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Psilocybin vs. 25C-NBOMe?

Just to clarify as others have pointed out already, 2C-C and 25C-NBOMe are NOT the same drug at all. That would be as erroneous as saying for example that DMT and 4-HO-DMT are the same drug - but even then those two share more similarities than 25C-NBOMe and 2C-C do.

I'm not sure if you were unaware of this and thought they were the same, or if you were just referring to it as 2C-C because it can also be called 2C-C-NBOMe - if it's the former, well you know better now, and if it's the latter, please avoid doing that, that only causes confusion since people might think you're referring to 2C-C, which is a very different drug.

I think that comparing 25C-NBOMe to LSD is also only going to lead to problems, they are very different, and while there may be many similarities between the two drugs still you can make these comparisons between almost ANY psychedelic and LSD. I'd avoid paying much heed to such comparisons if I were you, most of them are grasping on to very little in actual way of similar effects, just little stuff like both compounds being incredibly visual, or being clear-headed.

Check out The Big & Dandy Psilocybin Mushrooms Thread, there's a ton of great information in there and if you can't find the information you're looking for, just ask away and people can help you out. :)

As for how they'll compare, they're completely different ends of the spectrum. As you may or may not already be aware there are two main classes of psychedelics, Phenethylamines and Tryptamines. 25C-NBOMe is a phenethylamine, Psilocybin and Psilocin found in mushrooms are both tryptamines.

You may already be familiar with other Phenethylamines as many stimulants like MDMA, Amphetamine and Methamphetamine also share the Phenethylamine backbone, and there is definitely some cross-over between these and Phenethylamine psychedelics, with most people agreeing that these psychedelics are usually more stimulating, clear-headed and energetic. Tryptamines on the other hand can often be quite sedating, and often have a largely confusing head high that's commonly described as "mindfuck". They're also regarded as a lot more deep and "spiritual" when compared to Phenethylamines, which many people find to be quite shallow. That's largely a matter of personal opinion though, and in my personal experience both classes can be equally deep, they just excel in different areas.

That said though, 25C-NBOMe for me did match the typical shallow description given to phenethylamines, and while it has some potential for creativity and was great fun, it didn't strike me as having quite the potential for growth and positive life changes as many other psychedelics - YMMV though.

Anyway, being a tryptamine you should expect the effects of mushrooms to be vastly different from those of 25C-NBOMe. Expect mindfuck, anywhere from a little to quite a lot depending on your dosage and your individual reaction to them - it can lead to some problems like overwhelming anxiety and paranoia in the wrong setting, so I'd spend more time making sure you have somewhere suitable to trip when you try them than I would with phens.

Be aware too that mushrooms and other tryptamines are often less recreational when compared to phenethylamines, so if you were partying all night on 25C-NBOMe, don't expect it to be exactly the same with these - you can still have a great time on them, but be prepared to go deeper down the rabbit hole and don't just go looking for fun, or you might get your ass kicked! ;)

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Regarding the sclerotia dosage, I'd take 7.5g since that's what they're recommending to inexperienced users. Dosing too low with psychedelics can be tricky because redosing is very hard and extremely wasteful, due to the extreme acute tolerance they produce.

People have reported medium strength trips from the entire 15g so it's possible it's just a marketing ploy to get sales from people who think they're getting more value for their money. I've not seen any reports of anyone being overwhelmed by 15g. With sclerotia 3.25g is going to be too small, regardless of the strain. Take the 7.5g suggested, and if it's not enough you know to take more next time. :)
 
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