Propylhexedrine - First Time - Up, Up, and AWAY!

[Cface]

Great report, i plan on trying it this weekend :D. I've got experience with many stimulants so i'll be sure to make a report on it, keep your eyes peeled!

I had a really bad experience with propylhexedrine. I definitely experienced the head rush feeling of lowered blood pressure, but for 2 days. I felt overall very bad physically after the initial decent high. I had terrible peripheral stimulation and constricted blood vessels. After about 6 hours I began to hallucinate moving textures on smooth surfaces, and I kept seeing dark figures out of the corner of my eyes, that would loom towards me. I was driving at one point, and started becoming delerious... I kept turning to the passenger seat, which was empty, thinking it was my wife, and I would say something completely random but as if responding to her, like we were having a conversation, but we of course were not, since she was not there. I was aware that it wasn't real but kept doing it... it was weird and unsettling.

I took 2 days to feel normal again. I don't ever want to touch it again, and the smell of lavender now makes me feel sick.

I did have 2 inhalers within 2 hours. I had read the few reports that had been on Erowid at the time and half suggested 2 inhalers, saying 1 wasn't enough. It's possible I could find it nice with just 1 inhaler, but I'm not risking it. Plus I think I would throw it up because of the association. It honestly ruined the smell of lavender for me forever... I find it nauseating.

Wow 2 inhalers within 2 hours... i've never done Propylhexedrine... but considering how long the high lasts at any dose and its chemical similarity to methamphetamine i think i'd not even take an entire 250mg inhaler. Thats a quarter gram of pseudo-speed. I would never do a quarter gram of meth at once, and id not do a quarter gram of this stuff at once. I'm thinking maybe 125mg would be a good initial dose. Maybe even less than that.
[god sleep deprivation is making me babble]

BTW, does anyone know if Propylhexedrine is a stronger vasoconstrictor than meth or coke? I've had some problems with blood pressure with coke in the past (but not meth, for some odd reason).

To those interested, i'll be sure to write up a full report on Propylhexedrine's effects and compare it to cocaine, methamp, and Concerta/Ritalin. Unfortunately i have no experience with Adderall. Let's pray this stuff doesn't make me pass out from low blood pressure!

Anyone ever try smoking Propylhexedrine?

Again, sorry for run-on sentences.

 

[Xorkoth]

Wow 2 inhalers within 2 hours... i've never done Propylhexedrine... but considering how long the high lasts at any dose and its chemical similarity to methamphetamine i think i'd not even take an entire 250mg inhaler. Thats a quarter gram of pseudo-speed. I would never do a quarter gram of meth at once, and id not do a quarter gram of this stuff at once.

Yeah, at the time the only few reports on Erowid had 250mg as a lowest dose and a couple at 500mg. None of them said it was too much, and one of the 250mg ones said it was too weak. Maybe they had only been written by people with a huge tolerance? I'm not sure, but it was shitty. If I ever try it again I'll use 125mg max, and extract it. But I don't know if I'll bother. Stimulants aren'y my favorite types of drugs.

BTW, does anyone know if Propylhexedrine is a stronger vasoconstrictor than meth or coke? I've had some problems with blood pressure with coke in the past (but not meth, for some odd reason).

I don't know, but it was pretty bad for me. Then again, I had a huge dose.

For the record, I also tried it the first time at 250mg, and it was almost as bad.

 

[Cface]

^^I'll keep that in mind. I think ill just take 1/4th of a cotton rod. Xorkoth, an ex-coke buddy of mine taught me if you get those fainting-feelings you should drink lots of water and eat some salty (and sugary) foods. Seems to help out.

I have some tips from using meth how to avoid a shitty high and bad comedowns if you'd like to hear them.
You might know 'em already.
Before you tweak:
-Eat a full fuckin meal! Full of fat and eat something sugary.
-Drink a bottle of water
-Eat a couple (2) multi-vitamins.

And when you tweak:
-Drink water every few hours
-Drink a protein shake (i know it's nasty) once or twice. The whole damn glass!
-Get gum. And don't let that cashier eye-ball you!

This is part of my ritual when binging on speed/meth, and believe me it makes a WORLD of difference in both the high and comedown. I've never had a bad speed comedown and by just taking a multi-vitamin and drinking a protein shake my high lost pretty much all negative aspects, no jitters, jaw-clenching, twitching, irritability, knots in the stomach, nothing.
Give my method a shot Xorkoth, i know it's a bit of upkeep but i think you'll see stimulants in a new light if you try it my way :D

Oh yeah, those people taking large doses could be d,l,meth-amp users. I heard that amps have a cross-tolerance with PHD.

 

[QuasiStoned]

Well, my second experiment with Propylhexedrine yielded different results than the disaster of my first time. I kept the dosage way down this time, and found that lemon juice made the taste a lot less foul than just extracting in water.

