Preloading for LSD

[louisvillemusicman]

If any of you have seen my previous forums, I have noted how I react to LSD much less than other people seem to
Example: My friends took 1 hit of 100mcg LSD and they said they tripped balls. I took 3.5 and I didn't feel anywhere to close to tripping balls
I am planning on tripping this Friday with some friends and I really want to make this trip count so I was wondering if there is any vitamins or supplements I could preload on to make my trip better.
Right now I take (I'm not sure on dosage) Vitamin D, Omega 3 Fish Oil, multivitamin, and calcium daily along with 300mg of Wellbutrin and 50 of Vyvanse.
I've heard about vitamin C, magnesium, and 5-htp supplements can affect the trip in some way
Can anyone vouch for anything of this? If you can could you tell me when I could take what to make the trip better?
Thanks a bunch!
Love & Peace,
Ben

 

[Flickering]

Have you EVER had a strong LSD trip?

I'm just out of an almost two-tab trip (above average strength tabs), which is the highest I've ever taken, and I'm surprised that I can say... it wasn't that strong. Especially considering 1 and a quarter tabs from the same batch only had slightly less of an effect. This is my fifth experience with LSD. And I'm pretty sure that this is just the way it is in my case. It's the particular effect acid has on me. Visuals were very subtle, headspace was very interesting but nothing too out-of-this-world. I can only imagine sense of self, and reality, would start dissolving in the way you're talking about with tripping balls, at a much higher dose.

I've also taken large-ish doses of cactus (21 inches) only to have a similar experience, and at the time I also thought, maybe this is just what mid-high dose cactus is like for me? I since dismissed it thinking I'd taken an inactive branch, but maybe not.

So maybe it's just our setup? If you're really looking to blast yourself to another reality, have you tried ketamine or DMT?

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

I've used 5-HTP in the days prior to an LSD experience (not on the same day) and didn't notice too much of a difference. The trip was still strong as ever. It's hard to know if the 5-HTP made a difference or not though, because LSD purity varies so much from batch to batch. So maybe I took slightly weaker LSD but the "pre-loading" made up for it. LSD experiences are so subjective though... I'm taking (and was taking) magnesium and fish oil supplements daily. They seem to help more with amphetamine usage than with LSD. YMMV.

Are you planning on taking the Wellbutrin and Vyvanse with the LSD? Because that may not be the best idea.

 

[louisvillemusicman]

I plan on taking the Wellbutrin simply because I have been for the past 3 years and not taking it would probably do nothing but if anything something negative. I'm thinking I might take about 1/3 of the Vyvanse just so I am not insanely ADHD like normally but not really super focused.
Yes, I've tripped my nuts off before. I had posters in my room singing to me and colors flying off my walls. It was insane.

 

[Venrak]

Preloading won't work the same way it does for MDMA, since LSD's action is not based upon a release of neurotransmitters.

 

[VerbalTruist]

You need to get off the Wellbutrin and Vyvnase. I'd be willing to bet that's your problem right there. If you need that shit to be sane then don't stop taking it, but if you can manage without I'd bet your trip will be better. You'll need to allow for time for the drug to CLEAR your system. Three days, at least.

Also, the post above me is accurate. You can't preload in the same way you would for MDMA or AMT. It might help a little or it might just be psychosomatic.

 

[Solipsis]

Good post ^

Other than that, it is possible to potentiate LSD but the term 'preloading' is out of place like euphoricnod says. Piracetam works to
increase the intensity of trips but it should be approached with caution since the elevated risks are unknown for say seizures or generally unwanted experiences. I've tried it a few times and found it interesting but I wouldn't just recommend it like that. Instead just taking a higher dose or looking for other psychedelics is a better option, but the best one remains to ask yourself why you are on meds like Wellbutrin and Vyvanse to begin with (especially the former), to which the answer is often 'stabilization' and if that really combines well with tripping which is potentially destabilizing.

 

[folding_space]

I was going to suggest racetams as well, but Solipsis brings up a good point about the added dangers/negative side effects, not to mention that they change the qualitative properties of the trip in a way that is difficult to pin down/describe but is definitely non-trivial. I would almost say that tripping on piracetam is an entirely different experience in some ways.

If you can get access to it, just take more acid. Or taper off the meds, but only if you feel that this isn't putting you at risk of a major depressive episode.

 

[bluedolphin]

In my experience Piracetam + LSD = a somewhat stronger but also more challenging LSD experience. Not in a favorable kind of way.

I'd rather just eat a somewhat larger dose of LSD to get a stronger trip that feels better.

Also I've never heard of pre-loading for AMT. AMT to me is a lot similar to LSD except with more of a body load and a less pleasant come-down.

Solipsis, I thought Piracetam was a minor anti-epileptic, if anything. What makes you think there would be a higher risk of seizures?

 

[TheAzo]

I suspect the problem is the wellbutrin.
Antidepressants tend to greatly blunt the effects of psychedelics.

Vyvanase shouldn't, but i'd avoid it on the day of the trip anyway, since you generally don't want to add stimulant effects to a psychedelic.

Also, likely the person who was "tripping balls" off of 1 hit was either abnormally sensitive, or exaggerating the effects he was experiencing.