Meth Protecting Your Brain From the Harm Done By Meth Use

[theangryflower]

As a meth user, and one that does intend to get clean and has before, I have reached a point of what I would refer to as 'functional' use. When I say functional, I mean my bills are paid and I am still able to maintain a decently normal life. I know this is a gamble & have a game plan in place involving the use of medication. Just waiting on this. In the meantime, as I maintain, what are some supplements/nootropics/ nutritional options that you guys have found protect the brain and body from meth use? Currently, I am taking a multi-nootropic blend that has Vitamin B6, B12, Magnesium, Zinc, L-Theanine, Alpha-GPC, Lion's Mane, Rhodiola, Ginkgo Biloba, Ginseng, 5-HTP, and Black Pepper, I also take Propanolol, and a cortisol supplement that has ashwaganda in it. Additionally, I take Vitamin D, Vitamin B1, and L-Arginine.

Do you guys have any suggestions? Thank you

 

[chippermonk]

Get some sleep at night. I think that's number one. Do it in the morning and don't redose is my opinion.
Good luck

 

[Allylbenzene]

A good plan would be to repair your bodies core metabolic system, this post explains what it is and what it does. In brief, the metabolic system is responsible for making our protective hormones and cellular energy - mitochondria are the ones that do this. Mitochondria use glucose to make energy (aka ATP), and they convert cholesterol into our protective hormones (pregnanolone, progesterone etc).

​

If you drink coffee, this post gives great insights on using it in the most sustainable way. Coffee can be a great tool to repair the bodies metabolism!

In terms of proactively repairing things, supporting cessation and reducing withdrawals there is a supplement called Agmatine which is very well-suited for this. You're currently taking Arginine which is slowly turned into Agmatine, but using Agmatine directly can be more effective. It has properties which help to 'reset patterns' meaning it helps to reverse the effects of longterm meth use. Agmatine can help protect from meth-related neurtoxicity too.

A good source of calcium might be helpful also, do you use dairy? A good calcium source is calcium carbonate. This is preferable to the type found in supplements (usually calcium citrate).

 

[emkee_reinvented]

As a meth user, and one that does intend to get clean and has before, I have reached a point of what I would refer to as 'functional' use. When I say functional, I mean my bills are paid and I am still able to maintain a decently normal life. I know this is a gamble & have a game plan in place involving the use of medication. Just waiting on this.

So functional in, getting sleep having money til the end of the month.
HQ food, responsible for me goes with functional, like Money to buy a present.
Having some good causes, 'Save the children' example, get money monthly.
Still looking for one covering the Earth and the rest living on it.

In the meantime, as I maintain, what are some supplements/nootropics/ nutritional options that you guys have found protect the brain and body from meth use? Currently, I am taking a multi-nootropic blend that has Vitamin B6, B12, Magnesium, Zinc, L-Theanine, Alpha-GPC, Lion's Mane, Rhodiola, Ginkgo Biloba, Ginseng, 5-HTP, and Black Pepper, I also take Propanolol, and a cortisol supplement that has ashwaganda in it. Additionally, I take Vitamin D, Vitamin B1, and L-Arginine.

Do you guys have any suggestions? Thank you

Acetyl-l-Carnitine promotes and repairs a.o the Hippocampus,
from Cortisol damage. Erythrina Mulungu also,
but if they sell that as supplement s ? Maybe if your live in the US or South America.

Rhodiola, Ginkgo Biloba, Ginseng, 5-HTP, i would ditch. But that is personal chemistry. Rhodiola don t go nice with my ADHD med, Ginkgo gives me nose-bled s.
And Ginseng ime if it does something, its unnoticeable. But very overpriced .

Ashwaghanda, i had good results with when i was under Chronic stress.
Felt good mood, slept well, energy during the day and extremely horny.
And my pee smelled like Horse urine. Small price to pay.
The advise i read later, 4 day on 3 of is better. Or every other day.

Along with Cannabis and Kratom might have saved my life.
Cannabis is neuro-plasticity stimulating and a adaptogen,
and good in bringing the body back in Homeostasis.

