Preworkout Adderall?

oxymoron310

oxymoron310

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I get a great pump when I take amphetamines and work out but am I actually building as much muscle as I feel like I am?
My friend told me people with too much muscle get prescribed adderall (someone prescribed steroids for a condition who accidentally gets big.) To make them smaller.
Pre workouts have amphetamine like things in it. Idk what do you think? If I take steroids (I'm on way too much gear btw) and adderall will they waste my time together? Or can I pump out more sets with two and get monstrous?
 
I wouldn't be concerned about the catabolic issues if you're running gear and eating food. My concern would be on cardiovascular health, as aas are already indicated to cause issues on their own such as increased blood pressure and then tossing in a potent stimulant which will increase heart and blood pressure even further. I could only see it becoming an issue with catabolism if you're not eating due to appetite suppression and not sleeping due to the stimulant effect. Though it'll be a slow process as losing true lean tissue, especially on gear, is pretty difficult especially if a training stimulus is still there. You'd essentially have to sit on your ass, not eat food, and not workout, and drop the gear before you'd notice a significant decline in muscle mass.
 
Serotonin101 said:
I wouldn't be concerned about the catabolic issues if you're running gear and eating food. My concern would be on cardiovascular health, as aas are already indicated to cause issues on their own such as increased blood pressure and then tossing in a potent stimulant which will increase heart and blood pressure even further. I could only see it becoming an issue with catabolism if you're not eating due to appetite suppression and not sleeping due to the stimulant effect. Though it'll be a slow process as losing true lean tissue, especially on gear, is pretty difficult especially if a training stimulus is still there. You'd essentially have to sit on your ass, not eat food, and not workout, and drop the gear before you'd notice a significant decline in muscle mass.
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Thanks. That's exactly what I wanted to hear. Makes sense. Still want to hear what anyone else has to say
 
I personally do think amphetamines decrease muscle for whatever reason. Whenever I've taken them I have noticed my weight never goes up always down even when properly eating sleeping and training. I don't think adderall is helpful for building muscle, in fact I think it is harmful.

I also agree, throwing in strong stimulants while straining the heart is dangerous. Even too much pre workout I have caught myself in a scare with chest pains. I also abuse a lot of recreational drugs though so that probably contributed.
 
Yeah I could never work out on this stuff. Even the smallest doses alone have given me heart palpitations (I could of imagined them of course), but would never work out. But when on it, working out doesn't cross my mind. We would just use it as an alternative to coke for the most part and sniff them. Gets you pretty tweaked out.

But in regards to the getting smaller. I never ate on this stuff. So I imagine that. Anyone I know that are scripted this stuff are very skinny girls, they never eat ether.
 
This could definitely be risky. Amphetamines and exercise both put a strain on the heart, and doing both at the same time could potentially overload your system and become dangerous. Pre-workout supplements do not contain compounds that are actually amphetamine-like. The stimulants in pre-workout supplements are more like caffeine. However, I have taken amps prior to working out in the past. Though, the doses I took were very low. Even this caused intense effects, despite the fact that I'd barely feel it if at all while sitting at my desk working like I normally am when I take stims. I'm talking about 10 or maybe at most 20mg or Adderall XR and 50-75mg propylhexedrine. And the workouts I was doing didn't even involve cardio. Just lifting.

So, given the fact that exercise and stims definitely have a synergistic effect as far as one's heart rate and blood pressure are concerned, this is definitely potentially risky. If you are going to do this, keep the dosages low. Don't go to the gym on recreational amphetamine dosages. It's not at all like pre-workout, it's entirely different and much stronger in terms of effects on the body while working out. Also, don't do cardio or anything that puts a strong strain on the heart. Focus on lifting as opposed to doing cardio if you do go to the gym on amps. But this really is not a good idea. And pre-workout is not at all like Adderall or amphetamines type drugs overall. As I said, pre-workout is much more like caffeine.
 
LandsUnknown said:
This could definitely be risky. Amphetamines and exercise both put a strain on the heart, and doing both at the same time could potentially overload your system and become dangerous. Pre-workout supplements do not contain compounds that are actually amphetamine-like. The stimulants in pre-workout supplements are more like caffeine. However, I have taken amps prior to working out in the past. Though, the doses I took were very low. Even this caused intense effects, despite the fact that I'd barely feel it if at all while sitting at my desk working like I normally am when I take stims. I'm talking about 10 or maybe at most 20mg or Adderall XR and 50-75mg propylhexedrine. And the workouts I was doing didn't even involve cardio. Just lifting.

