Psych NooB

[Pvdtheking]

Hi guys i have been wodering about psychs for some time now.....been wanting to dabble but havent had the time/right circumstances to do so. The other night while on mdma i consumed a number of shrooms......proceeded to have visuals etc and damn well loved it, and want to again.

What im wondering is what options do i have instead of taking both mdma and mushies to get a similar effect?

I cannot take anything thats going to last 10+ hours like acid as i have a baby to think of.

Ive heard all these names banged about, 4-aco this, 4-meo that and havent a clue as to which would be best. I even read Dr Shunglins online book thingy on erowid but again isnt much help as i need advice from people who currently take these substances.

Any help would be much appreciated ty in advance

 

[swilow]

I would say that you'd wanna look into 2C-B- its intense, but more euphoric then mushrooms. 2C-D is also a great one if you just want a short trip- lasts about 2-4hrs, and is visual without being absurdly psychedelic.

2C-C is also something which is "mildish" and doesn't last too long. That said, mushrooms don't have an extremely long duration, so you might want to look into the analogues- 4-Aco-DMT etc.

Have a good read of the Psychedelic Drugs Index Great information in there....

 

[theotherside]

^^Yeah 2c-c is good first choice. I always turn my friends on to tripping with 2c-i....it is easy going, the visuals are beautiful in the 20-25mg range, it "makes" you happy while tripping which is why it ranks lower on most seasoned trippers' radars but it is an easy outing.

 

[vibrancy3]

lolol i remember 2c-i wicked 2c last time i done it my whole room was tripping colours and i was laughing my ass of as i ate a bananah

But i would just go for some good old NN-DMT (the business man's trip)

With 40mg of dmt and decent Pipe you can fit a nice acid trip into a tidy 10-20mins

(theres shit loads of easy A/B and STB tek's out there aswell!)

 

[Sega420]

if you have a child to look after, dont fuckin trip, you idiot.

save the psychedelia for a day when you send the kid to grandmas house for a day.

 

[theotherside]

if you have a child to look after, dont fuckin trip, you idiot.

save the psychedelia for a day when you send the kid to grandmas house for a day.

A bit harsh eh? I think they meant that they have certain times without the kid where they could trip.

 

[abstrakt]

if you have a child to look after, dont fuckin trip, you idiot.

save the psychedelia for a day when you send the kid to grandmas house for a day.

Don't be so judgemental. He gave no indication that he was going to be irresponsible.

 

[Retoxification]

i suggest 4 aco dmt, roughly 4-6 hours, not to intense(at low doses). wonderful visuals and a very nice feeling of peace. If not that then i suggest DMT if you can find it.

 

[Pvdtheking]

if you have a child to look after, dont fuckin trip, you idiot.

save the psychedelia for a day when you send the kid to grandmas house for a day.

imeant i have my daughter in the morning after a night out, so need something that has worn off before then

 

[MrTiHKAL]

DMT for the win.

 

[Pvdtheking]

ill have to give some of em a go, ty for tips :D

 

[butchek.k]

For a legal and somewhat different high I'd highly recommend "official" 6-APB caps (as in from one of the 05). I'd compare them to "trippy" E. As in wen u let ur guard dowm u get some nice peripharel haloucinations (like bottle3s dancing on widowsil in corner of ur vision or making out families or people out of trees but knowing they arent really there. ie. when u shake ur head n concentrate u wouldnt see owt trippy at all. but I'd highly recommend u let urself be taken over by the funk)

 

[butchek.k]

ill have to give some of em a go, ty for tips :D

Mate....... Noooooooooooooooooo! If ur an experienced tripper I'd still say no! best i find for general trippiness is "official" 6-apb (from one of the 05). [it's like one of the mitsubishi or mercedes E's from early 2000's (disclaimer: obviously just because the pills I consumed on these occasions bared the marks of popularly sold pills of the time, it by no means the were standard of the average for the time. However I do believe they were sourced from an extremely well known bouncer from the south (England) who worked from the dawn of the ecstacy sunrise, worked the club where the first girl ever died of E) and still to my knowledge works there) or AMT or tbf as u tried- shrooms. for ketamine-like headspace type trippiness I'd say 4-meo-pcp (somewhere inbetween ket n pcp but without reaching the 'hole' of either. or 2-ci tbf tho out all the reports I've read on T-ci none of them come close to the persistent, reoccuring hell I had whenever I was coming down off it. Fucking AWESOME trippy, stimmy, empothetic 8 hr high but sadly for me this was always followed (n could never be helped!- No other drug has ever done this to me consistantly) by very panicky, wide awake worry n panic for no reason. Even benzos n barbs never managed to stop this horrible comedown phase.....