For the magnesium, check which form, Mg-Hydro-Oxide, or big dose citrate.
Laxatives, in your situation Mg-bis-Glycinate or Taurate,
these seem most beneficial for you, they cross the BBB,
and deliver L-Glycine and or L-Taurine as well.

Black Pepper/ Piperidine, combine with Curcuma.
Prepared correct, cheaper then buying a Curcumine supplement.
Heat up some extra verge oil/ fat. Heat it shortly, and a quick cool.
Then its ready, add fresh Black pepper, which enhances bio availability.

Very good brain repair tool, Curcumine. And time. Hope its useful.
You might also check if your supplement s are cheap or quality.
Vitamins are imo the easy way. B12 in CyanoCobalamine form, unnamed.
Same for Folic Acid, the unnatural synthetic alternative, for Folate.
Which is the natural form, but human s get to little, as Glyfosate disturbs
plants enzymatic pathway that makes Folate. Hence the rise in split lip kid s.

If these forms are in it, imo its a cheap ass supplement.
Well done, restricting use keep it up. eMKee

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Btw how is your 2-nd brain doing, your intestinal digestion track.
The Brain/ Bowel connected by a 2 direction highway.
And the digestive system containg as many neron s as the brain has.

Its of big importance it s working optimal, to aid the recovering.
So what you eat and drink, or not. Of more importance,
i would think of my column. But yes, it is, homestasis again.

So Pro-biotic s if unnecessary no anti-biotic s please.
Artificial sweetener s, Round-Up/ GlyPhosate are also anti-biotic s.
Wheat, is artificial [not the ancient form but what we made],
your decision but will make you sicker.
The Glutein-Morphine, tiny trace, disastrous. Consumed by human s.

Auto-immune diseases are at least exacerbated, or caused by it.
Creates a false sense of hunger, btw in Cow milk there is Casein-Morphine.
Wonder if it does the same ?

So Pro-Biotic s not from Animal milk, Yoghurt and such. Pre-Biotic s.
Like beta glucanen from Oat or Inuline from Jerusalem potato s.
Human s, basically vegetarian s, but not grazer s.

A not 100 % Ketogeen diet recent caught my intention.
[100 % is medically used, but about torture]
Cut s out almost all Sugar s, you may have a tiny bit.
But live on Fat, Protein, veggies and a some not to sweet fruit.

 

[Joey]

CBD is good for protecting the neurotransmitters in your brain.

 

[Allylbenzene]

On that note, CBG (cannabigerol) is worth mentioning. It shares similar anti-cortisol/anti-adrenaline protective effects as agmatine (mentioned in my previous post). It's not like THC at all.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

​

If you drink coffee, this post gives great insights on using it in the most sustainable way. Coffee can be a great tool to repair the bodies metabolism!

Edit: about 1/2 is about Caffeine, not Coffee. So is the other half relevant ime not.
Coffee/ energy drink s even pure Caffeine pill s. Give me jitter s, tachycardia,
disturb s my sleep, shakes my hand s. Coffee also activates my Raynoud.
No other natural Caffeine does that [Green tea, Mate, Guarana, Cola or Matcha].

So that there is something different about Coffee agreed, but if the Liver protection.
outweigh s all the negative s ? Its a burned Nut, so a sure source for PAHs a.o..

Coffee ? swapped it for Matcha recent, which is a super-food equal in Caffeine.
But also contain a lot of l-Theanine, anti oxidants, and has no shitty side effect s
Caffeine delivered by burned Coffee Beans, never knew had lot of side effect.
Accepted em as normal but where caused by something in Coffee.

Bye bye Raynoud, one thing i direct noticed. After swapping. Coffee is devil s juice.

A good source of calcium might be helpful also, do you use dairy? A good calcium source is calcium carbonate. This is preferable to the type found in supplements (usually calcium citrate).

Dairy is for baby Cow s, human baby s drink Momma s milk.
Except bottle food fed, those get junk with de- and re-hydrated Cow milk.
Poor little ones, born the wrong place wrong time , as bottle feed was.
Meant as emergency last choice option even a Min was preferred.
No grown drink s mama milk, the calcium story is just a selling point.
Totally ridiculous to use as excuse for drinking poison imo.

