Lady Codone
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Just thought I'd post a little sumthin' sumthin' on my first experience with Propylhexedrine, aka the mighty Benzedrex inhaler.
First off just let me say that I spent the entire preceeding night researching this chemical--the pros and cons, dangers, methods of ingestion, trip reports, and anything else I could find. I'm a very cautious person when it comes to trying new drugs as I don't wanna stroke out and DIE or have some other sort of bad trip, so I crawled the web for upwards of 5 hours in search of any info I could find on this substance, and here's what I found:
Erowid's reports were almost universally positive, with only one person experiencing a health problem/hospitalization from Benzedrex (albeit only hours after taking 200mg. or so of pure MDMA, poor bastard), and the rest were pretty positive or at least neutral.
Google led me to a number of other drug forums where people shared their experiences and knowledge on Benzedrex, many of which were extremely mixed. Some loved it, some hated it, some were too scared to try it, and some thought it was just ok. Overall, there were no real health crises encountered by most people who used this drug, which was really what I was after. The only people I saw that had died were those who injected it. There was even one man who claimed to have used propylhexedrine for 30 years! I also spent hours on Bluelight, happily perusing the site's archives on the subject.
First, a little background info on myself and my health history:
I'm 24 years old, Caucasian female, 5'2 and weigh between 125-135 pounds. I have no experience with prescription or street stimulants--all the uppers I've done include ephedra, pseudoephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, and coca tea. I have no known heart conditions and take only one prescription medication--Prozac 20mg. once a day. I suffer from chronic fatigue of undetermined origin and have since the age of 13. My mental health profile isn't so perfect, as I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome (high-functioning Autism), depression, and mild OCD-like symptoms that worsen with anxiety. I drink poppy pod tea on a regular basis but am currently taking a 4-day break.
***Now for the good parts!***
Today I decided to pick up one of these inhalers and give it a (cautious) shot. I headed to Walgreen's thinking they wouldn't have Benzedrex, as I've never seen it before except online and many people have a hard time finding it. I scanned the aisles for about 3 minutes until, BAM!, I found it on the very bottom shelf, surrounded by other inhalers containing levo"metamfetamine" lol. I begrudgingly paid the $6.75 for one inhaler, picked up some Claritin D for my upcoming poppy tea adventures, and headed out.
Once home, I attempted to break open the inhaler with my bare hands like some sort of musclebound crackhead, with absolutely no luck. Finally, I took a hammer to it on the kitchen floor and extracted the small cotton rod inside. I waved it around in a vain attempt to evaporate off some of the solvents/oils, then cut it into 4 pieces and placed it into a cup with the juice of 3 lemon slices. I swished it around and let it soak for about an hour while watching The Real World (I know, right?), then squeezed the cotton dry and strained it into another cup. The smell was actually VERY pleasant, all lemony fresh with lavender overtones and a hint of menthol. Niiiiiice...
After reading horror stories about the taste, I made sure to have plenty of taste-masking substances around, including pomegranate green tea and a box of Junior Mints. I ate a full meal and became very tired. I decided to stick my tongue in to see what the taste was like and did so. Not bad! I took maybe one more tiny sip before getting REALLY tired and crashing out for 3 hours. It's my first full day without poppy pod tea in about a month, which always makes me extremely tired.
Upon waking, I decided to just go all in (kinda). I ate some more and started sipping the fragrant liquid at the rate of one tiny sip every 30 minutes. After one sip I started to feel SOMETHING about 10 minutes in, mainly a vision change and fidgety hands. I put on some music and started surfing the web.
Another sip and the effects became more apparent--mild euphoria, more fidgety-ness, increased energy, and a sense of general well-being and purpose. Another sip 30 or so minutes later brings me to where I am now, typing this report at an extremely increased rate of speed. The veins in my hands are somewhat raised and my blood flow feels improved, like after a nice cup of ginger root tea. I'm kinda nervous to take my pulse or think about my blood pressure, so I decide against it. But it is in the back of my mind. My vision is strangely altered, with mild tracers and some dimness, but it's not too bad. I have had no headaches yet and am generally enjoying the increased energy and clarity I'm experiencing. Music sounds slightly better, my mood is improved, and I have the motivation to do more mental work (like thinking, typing this report, reading, etc.) than usual, but abstain from any physical exertion in order to avoid overloading my heart. My appetite is not as reduced as it would be on something like ephedra, but I have no real desire to eat. I have no indigestion or heartburt from the lavender/menthol, either, which I'm very grateful for, as I've heard it can be anywhere from mildly annoying to extremely nauseating. I feel alert, energized, and focused but not jittery or moody like with large doses of caffeine.
