Prescribed Klonopin by another Doc - Should I tell Sub Doc?

[allecw]

I am hopefully going to see a new Sub doc in the next few days. This would be my third time starting on Bupe. My last Sub doc actually prescribed me Klonopin and Subutex.

Well I have a regular doctor I have been seeing for a while that prescribes me Klonopin. Not very much. .5mg 2 times a day for anxiety. It actually doesnt do anything for me anymore but I still want to keep getting the Klonopin. I definitely dont abuse it.

If I tell the Sub dob about my regular doc, and the Klonopin that couldnt hurt me in any way could it? I would prefer for my regular doctor to know absolutely nothing about this. I assume the sub doc or even the pharmacy are not allowed to talk to my regular doctor right? My understanding is that none of my doctors or even the pharmacy are allowed to talk to anybody else about me without my permission.

Im sure this is kind of a stupid question, and everyone will tell me it is fine to tell the Sub doc about the other doc and the Klonopin. I just wonder is there absolutely no way for my regular doctor to find out I am in a Suboxone program? It also wouldnt effect how much Sub they prescribe me either would it? I dont know how Sub docs look at it but I know some are leary of mixing opiates, and benzos. Although Bupe, and Klonopin really seems to have no effect on me.

Also is it ok if I tell the new Sub doc that I was on a Suboxone program before? Twice? I was actaully going to bring in one of my old bottles of Subutex to show what I used to get in hopes of getting Subutex again. As opposed to actual Suboxone. Which I cant afford.

For whatever reason I am just nervous going to see a Sub doc again. I dont know why. Im sure everyone here will just tell me to be totally truthfull, and tell them everything so they can best treat me. I just dont want to screw it up, and say the wrong thing. Or not tell them something that I should.

 

[Engage]

Shitty advice from one facing a similar situation:
It's always hard switching from something you know works (or used to)...to some new shit.
I say: Trust the doctors, as aloof and stingy and un knowledgeable as they may seem.

But first stock up on Klonopin, in case Plan B fails, miserably.
Then tell your doc what's going on, try and get a discount if you paid him 800 'smackaroos'....
for a visit...and the shit didn't perform...2pennies.

 

[laCster]

Probably it is best to tell the truth, it does depend on your doc though, if she has voiced her negative opinions on benzos before, than don't tell her.

I am script temazepam and suboxone by the same doctor, and temazepam is more recreational and addictive than kpin

 

[Supeudol]

^ Geez You guys are lucky in the U.S.. In Canada, in the province I am in, in Western Canada here we have a thing called "Netcare" now and now my Sub doctor can go see everything I get from my regular GP.

I really wish that my regular GP could prescribe me Subs instead of these expensive Sub doctors that trying and take you off of everything, especially in Canada I noticed.
My Benzo tolerance is through the roof, and I have been on a Diazepam taper with my Sub doctor, but haven't really been following it 100% because his rules are that you can't be on a benzo and Suboxone at the same time which is complete ignorance IMO, because I don't even get sedation from Benzo's anymore unless taken in REALLY High doses in combination with other opioids & Lyrica.
He even took my Pregabalin (Lyrica) dosage from 600mg/day down to 150mg/day . I tried explaining to him that I have problem always coming off benzo's and Lyrica, my GABA system is entirely fucked from so much Benzo abuse, and other GABAergics, even my GABA-B Receptors are probably still down regulated from repeated GHB use, even though I haven't had any G since the summer or something..
Anyways, my Sub doc dropped my dose of Diazepam of 15mg/day all the way down to 6mg. Its a damn joke here! Their motto is "Addiction is Addiction" and all this shit about me being too med focused right now, well I am med focused right now because I can barely function on the dosages I am on, so I have had to supplement with getting more Diazepam on the street.

Its impossible to find Lyrica on the street here locally, even Benzo's are hard enough to come by where I live. This City is a straight Coke & Crack/Shards all about the "uppers" city which fucking sucks. Fuck that shit, people are seriously fucked that live here, I don't belong here even though I've lived here my whole life. Winters are horrible, traffic is fucking horrible. 1 fucking freeway for a city of over 1.4 million people in the metro, and no freeway going east to west, no freeway bypass to bypass the City as well. The only City in Canada with no freeway bypass, and a bunch of fucking heads.
Damn, I wish I lived in Vancouver or something.

The thing is, I can goto my regular GP, but I don't know if he'll even write me more Lyrica or what, and I've been on Lyrica for like 6-7 years, I don't know because he already got a nasty call from my Sub doc's partner about prescribing me some extra Lyrica, and 10 2mg Xanax bars which was my fault, telling him to write me that instead of Diazepam.
But my Sub doctor freaked about this when I told him, because my GP told me to tell him what I got from him, and I shouldn't have because I went to a different pharmacy and it didn't show up on netcare.

So I don't know, but Sub doctors in my City are anal, and there are only 2 doctors able to write Suboxone in my City, (Second Biggest City in Western Canada). Approx 1.4 million including metro. I mean, c'mon Canada, we slack in everything in healthcare, the equipment they use at most hospitals in this province is so outdated, its a joke really. I mean people say we don't have to pay for healthcare here, but we do, we pay it in premiums each month, or each year. Also, Dental care is not included in the healthcare, I guess Health Canada doesn't consider Teeth part of the human body. And I have had to spend thousands trying to fix up my teeth, with crowns, etc, after having a dry mouth for so long and not flossing properly, and all the drugs, sweetooth and shit you get from opiates basically fucked up all my bottom teeth, and a few of my top teeth. I've had a bunch of teeth pulled on left bottom side, and have no teeth on my bottom back left side now.

Fuck, I don't know what I am going to do. My Sub doc has me @ 16mg/day. And at this low dosage of Lyrica, it doesn't help much with the "gooseflesh - crawling skin feeling" you get with coming off benzo's & opiates. Lyrica works really well for this in higher doses, but my Sub doc wants me off Lyrica as well. I mean, wtf? And they are all about the "12 step programs" here. IMO, CBT works much better for me in S.M.A.R.T Recovery meetings compared to downer meetings like NA or AA.