Calcium is in abundance in lots of things, that are also Healthy.
And btw if you insist on being a baby Cow, the raw form is best.
Good luck finding it. I ain t no saint i love Cheese.
Despite Milk Protein intolerance. It don t like me
And meat well for health. If meat s your thing.

Go for the good stuff, so leave that ass, muscles alone.
Head straight for the: Marrow,
there is a soup 'Bottle Brie' [?] Irish/ Scottish/ Welsh.
It supposed to be delicious healthy and nutritious.

Like most part we throw away are. Kidney s, Liver and skin.
[talking BIO HQ meat not cheap shit]
We eat what animal s leave for the maggot s,
does that mean s human s are maggot s

I only eat simple Bio meat or Fish now n then, bi weekly at most.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_marrow_(food)

eMKee

 

[red22]

I've recently become interested in the use of MAOIs to potentiate substances since, contrary to popular belief, there is a good bit of leeway between safe dosage and toxic dosage.[1] As you may know, DMT is immediately metabolized by our bodies, but MAOIs delay this—in the stomach it's truly immediate; in the brain it happens after a few minutes, which is why smoked DMT is so short. Ayahuasca (basically a brew containing both DMT and an herbal MAOI) lasts for hours… MAOIs both extend the duration and lower the dose threshold of other substances, in the case of DMT the effect is extreme. The combination of stimulants with MAOIs is relatively popular in r/MAOIs and I've come across numerous anecdotes of people using the combination.[2] MAOI expert, Ken Gillman, says of the safety of this combo, "the dose makes the poison";[3] indeed, the combo has been used clinically.

So, I'm very interested to see if MAOIs can be used as a "cheat code" for a better effect—getting a stronger and lengthier effect from a lower dose while only suffering the dopamine depletion of that lower dose. To put it another way, getting a heavy effect from meth, but only getting a low-end rebound because the MAOI carried most of the weight.

Here is an example that heads in the direction of what I'm talking about: euphoria by combining an MAOI with a relatively unimpressive substance:

Yeah i would say it is still risky using RIMA with kanna. But there are studies showing RIMA+SSRI being super therapeutic for OCD/anxiety/depression and stuff.[[4]] I was on bifemelane daily and would use kanna daily as well with it. Huge difference when combined it was crazy sometimes. But very awesome combo.[5]

Of course, you may find that simply using this particular combo is sufficient for what you're looking, leaving meth behind. That has positive implications: you're no longer using an illegal substance with substantial toxicity and compulsion. Kanna is an inexpensive herb, gaining popularity and is sold as fine extracts. Same with harmine and harmaline, the ayahuasca MAOIs; Syrian rue enables them to be cheap and widely avalable. Although in this particular anecdote the MAOI, bifemelane was used, kanna-harmala has also gotten positive feedback.[6]

And what's so fascinating is MAOIs enable you to use an amphetamine analog that only works with MAOIs. This is a natural brain chemical that is sold as a supplement in the U.S. (because it doesn't work well w/o an MAOI)! …Beta-phenethylamine. The word, "amphetamine", is a contraction of "alpha-methyl-phenethylamine", so the connection between the two is apparent. Another Bluelighter conveyed success from the combo:

"I mean, it just seems too good to be true, it brings such a powerful euphoria and stimulation." (mitragyna, 2009-01-14, post-6740359)

This epitomizes the point that I'm trying to make and it shows just how powerful MAOIs are. Shrooms, which contain 4-PO-DMT, are, of course, illegal, but ayahuasca herbs are a gray area (i.e., they're commonly mail ordered) and some people use them as an alternative to shrooms. Who would have thought that one could have the same situation with meth?