This drug would be good for studying, sitting through a boring class, or enduring a long day at the office...anything that requires focus and lacks lightheartedness or fun. I can see it being used for ADD in some cases, too, though I don't really believe children should use stimulants for any reason. The energy is more mental than physical, as my veins feel more open and relaxed (despite it being a vasoCONSTRICTOR) while my mind craves action. Though I've never tried prescription or black market stimulants, this drug definitely embodies all the positives I'd expect from them, and maybe a little more. While methylphenidate and amphetamine can make some people jittery and depressed, propylhexedrine does none of this, at least not for me. I feel like the perfect student, the most enthusiastic employee, the most efficient thinker. In fact, I think I'll submit this trip report to Erowid and see if they accept it, as there aren't many trip reports on Benzedrex there. They published one of my other reports on hydrocodone and Asperger's Syndrome, so it's worth a shot.
Being a former ephedra user (addict?) for 2+ years in my teens/early 20s and wanting to try something like Adderall or Ritalin for awhile, I think propylhexedrine is pretty nice overall. I really abused those Mini-Thins, taking 4-5 at a time and then dancing my little heart out everyday, luckily with no serious health effects that I know of. I have chased that feeling constantly since quitting in 2004 when ephedra was yanked from the market, as I deal with chronic fatigue on a daily basis and have since I was about 13. I'm 24 now and opiates are my drug of choice, but I still have an affinity for things that speed me up.
Having never tried Adderall, Ritalin, or any other stimulant besides yerba mate, caffeine, and coca tea, I can't really compare Benzedrex to anything, but I can say that it's an interesting little OTC drug. I long to have the energy, stamina, and enthusiasm that "normal" people have, and this chemical has provided me with a nice temporary escape from my constant lethargy. Being that I'm experiencing these significant effects from such a minute dose, I'm very glad I didn't take the whole dose and spaced out my dosing over a long period. And why not be cautious? There's nothing to lose by taking it slow and allowing your body to adjust to a new substance and, honestly, I'm having a great time. This drug definitely warrants further investigation
Well, I guess that about covers it as far as my experience goes. In the spirit of harm reduction (and because I'm still quite tweaked), here are some things you can do to reduce the risks associated with taking Benzedrex:
*Benzedrex inhalers contain a mixture of propylhexedrine, menthol and lavender oil. This solution is said to have a very basic ph, or as one person put it, "the ph of bleach". To counteract this and aid with digestion, I added lemon juice and took 500mg. of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) with my dose. This is by no means scientific and was more of a mental reassurance for me than anything. Such a strong solution CAN have bad effects on the digestive system though, so having some sort of stomach-calming agent on hand, like ginger tea or an antacid, is not a bad idea.
*While some people consume the cotton that contains the drug, doing so can cause all sorts of problems including severe nausea, vomiting, and intestinal blockage. This is not advised. Instead, the goodies can be extracted or dissolved in hot water, lemon juice, soda, coffee, or some other acidic liquid. You can soak it overnight, for 24 hours, or for no less than 1 hour if you're pressed for time. Make sure to squeeze the cotton periodically to ring out more of the good stuff. This method works, and I totally vouch for it. Why risk your health any more than you have to?
*Because Benzedrex can raise blood pressure and pulse, it's a good idea to have some sort of downer on hand, especially if it's your first time. Benzos like Xanax and Valium are best, but Valerian root or other herbal depressants are probably effective and are better than nothing.
*Don't use Benzedrex with other stimulants or vasoconstrictors like nicotine, amphetamine, or even caffeine, as this adds to the dangers of the drug. If you're worried about increased blood pressure, having some bp meds like atenolol around doesn't hurt. To avoid increased strain on the cardiovascular system, avoid exercise or strenuous activity while on Benzedrex, and stay hydrated at all costs. THAT MEANS DRINKING WATER, not something like pop or tea, which can further dehydrate you.
*Benzedrex can cause fluctuations in blood sugar/glucose levels, so eating or drinking something sweet during your high can decrease the harshness of the post-Benzedrex "crash", which is really like a huge sugar crash in many respects. Taking this drug on a full stomach also lessens the crash and helps prevent nausea for most people.
*If you have high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, hyperthyroidism, narrow-angle glaucoma or any serious health condition, avoid taking Benzedrex in a manner inconsistent with the labeling. Doing so could kill you and is not worth it.
*Those with a low or nonexistent tolerance for stimulants should start off with a very small dose to avoid a bad experience. One inhaler contains roughly 250mg. of the active ingredient, but this could be much too high a dose for a first-timer despite a lot of the advice I've seen on dosing. Use the extraction method I described, take tiny sips periodically, and wait to see how it affects you and you should be fine.
*Keep your use of Benzedrex to no more than 2-4 times a month to avoid psychological addiction and the negative health effects of stimulants.
...and that's all I can think of for the time being. If anyone can think of any other precautions regarding this drug, please add them to this thread. Smart drug users will thank you.
