Probation officers ILLEGALLY FORCING DETOX!

[DeadLegend]

Hello all, im new to the forum. I came across this: http://www.mansfieldnewsjournal.com/article/20100615/OPINION03/6150309/Physicians-not-parole-officers-should-determine-what-s-best-for-patients yesterday and was so astonished that i wanted to discuss it. I for one cannot believe that this goes on!

For those of you who do not wish to read that whole story, the jist of it is that people in that city who go on probation are being forced to detox from there suboxone. The article doesnt mention methadone but i guarantee if there forcing suboxone which offers absolutely no buzz whatsoever, then they are definately gonna be forcing methadone detox.

Aside from this being ILLEGAL AS FUCK, it also goes against plain common sense. These people are going to be forced to detox from there med and inevitably end up back on an illegal drug, and then end up in jail because of probation violation. This shows you that all they care about is controlling people regardless of the outcome for the person.

An addiction is a brain disease. A person who is an addict and actively seeking treatment for it is protected under the americans with disabilities act. IT IS ILLEGAL for a probation officer to force you to detox from a medication.

I cannot believe that no one has put a stop to this yet! I know for damn sure that i would tell a PO to get fucked on that one. They have no right to do so.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

And remember, the question is not do you agree with methadone or suboxone (hell im not even really a big supporter of methadone), its what is legal and what isnt. (and whats common sense aside from that)

 

[Violenza666]

Woah.. freaky shit. WTF?

 

[BabyGurl3171]

That's bullshit. I think they're crossing a line with that. WTF?!

 

[JamtasticX]

Ridiculous. They should have no say in what their patients take if prescribed by a Dr. They really shouldn't have a say at all, but I'm not going to win that battle

 

[WSB15]

Without Suboxone or Methadone, about 80-90% of opiate addicts relapse within a year. Its sad to think how many people in this town will fail a drug test and break the terms of their probation who otherwise would have stayed clean if they had gotten Suboxone or Methadone.

 

[rincewindrocks]

move to DitM?

 

[JamtasticX]

Without Suboxone or Methadone, about 80-90% of opiate addicts relapse within a year. Its sad to think how many people in this town will fail a drug test and break the terms of their probation who otherwise would have stayed clean if they had gotten Suboxone or Methadone.

It's sad that a drug test is terms of probation. And relapsing to heroin shouldn't be seen different than staying on bupe.

But as they say ignorance breeds ignorance, and these cops are clearly inbread

 

[DeadLegend]

Im just really surprised that no one has fought this yet. They teach you your rights whenever you go to a methadone or subo0xone program. I dont get how they are getting away with this bullshit.

 

[JamtasticX]

Im just really surprised that no one has fought this yet. They teach you your rights whenever you go to a methadone or subo0xone program. I dont get how they are getting away with this bullshit.

Fear, power, and control?

Sure, you can fight for your rights, but they'll probably just inprision you on some trumped up charged in the mean time. So even in the end if you win, most people arn't going to take on the fight themselves.

It sucks because of how the law is written. You can choose to go to jail, or obey the bullshit random rules of the probation department. Of course if you change your mind in the middle, you'll get extra charges for that. Probation and parole COMPLETELY take advantage of some people, you have to pay "probation fees". Surely a city pays its probation officers from taxes, not fee's. So what are these fee's going to? Also the drug testing is often just a great way to break you down, and be submissive. Random drug tests when they decide, otherwise you go to jail.

Every time I see a truly horrifying crime, a violent rape or murder, I wonder what would've happened if we just took all the money it costs for these rediculous procedures, and put that into, I don't know, stopping violent crimes. Ugh.