1. https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/most-unique-drug-combo-you-ever-did.948196/post-16296742

2. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28919078

3. 18. CNS ‘Stimulants’ and MAOIs Part 2. Psychotropical Research. Ken Gillman, MD, 2022, 2023

4. I explore this in this post. Search for the word taboo.

5. Nitroso-etherealist, 2022-05-07, reddit.com/r/Kanna

6. https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/kanna-flips.941343/post-16288295

 

[emkee_reinvented]

@red22 when Selegiline was quite unknown, a few studies done.
That showed a neuro-protective effect, when it was taken at a dose.
Which inhibit s only MAO-b, against MDMA neurotoxicity.

Is that still relevant or debunked. Seeing the resemblance of MDMA,
and Meth-Amphetamine. If the results still stand, would it be neuro-protective.
When swapping X for Chrystal Meth, or is that in-correct.
And could it work healing the Amphetamine damage ?

My knowledge on MAOi is minimal, and no experience.
At a high dose Selegilline. It loses its selectivity for -B.
And can then give dangerous interaction s. Was the general consensus.

Not that i could get it then, but seemed a sort of Panacea.
Wonder how benefiting or not it would work on ex MDMA,
or Meth/ Amphetamine abuser s.

Its obvious there is a hole in me and filling it help s.
Filling with just Selegilline, a benign substance,
doing what know Amphetamine does for me and the OP.
Would it help ? I d willingly swap my dextro-Amphetamine. If.

To bad it ain t work like that, dr s make thing s complicated.
or cost s too much work to accomplish, its not worth it.
[its prescription only in NL/ and Shrooms illegal,
but they didn t know bout the Truffle].

 

[theangryflower]

Get some sleep at night. I think that's number one. Do it in the morning and don't redose is my opinion.
Good luck

I definitely get lots of sleep. That is never a problem. Even when I 'try' to stay up, I end up crashing every night. Probably due to having ADHD. Possibly self-medicating. With that said, I am pretty good at just doing small bumps throughout the day and putting it down and calling it a night. Need to get better though.

 

[theangryflower]

I've recently become interested in the use of MAOIs to potentiate substances since, contrary to popular belief, there is a good bit of leeway between safe dosage and toxic dosage.[1] As you may know, DMT is immediately metabolized by our bodies, but MAOIs delay this—in the stomach it's truly immediate; in the brain it happens after a few minutes, which is why smoked DMT is so short. Ayahuasca (basically a brew containing both DMT and an herbal MAOI) lasts for hours… MAOIs both extend the duration and lower the dose threshold of other substances, in the case of DMT the effect is extreme. The combination of stimulants with MAOIs is relatively popular in r/MAOIs and I've come across numerous anecdotes of people using the combination.[2] MAOI expert, Ken Gillman, says of the safety of this combo, "the dose makes the poison";[3] indeed, the combo has been used clinically.

So, I'm very interested to see if MAOIs can be used as a "cheat code" for a better effect—getting a stronger and lengthier effect from a lower dose while only suffering the dopamine depletion of that lower dose. To put it another way, getting a heavy effect from meth, but only getting a low-end rebound because the MAOI carried most of the weight.

Here is an example that heads in the direction of what I'm talking about: euphoria by combining an MAOI with a relatively unimpressive substance:

Yeah i would say it is still risky using RIMA with kanna. But there are studies showing RIMA+SSRI being super therapeutic for OCD/anxiety/depression and stuff.[[4]] I was on bifemelane daily and would use kanna daily as well with it. Huge difference when combined it was crazy sometimes. But very awesome combo.[5]

Of course, you may find that simply using this particular combo is sufficient for what you're looking, leaving meth behind. That has positive implications: you're no longer using an illegal substance with substantial toxicity and compulsion. Kanna is an inexpensive herb, gaining popularity and is sold as fine extracts. Same with harmine and harmaline, the ayahuasca MAOIs; Syrian rue enables them to be cheap and widely avalable. Although in this particular anecdote the MAOI, bifemelane was used, kanna-harmala has also gotten positive feedback.[6]

And what's so fascinating is MAOIs enable you to use an amphetamine analog that only works with MAOIs. This is a natural brain chemical that is sold as a supplement in the U.S. (because it doesn't work well w/o an MAOI)! …Beta-phenethylamine. The word, "amphetamine", is a contraction of "alpha-methyl-phenethylamine", so the connection between the two is apparent. Another Bluelighter conveyed success from the combo:

"I mean, it just seems too good to be true, it brings such a powerful euphoria and stimulation." (mitragyna, 2009-01-14, post-6740359)

This epitomizes the point that I'm trying to make and it shows just how powerful MAOIs are. Shrooms, which contain 4-PO-DMT, are, of course, illegal, but ayahuasca herbs are a gray area (i.e., they're commonly mail ordered) and some people use them as an alternative to shrooms. Who would have thought that one could have the same situation with meth?