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First off just let me say that I spent the entire preceeding night researching this chemical--the pros and cons, dangers, methods of ingestion, trip reports, and anything else I could find. I'm a very cautious person when it comes to trying new drugs as I don't wanna stroke out and DIE or have some other sort of bad trip, so I crawled the web for upwards of 5 hours in search of any info I could find on this substance, and here's what I found:
Erowid's reports were almost universally positive, with only one person experiencing a health problem/hospitalization from Benzedrex (albeit only hours after taking 200mg. or so of pure MDMA, poor bastard), and the rest were pretty positive or at least neutral.
Google led me to a number of other drug forums where people shared their experiences and knowledge on Benzedrex, many of which were extremely mixed. Some loved it, some hated it, some were too scared to try it, and some thought it was just ok. Overall, there were no real health crises encountered by most people who used this drug, which was really what I was after. The only people I saw that had died were those who injected it. There was even one man who claimed to have used propylhexedrine for 30 years! I also spent hours on Bluelight, happily perusing the site's archives on the subject.
First, a little background info on myself and my health history:
I'm 24 years old, Caucasian female, 5'2 and weigh between 125-135 pounds. I have no experience with prescription or street stimulants--all the uppers I've done include ephedra, pseudoephedrine, caffeine, yohimbe, and coca tea. I have no known heart conditions and take only one prescription medication--Prozac 20mg. once a day. I suffer from chronic fatigue of undetermined origin and have since the age of 13. My mental health profile isn't so perfect, as I suffer from Asperger's Syndrome (high-functioning Autism), depression, and mild OCD-like symptoms that worsen with anxiety. I drink poppy pod tea on a regular basis but am currently taking a 4-day break.
***Now for the good parts!***
Today I decided to pick up one of these inhalers and give it a (cautious) shot. I headed to Walgreen's thinking they wouldn't have Benzedrex, as I've never seen it before except online and many people have a hard time finding it. I scanned the aisles for about 3 minutes until, BAM!, I found it on the very bottom shelf, surrounded by other inhalers containing levo"metamfetamine" lol. I begrudgingly paid the $6.75 for one inhaler, picked up some Claritin D for my upcoming poppy tea adventures, and headed out.
Once home, I attempted to break open the inhaler with my bare hands like some sort of musclebound crackhead, with absolutely no luck. Finally, I took a hammer to it on the kitchen floor and extracted the small cotton rod inside. I waved it around in a vain attempt to evaporate off some of the solvents/oils, then cut it into 4 pieces and placed it into a cup with the juice of 3 lemon slices. I swished it around and let it soak for about an hour while watching The Real World (I know, right?), then squeezed the cotton dry and strained it into another cup. The smell was actually VERY pleasant, all lemony fresh with lavender overtones and a hint of menthol. Niiiiiice...
After reading horror stories about the taste, I made sure to have plenty of taste-masking substances around, including pomegranate green tea and a box of Junior Mints. I ate a full meal and became very tired. I decided to stick my tongue in to see what the taste was like and did so. Not bad! I took maybe one more tiny sip before getting REALLY tired and crashing out for 3 hours. It's my first full day without poppy pod tea in about a month, which always makes me extremely tired.
Upon waking, I decided to just go all in (kinda). I ate some more and started sipping the fragrant liquid at the rate of one tiny sip every 30 minutes. After one sip I started to feel SOMETHING about 10 minutes in, mainly a vision change and fidgety hands. I put on some music and started surfing the web.
Another sip and the effects became more apparent--mild euphoria, more fidgety-ness, increased energy, and a sense of general well-being and purpose. Another sip 30 or so minutes later brings me to where I am now, typing this report at an extremely increased rate of speed. The veins in my hands are somewhat raised and my blood flow feels improved, like after a nice cup of ginger root tea. I'm kinda nervous to take my pulse or think about my blood pressure, so I decide against it. But it is in the back of my mind. My vision is strangely altered, with mild tracers and some dimness, but it's not too bad. I have had no headaches yet and am generally enjoying the increased energy and clarity I'm experiencing. Music sounds slightly better, my mood is improved, and I have the motivation to do more mental work (like thinking, typing this report, reading, etc.) than usual, but abstain from any physical exertion in order to avoid overloading my heart. My appetite is not as reduced as it would be on something like ephedra, but I have no real desire to eat. I have no indigestion or heartburt from the lavender/menthol, either, which I'm very grateful for, as I've heard it can be anywhere from mildly annoying to extremely nauseating. I feel alert, energized, and focused but not jittery or moody like with large doses of caffeine.