After a few hours of slowly sipping, I could definitely feel some CNS, but I just felt sort of edgy and wierd moreso than euphoric. Propylhexedrine just feels VERY wierd to me, I wish I had tried proper speed so I could compare them. It dried my mouth out like crazy, and actually made me feel sort of sick when I would smoke cigarettes.

I also noted a strange effect in the dark, I saw black patterns and shit morphing around in a dark room, and oddly enough they reminded me exactly of Dextromethorphan (robotripping). I dunno, seems to me that low doses make me feel wierd and high doses make me feel euphoric but ultimately sick...

Oh yeah and I had diarrhea the day after my use, not sure if it had something to do with the menthol and lavendor oil or maybe it was something else.

 

[Lady Codone]

My vision was altered on the stuff, too, which I can't quite understand. There's a slight psychedelic edge to it that's kind of uncomfortable. My second experience with it this past week was pretty different than my first--less rapid heartbeat, less euphoria, and more lightheadedness and vision changes. I changed my preparation method a bit by adding some water and was on the verge of a UTI/kidney infection when I took it, so both of those factors probably played a part. It was still enjoyable, though...and still no headaches, nausea, stomach pain, or diarrhea. I stayed awake for 24 hours straight after a really small dose this time around, which was weird but not altogether unpleasant. Just a reminder of how strong this drug is.

I've never tried any kind of "real" speed, either, but it would be cool to compare Benz to something like Adderall/Ritalin. My only point of reference is ephedra, which is similar but very different from propyl. With ephedra there's more physical energy, adrenaline, and clear thinking; with propyl there's more mental energy, motivation to do work with your hands (typing and writing), and repetitiveness/compulsiveness.

You mentioned feeling sick when smoking, which could be due to the stimulant/vasoconstricting properties of tobacco (nicotine) when combined with the propyl. Or maybe it's just not gonna be the right drug for you, who knows? For every Benzedrex fan out there, there's at least one person who absolutely hates the stuff. At least you gave it another try and can say with certainty that you like it or don't. It's definitely something to be done in moderation, as it carries all the risks of a stimulant and not too much is known about it. I've set a one inhaler per month limit for myself, even though I really could use it right now to help me get some writing done for my job. I finished 28 reviews in one morning last week!

Guess it's back to chronic fatigue land for me

 

[Cface]

I don't know what i'm going to do with the other two inhalers i bought. I don't care for this stuff. Once the first couple hours go by your left with neck and back aches & pains, upset stomach, constant urinating. Headaches coming and going. I'm willing to give it another try but i'm not necessarily looking forward to it :S.

Lady_Codone, how the hell are you able to stay awake on this stuff? It actually made me goto sleep just 9 hours after waking up (i dosed once i woke up)!
We gotta get you to try a real stimulant. Then you'll know what you're missing haha!

 

[Lady Codone]

You could always...SEND THEM TO ME! Just kidding...you know I'd never openly solicit drugs on this HARM REDUCTION forum...but seriously...

It puts me to sleep immediately after the first few sips, but after the nap, I'm good to go!!!

(And yes, I'm dying to try an actual stimulant. Just not meth.)

 

[ebola?]

Unsolicited advice:

1. If it is your first time or if you have not acquired any stimulant tolerance, please begin with an extraction of 125 mg. Most of the negative trip reports involve unpleasant peripheral effects resulting from high doses.
2. Even if you are an 'experienced user', please don't push the dose upwards (my guess on a good limit is 1.5 to 2 inhalers in a day). p-hex is like ephedrine in that it has a high ratio of adrenergic effects to CNS effects. Thus, the therapeutic index is likely pretty low (like with ephedrine). Don't die of overheating/heart attack/convulsions, etc. Of course, no one should use classical stimulants 'regularly'.
3. I've as of yet found no data on its receptor affinities. Its feel suggests to me that there's some 5ht efflux a la meth...and some of the body tingles are from PNS fx. I too get mild visuals...more akin to pot visuals....or dissociatives, rather than 5ht2a psychs. Odd.

But who knows...what if it is potently neurotoxic in a way that's as of yet uninvestigated?
If phex releases 5ht, it probably shares the increased neurotoxicity of meth (compared to d-amp).

e-bowl

 

[skelit0re]

what the hell makes you think everyone wants to read all your idiotic quirks and almost non-existent sense of humor between you 2 actual lines of review? you try way too hard. you are not funny or entertaining, in fact, I couldnt even get a review because I gave up reading it by about the 15th line. Please dont post anymore novels like that.

 

[Thou]

Don't bump 3 year old threads just to spew short-sighted gibberish about the original content of the poster.

Just so you're aware when you come into a forum just to shit on someones experience report it pretty much makes you look like the embodiment of every mindless insult you regurgitated into said forum. There is a psychological term describing your behavior, its called projecting.

Next time insult a mirror or your reflection in the lake instead of cluttering up a 3 YEAR OLD THREAD that never should've been bumped in the first place with your callous, dumb hate.

Keep it up and you'll be disciplined. BLUA is right there in my signature.

PM me if you have any questions.

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