1. https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/most-unique-drug-combo-you-ever-did.948196/post-16296742

2. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28919078

3. 18. CNS ‘Stimulants’ and MAOIs Part 2. Psychotropical Research. Ken Gillman, MD, 2022, 2023

4. I explore this in this post. Search for the word taboo.

5. Nitroso-etherealist, 2022-05-07, reddit.com/r/Kanna

6. https://www.bluelight.org/community/threads/kanna-flips.941343/post-16288295

In lamens terms, can you tell me what you are suggesting I take? I know kanna is mentioned ----and I see MEO-DMT----but I am fairly certain if I took it or LSD that I would end up in the mental hospital, because I have been known to take a microdose amount of mushrooms on just the right day and trip out into thought loops, which result in me coming back to and screaming "Oh F*CK I'M DEAD!!!!" With that said, I still intend to microdose, despite those issues, but I think a more robust psychadelic might do me in.

 

[theangryflower]

Btw how is your 2-nd brain doing, your intestinal digestion track.
The Brain/ Bowel connected by a 2 direction highway.
And the digestive system containg as many neron s as the brain has.

Its of big importance it s working optimal, to aid the recovering.
So what you eat and drink, or not. Of more importance,
i would think of my column. But yes, it is, homestasis again.

So Pro-biotic s if unnecessary no anti-biotic s please.
Artificial sweetener s, Round-Up/ GlyPhosate are also anti-biotic s.
Wheat, is artificial [not the ancient form but what we made],
your decision but will make you sicker.
The Glutein-Morphine, tiny trace, disastrous. Consumed by human s.

Auto-immune diseases are at least exacerbated, or caused by it.
Creates a false sense of hunger, btw in Cow milk there is Casein-Morphine.
Wonder if it does the same ?

So Pro-Biotic s not from Animal milk, Yoghurt and such. Pre-Biotic s.
Like beta glucanen from Oat or Inuline from Jerusalem potato s.
Human s, basically vegetarian s, but not grazer s.

A not 100 % Ketogeen diet recent caught my intention.
[100 % is medically used, but about torture]
Cut s out almost all Sugar s, you may have a tiny bit.
But live on Fat, Protein, veggies and a some not to sweet fruit.

Honestly, I can do better. Going to start a whole foods (mainly) based diet for awhile, like the Mediterranean to try to improve my brain health.

 

[theangryflower]

A good plan would be to repair your bodies core metabolic system, this post explains what it is and what it does. In brief, the metabolic system is responsible for making our protective hormones and cellular energy - mitochondria are the ones that do this. Mitochondria use glucose to make energy (aka ATP), and they convert cholesterol into our protective hormones (pregnanolone, progesterone etc).

​

If you drink coffee, this post gives great insights on using it in the most sustainable way. Coffee can be a great tool to repair the bodies metabolism!

In terms of proactively repairing things, supporting cessation and reducing withdrawals there is a supplement called Agmatine which is very well-suited for this. You're currently taking Arginine which is slowly turned into Agmatine, but using Agmatine directly can be more effective. It has properties which help to 'reset patterns' meaning it helps to reverse the effects of longterm meth use. Agmatine can help protect from meth-related neurtoxicity too.

A good source of calcium might be helpful also, do you use dairy? A good calcium source is calcium carbonate. This is preferable to the type found in supplements (usually calcium citrate).

I am running to the internet now to get Agmatine. I looked it up and it also is good for cardiovascular health which is always a concern for someone who uses stimulants.