This drug would be good for studying, sitting through a boring class, or enduring a long day at the office...anything that requires focus and lacks lightheartedness or fun. I can see it being used for ADD in some cases, too, though I don't really believe children should use stimulants for any reason. The energy is more mental than physical, as my veins feel more open and relaxed (despite it being a vasoCONSTRICTOR) while my mind craves action. Though I've never tried prescription or black market stimulants, this drug definitely embodies all the positives I'd expect from them, and maybe a little more. While methylphenidate and amphetamine can make some people jittery and depressed, propylhexedrine does none of this, at least not for me. I feel like the perfect student, the most enthusiastic employee, the most efficient thinker. In fact, I think I'll submit this trip report to Erowid and see if they accept it, as there aren't many trip reports on Benzedrex there. They published one of my other reports on hydrocodone and Asperger's Syndrome, so it's worth a shot.
Being a former ephedra user (addict?) for 2+ years in my teens/early 20s and wanting to try something like Adderall or Ritalin for awhile, I think propylhexedrine is pretty nice overall. I really abused those Mini-Thins, taking 4-5 at a time and then dancing my little heart out everyday, luckily with no serious health effects that I know of. I have chased that feeling constantly since quitting in 2004 when ephedra was yanked from the market, as I deal with chronic fatigue on a daily basis and have since I was about 13. I'm 24 now and opiates are my drug of choice, but I still have an affinity for things that speed me up.
Having never tried Adderall, Ritalin, or any other stimulant besides yerba mate, caffeine, and coca tea, I can't really compare Benzedrex to anything, but I can say that it's an interesting little OTC drug. I long to have the energy, stamina, and enthusiasm that "normal" people have, and this chemical has provided me with a nice temporary escape from my constant lethargy. Being that I'm experiencing these significant effects from such a minute dose, I'm very glad I didn't take the whole dose and spaced out my dosing over a long period. And why not be cautious? There's nothing to lose by taking it slow and allowing your body to adjust to a new substance and, honestly, I'm having a great time. This drug definitely warrants further investigation
Well, I guess that about covers it as far as my experience goes. In the spirit of harm reduction (and because I'm still quite tweaked), here are some things you can do to reduce the risks associated with taking Benzedrex:
*Benzedrex inhalers contain a mixture of propylhexedrine, menthol and lavender oil. This solution is said to have a very basic ph, or as one person put it, "the ph of bleach". To counteract this and aid with digestion, I added lemon juice and took 500mg. of ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) with my dose. This is by no means scientific and was more of a mental reassurance for me than anything. Such a strong solution CAN have bad effects on the digestive system though, so having some sort of stomach-calming agent on hand, like ginger tea or an antacid, is not a bad idea.
*While some people consume the cotton that contains the drug, doing so can cause all sorts of problems including severe nausea, vomiting, and intestinal blockage. This is not advised. Instead, the goodies can be extracted or dissolved in hot water, lemon juice, soda, coffee, or some other acidic liquid. You can soak it overnight, for 24 hours, or for no less than 1 hour if you're pressed for time. Make sure to squeeze the cotton periodically to ring out more of the good stuff. This method works, and I totally vouch for it. Why risk your health any more than you have to?
*Because Benzedrex can raise blood pressure and pulse, it's a good idea to have some sort of downer on hand, especially if it's your first time. Benzos like Xanax and Valium are best, but Valerian root or other herbal depressants are probably effective and are better than nothing.
*Don't use Benzedrex with other stimulants or vasoconstrictors like nicotine, amphetamine, or even caffeine, as this adds to the dangers of the drug. If you're worried about increased blood pressure, having some bp meds like atenolol around doesn't hurt. To avoid increased strain on the cardiovascular system, avoid exercise or strenuous activity while on Benzedrex, and stay hydrated at all costs. THAT MEANS DRINKING WATER, not something like pop or tea, which can further dehydrate you.
*Benzedrex can cause fluctuations in blood sugar/glucose levels, so eating or drinking something sweet during your high can decrease the harshness of the post-Benzedrex "crash", which is really like a huge sugar crash in many respects. Taking this drug on a full stomach also lessens the crash and helps prevent nausea for most people.
*If you have high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, diabetes, hyperthyroidism, narrow-angle glaucoma or any serious health condition, avoid taking Benzedrex in a manner inconsistent with the labeling. Doing so could kill you and is not worth it.
*Those with a low or nonexistent tolerance for stimulants should start off with a very small dose to avoid a bad experience. One inhaler contains roughly 250mg. of the active ingredient, but this could be much too high a dose for a first-timer despite a lot of the advice I've seen on dosing. Use the extraction method I described, take tiny sips periodically, and wait to see how it affects you and you should be fine.
*Keep your use of Benzedrex to no more than 2-4 times a month to avoid psychological addiction and the negative health effects of stimulants.
...and that's all I can think of for the time being. If anyone can think of any other precautions regarding this drug, please add them to this thread. Smart drug users will thank you.
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