 

[butchek.k]

Mate....... Noooooooooooooooooo! If ur an experienced tripper I'd still say no! best i find for general trippiness is "official" 6-apb (from one of the 05). [it's like one of the mitsubishi or mercedes E's from early 2000's (disclaimer: obviously just because the pills I consumed on these occasions bared the marks of popularly sold pills of the time, it by no means the were standard of the average for the time. However I do believe they were sourced from an extremely well known bouncer from the south (England) who worked from the dawn of the ecstacy sunrise, worked the club where the first girl ever died of E) and still to my knowledge works there) or AMT or tbf as u tried- shrooms. for ketamine-like headspace type trippiness I'd say 4-meo-pcp (somewhere inbetween ket n pcp but without reaching the 'hole' of either. or 2-ci tbf tho out all the reports I've read on T-ci none of them come close to the persistent, reoccuring hell I had whenever I was coming down off it. Fucking AWESOME trippy, stimmy, empothetic 8 hr high but sadly for me this was always followed (n could never be helped!- No other drug has ever done this to me consistantly) by very panicky, wide awake worry n panic for no reason. Even benzos n barbs never managed to stop this horrible comedown phase.....

 

[butchek.k]

want it worn off next day? I'd say 6-apb (although as I say it's not full on trippy- only trippy if u make like a marble and roll with it. however I'm gonna be honest here and I know 98% of the people reading this will think I'm fucking crackers but If I wanna trip but still feel ok the next day I'll down maybe 4 beers, a cup of strong coffee and 450+/- mg of diphenhydramine ( 4-5 nytol/ benedryl etc etc), wait for the tiredness to arrive then ignore it and look out my window at the neighbours bushes n jus watch little shapes run out n back in. As i say tho I dont think many people would share my agreement wit that one.....i prefer controlled delirium n morphing and pseudo-hallucinations (where u look at a tree eg n if u wanna see a a naked woman ur eyes make it out in the branches etc but ur eyes r never fooled re with true halloucinigens like acid or the 2c-family where u cant fucking help but see what ur mind wants u to n u hav no say in it). Anyway worst i ever get off nytol is lethargy but other than that by far the safest thing to hav if u hav responsibilities the next day (maybe bar coke but lets face it at the mo in the UK coke very much isnt worth it..... fourty squid for a gram of craetine? no thank mate i'll have a bottle of voddie, a few espressos n some mother fucking nytol! Toot Toot!!!!!

 

[butchek.k]

I would say that you'd wanna look into 2C-B- its intense, but more euphoric then mushrooms. 2C-D is also a great one if you just want a short trip- lasts about 2-4hrs, and is visual without being absurdly psychedelic.

2C-C is also something which is "mildish" and doesn't last too long. That said, mushrooms don't have an extremely long duration, so you might want to look into the analogues- 4-Aco-DMT etc.

Have a good read of the Psychedelic Drugs Index Great information in there....

Fucking wierd how different all the 2c's are ay? had 2-cb laced pills about 10 years ago and fuck me was it good, minimal comedown, no residual halloucinations, but a few weeks later tried 2-ci n within an hour gave me stim like I was on speed, empathy like mdma n full on strong shroom like visuals (albeit more tellytubby land-ish. Dont ask me to explain but youll understand if youve ever tried a few of the 2c's)but ultimately a horrible comedown every time. Not a comedown as such jus severe panic n anxiety. Not caused by any physical or mental factor at the front of my mind, jus guess it neurotransmitter tiredness.....

 

[greenmeanies]

^hey mate, maybe you should take a couple days and lay off the diphenhydramine...

you quintuple-posted to a thread that was already breaking the rules, and the OP already got his answers.

 

[Marauder]

If you have a baby why dabble with RCs at all? Acid is probably the safest drug you can consume if you know it's pure. It's not really 10 hours.. I mean, you'll trip for a long time but only the peak will have you incapable of getting things done should you have to (shouldn't drive though.)

Back to the topic. Perhaps 2C-I by itself (I love love love 2ci) is a euphoric psychedelic, ALMOST like mdma + shrooms but more like the euphoric/energetic part of a shroom trip with a pinch of mdma than a full blown roll. 2c-i with methylone might be good. methylone alone is fanfuckingtastic too.

2c-e is great but long lasting.

 

[Solipsis]

I am not sure what you are asking in this thread, "where do you start?"? Just visit the index, I have a link in my signature below - just now I rearranged some links for you, look for where it says "For psychedelic beginners start here" and check those particular threads first.

Check the 'Beginner psychedelics' and 'First time tripper' threads in particular, it is basically what you ask... and it has been answered a lot of times already. That should get you going nicely!

You should then start to get a better understanding of what is out there (though I feel we need to make a beginners FAQ, maybe I will do that), then use the index to check more specific topics on what is most suitable for you.

Considering the baby to look after, I suggest that you don't trip when you are the designated babysitter because you never know what difficult turns trips can take and I think you would have a hard time forgiving yourself if the baby needs you and you cannot handle things adequately.
When there is another designated babysitter you should then have the freedom to trip. Which one totally depends on how deep you want to go, if you want to try research chemicals or rather the more classic stuff.

To get info on that start doing your homework as said. We don't allow 'what should I take / buy / do' types of threads so I am going to have to close this. But you can post in all those other existing threads or if you cannot find what you are looking for by using the Index and the search engine, then create a new thread.

If there are any questions or unclarities you can PM me, I hate shutting stuff down if you need extra pointers where to go or what to do... but enough pointers have been given already.