 

[red22]

but I am fairly certain if I took it or LSD that I would end up in the mental hospital, because I have been known to take a microdose amount of mushrooms on just the right day and trip out into thought loops,

I'm pretty sensitive to psychedelics, myself, and MAOIs, especially harmalas, amplify their effects. I wasn't recommending psychedelics though; I just mentioned them as part of my attempt at giving you an idea of what MAOIs do.

I was saying, see if meth with an MAOI gives you a satisfying effect at only low doses. Indeed it's important to stick to low doses with that combo because the safe dosage range may be substantially narrowed (e.g., Death after Combined Dexamphetamine and Phenelzine).

Harmine and harmaline are the easiest MAOIs to get. They're predominant chemicals in Peganum harmala and Banisteriopsis caapi (that one is expensive, but P. harmala is cheap). But if you're so sensitive to psychedelics and you're also microdosing, they might be a bad option because they're…psychedelic. More info: The myth that ayahuasca has to contain DMT

Moclobemide is the second-most-popular among drug users, but that one doesn't feel right to me (Stop using moclobemide as an MAOI).

Clorgiline (salt, 17780-75-5, free base, 17780-72-2) seems like a viable option. It's frequently used in studies, but it's not a prescription, so mail ordering it should be legal, and there are a ton of suppliers, so you should be able to find a good price. But I can't say anything more about that because of the sourcing rule.

You can also try to score a prescription from a doctor. There are only four used in the U.S.: tranylcypromine, phenelzine, isocarboxazid, and selegiline. Tranylcypromine is the best one—derived from amphetamine, even.* It's very weak compared to meth, though.

Any MAOI that is labeled as "irreversible" requires abstinence from certain foods—even for days to weeks after the last dose (same goes for potentially contraindicated drugs, like meth—and many antidepressants and MDMA, to give more examples, i.e., if you try low dose meth with clorgiline on just a single day, you will be forced to to not go above low doses for days–weeks for safety). Most people follow an MAOI-safe diet anyway, though. See this post of mine for more info.

Selegiline

Someone actually just stated that he's prescribed Emsam and Desoxyn:

"I'm on Desoxyn and Emsam 12mg. I would just advise to start with the lowest dose and monitor your bp."

xxthatsnotmexx, 2025-08-13, reddit.com/r/MAOIs


*"Tranylcypromine was originally developed as an analog of amphetamine.[4][20]"

4. Williams DA (2007). "Antidepressants". In Foye WO, Lemke TL, Williams DA (eds.). Foye's Principles of Medicinal Chemistry. Hagerstwon, USA: Lippincott Williams & Wilkins. pp. 590–1. ISBN 978-0-7817-6879-5.

20. Ulrich S, Ricken R, Adli M (August 2017). "Tranylcypromine in mind (Part I): Review of pharmacology". European Neuropsychopharmacology. 27 (8): 697–713. doi:10.1016/j.euroneuro.2017.05.007. PMID 28655495. S2CID 4913721

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tranylcypromine


Tranylcypromine is essentially a cyclized amphetamine without the covalent bond.

Blackburn, T., Wasley, J. 6.03 Affective Disorders: Depression and Bipolar Disorders (6.03.5.2.1 Monoamine oxidase, p. 67) [Comprehensive Medicinal Chemistry II, vol. 6. Taylor, J. B., Triggle, D. J. 2006. Elsevier. ISBN 9780080445137]

 

[Allylbenzene]

Possibly self-medicating. With that said, I am pretty good at just doing small bumps throughout the day and putting it down and calling it a night.

I'd agree on the self-medication bit. You could interpret drug use as self-medication for unacknowledged health imbalances. The reason I bought up metabolism is because it's at the core of everything. A strong metabolic "engine" means plenty of dopamine and energy. The most popular drugs for a sluggish metabolism are dopamine-based stimulants (eg meth, speed, cocaine) but caffeine is the most popular (caffeine is also a metabolic stimulant, explained here). Coffee can repair the bodies metabolic function but it needs to be used properly instead of just "a black coffee first thing in the morning". From what you've said, mini-coffee shots could really help as you taper your meth doses. Combined with Agmatine's potential things should go fairly smoothly.

