallucinogenic experiences -what needs to be avoided is cheap "dose for cash" clinics with many patients and high fees, akin to the one which was recently shut down in Sydney, but also clinics which allow religion/spirituality/metaphysics/philosophy to override scientific methodology).
 
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It would be nice if they did study them, or did further studies with psychedelics and research chemicals but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

NSA-Yes it does not sound that enjoyable. Even with the John Hopkins studies with Psilocybin mushrooms people were monitored and stayed indoors which does not sound fun.
 
You guys just stopped reading at "mental health hospital," huh?

It wouldn't be a mental ward, it would be an environment specifically designed to complement the healing aspects of the drug experience (possibly a multitude of environments, to allow for preference and variety), monitored by someone who both understood the process of the trip through both study and personal experience and had the training to handle situations where things get south, and with whom the tripper has developed a close therapeutic relationship (basically a therapist/meditation teacher/professional trip sitter). It's nothing more than commonly repeated harm reduction maxims (set, setting, sitter) studied, codified, taken to their logical conclusion and combined into a long term, multi-faceted treatment modality.

it's been demonstrated that the drug experience alone is not enough to experience the full therapeutic benefit, it needs to take place inside the context of a larger system of treatment, guided by an experienced professional. For cultures which have utilized these substances for centuries, this has usually involved a period of meditation, reflection and cleansing in a remote setting, followed or punctuated by hallucinogenic experiences, monitored by a shaman or similar figure, for Western medicine, it's meant a long term therapy treatment punctuated by or culminating in a drug experience guided by a mental health professional. What I think we need is a merging of the two - the old and the new, the psycho-neurological and the spiritual, the scientific and the metaphysical.

Just handing out powerful psychoactive drugs at the corner store might sound like fun, but it isn't going to lead to any kind of long term therapeutic benefit for the individuals involved - quite likely the opposite. Whether they should be legalized for recreational use is another debate entirely, but the article is talking abut their healing potential, and some kind of structured, long term process is going to be required for that to be realized.
 
Dear Dr Jeffrey Lieberman of Columbia University in New York City,

Have you ever prescribed a drug to one of your patients for any use not specifically approved by the FDA? If so your use of these drugs for such non-approved indications has leapfrogged the research that would systematically determine the safety and benefits of usage of those drugs for those purposes. If you wish to continue publishing your scaremongering bloviations please first admit your blatant hypocrisy.

Sincerely,
Endotropic
 
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