So, given the fact that exercise and stims definitely have a synergistic effect as far as one's heart rate and blood pressure are concerned, this is definitely potentially risky. If you are going to do this, keep the dosages low. Don't go to the gym on recreational amphetamine dosages. It's not at all like pre-workout, it's entirely different and much stronger in terms of effects on the body while working out. Also, don't do cardio or anything that puts a strong strain on the heart. Focus on lifting as opposed to doing cardio if you do go to the gym on amps. But this really is not a good idea. And pre-workout is not at all like Adderall or amphetamines type drugs overall. As I said, pre-workout is much more like caffeine.
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We do have pre-workouts that contain or contained amphetamine like substances. The original craze brand got popped for having ethylamphetamine
Not to mention the others with ephedrine like compounds in them (shares the same carbon backbone as amphetamine) and substituted phenethylamines (this class includes all the MDxx compounds and what not).
 
Don’t hockey players fucking love pseudoephedrine? I feel like I remember reading once that some take quite large doses before games
 
Literally no one in the world gets prescribed Adderall because they “got too big (muscular)”...some people get prescribed stimulants (usually Vyvanse or phentermine) for binge eating disorders but no legitimate doctor is going to prescribe amphetamines to shrink someone’s muscle mass - not to mention they won’t.

I used amphetamines for years with many doses falling pre workout. The appetite blunting is usually pretty short term for most people and typically goes away quickly with any tolerance.

Almost all pro bodybuilders use amphetamines. Your friend is an idiot lol I’d strongly suggest ignoring any future advice from him
 
thegreenhand said:
Don’t hockey players fucking love pseudoephedrine? I feel like I remember reading once that some take quite large doses before games
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Most athletes like ephedrine but it’s still not much stronger than caffeine in comparison to amphetamines
 
Swim15 said:
Most athletes like ephedrine but it’s still not much stronger than caffeine in comparison to amphetamines
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Yeah I agree I’ve tried it for running once or twice myself. Didn’t seem worth it. Though oddly enough the pseudo seems to help with mental focus (eg. doing schoolwork). Nothing like adderall but interesting nonetheless
 
yeah sorry but this is a total load of shit ! first of if you do cardio and actually have a decent fitness level then your heart will more than cope !

ive taken eph, speed, coke, every PWO going and tons of caffeine whilst running test prop, tren ace, clen , winny & all other kinds of combos ! ive always been perfectly safe !

infact ive had none workout & no drug induced panic attacks that have scared the life out of me and my heart rate infact was probably 60 bpm less than working out !

i will say though, hitting the gym on .05g of coke was the worst w/o off my life - it just did not go together at all!
 
ZosoUK said:
yeah sorry but this is a total load of shit ! first of if you do cardio and actually have a decent fitness level then your heart will more than cope !

ive taken eph, speed, coke, every PWO going and tons of caffeine whilst running test prop, tren ace, clen , winny & all other kinds of combos ! ive always been perfectly safe !

infact ive had none workout & no drug induced panic attacks that have scared the life out of me and my heart rate infact was probably 60 bpm less than working out !

i will say though, hitting the gym on .05g of coke was the worst w/o off my life - it just did not go together at all!
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The human body is quite resilient, and can tolerate most things in the short term, especially when you are young, giving the illusion that there isn't a problem..
Unfortunately you can't see the damage on the inside, which will eventually become a problem the longer you continue..
Amphetamines are associated with bone degeneration, as well as effects upon the cardiovascular system, this combined with anabolic agents, or other stimulants like cocaine can lead to multiple complications already previously discussed on this forum over the longer term..
 
Genetic Freak said:
The human body is quite resilient, and can tolerate most things in the short term, especially when you are young, giving the illusion that there isn't a problem..
Unfortunately you can't see the damage on the inside, which will eventually become a problem the longer you continue..
Amphetamines are associated with bone degeneration, as well as effects upon the cardiovascular system, this combined with anabolic agents, or other stimulants like cocaine can lead to multiple complications already previously discussed on this forum over the longer term..
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This. "out of sight, out of mind" is not a good way to gauge internal health. Many times I have felt fine but blood work has definitely shown otherwise. Not to mention cardiac remodeling and other issues occur gradually over time. It's not an over night process
 
Watch your thought patterns on adderal - that shit can send you nuttier than a nut cake. On peanut butter.

lemmy was on 7g a day - never did him any harm.
 
Try DMAA, its an actual stimulant which is used in some of the more extreme pre workouts, its Illegal in Canada
 
BenzoBrain^ said:
Dallas McCarver is a perfect example..died at 26 years old..:(
He was massive and very strong too. But.. Using so many hormones...you just never know...
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He was who came to mind for me. Same with Matt porter. I never though Porter would pass at such a young age especially since he became a lot more health conscious in his last years
 
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