 

[theangryflower]

I'd agree on the self-medication bit. You could interpret drug use as self-medication for unacknowledged health imbalances. The reason I bought up metabolism is because it's at the core of everything. A strong metabolic "engine" means plenty of dopamine and energy. The most popular drugs for a sluggish metabolism are dopamine-based stimulants (eg meth, speed, cocaine) but caffeine is the most popular (caffeine is also a metabolic stimulant, explained here). Coffee can repair the bodies metabolic function but it needs to be used properly instead of just "a black coffee first thing in the morning". From what you've said, mini-coffee shots could really help as you taper your meth doses. Combined with Agmatine's potential things should go fairly smoothly.

Absolutely self-medicating. I am supposed to start easing into Wellbutrin SR & Naltrexone---which I feel will very likely help with stopping as well. The SR will be 100 at first, then they are working up to 400 and 50 mg of Nal at first working to 100. I have read studies that say it will help me to cut back, working my way to nothing (as far as meth & alcohol go.) I went ahead and started my journey of Whole Foods eatinng yesterday, stocking up on lots of fruits, veggies and lean meats. I am ready to feel good again----not whatever this is, as meth tends to rob my happiness bank after so long, even in small doses.

The agmatine suggestion comes at a much needed time, as I have been taking the L-Arginine, and propanalol ---and the coffe shots is a great suggestion!

 

[Allylbenzene]

Sounds good! Yes, low dose coffee to ease into things. Boosting your metabolic system will naturally create an effect similar to amphetamines.

 

[red22]

Isn't ephedrine, available from the pharmacy over the counter with ID, a better suggestion? Ephedrine can actually be used to make meth…

 

[OneWhoCares1789]

So functional in, getting sleep having money til the end of the month.
HQ food, responsible for me goes with functional, like Money to buy a present.
Having some good causes, 'Save the children' example, get money monthly.
Still looking for one covering the Earth and the rest living on it.

Acetyl-l-Carnitine promotes and repairs a.o the Hippocampus,
from Cortisol damage. Erythrina Mulungu also,
but if they sell that as supplement s ? Maybe if your live in the US or South America.

Rhodiola, Ginkgo Biloba, Ginseng, 5-HTP, i would ditch. But that is personal chemistry. Rhodiola don t go nice with my ADHD med, Ginkgo gives me nose-bled s.
And Ginseng ime if it does something, its unnoticeable. But very overpriced .

Ashwaghanda, i had good results with when i was under Chronic stress.
Felt good mood, slept well, energy during the day and extremely horny.
And my pee smelled like Horse urine. Small price to pay.
The advise i read later, 4 day on 3 of is better. Or every other day.

Along with Cannabis and Kratom might have saved my life.
Cannabis is neuro-plasticity stimulating and a adaptogen,
and good in bringing the body back in Homeostasis.

For the magnesium, check which form, Mg-Hydro-Oxide, or big dose citrate.
Laxatives, in your situation Mg-bis-Glycinate or Taurate,
these seem most beneficial for you, they cross the BBB,
and deliver L-Glycine and or L-Taurine as well.

Black Pepper/ Piperidine, combine with Curcuma.
Prepared correct, cheaper then buying a Curcumine supplement.
Heat up some extra verge oil/ fat. Heat it shortly, and a quick cool.
Then its ready, add fresh Black pepper, which enhances bio availability.

Very good brain repair tool, Curcumine. And time. Hope its useful.
You might also check if your supplement s are cheap or quality.
Vitamins are imo the easy way. B12 in CyanoCobalamine form, unnamed.
Same for Folic Acid, the unnatural synthetic alternative, for Folate.
Which is the natural form, but human s get to little, as Glyfosate disturbs
plants enzymatic pathway that makes Folate. Hence the rise in split lip kid s.

If these forms are in it, imo its a cheap ass supplement.
Well done, restricting use keep it up. eMKee

Seriously a gem of a response! Taking many notes from this! Thank you

I was coming to redoing that ginkgo and 5-htp raised my BP higher and I becamr
Light headed way more often.