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Misc prednisone for opiate wd?

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x_fizzler

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i remmber reading somewhere this stuff can help with the leg pain of WD pretty well. Well i have 4 20mg tabs and im currently on a 21 day methadone taper but sometime the md isnt enough and my legs really hurt.. wouls breaking one of these tabs in half and trying it be a very smart idea? i know prednisone itself can be physically addictave to but im sure taking a few 10mg doses wouldnt cause a dependency?
 
judging by its side effect profile and its method of action, and the fact that leg pain/cramps are a minor side effect, i wouldn't reccomend anybody take this during withdrawal. i could be wrong though
 
Well prednisone does have bad side effects as it is a steroid, but I believe they usually come with long term use or use many times over. Ive been prescribed it many times in the past for injurys such as muscle strains and it was always prescribed for short periods of like 6 or 7 days. I think using four 20's is fine but I am skeptical of how much it will help WD problems. Prednisone would help more if there is inflammation involved, as with pulled muscles. Im not exactly sure of your problem but maybe something for muscle spasms would be better. Good luck.
 
ya i searched around alot and couldnt find to much about this drug helping wd's. And ive read its not very fun causes mood swings and things like that? To the poster above, what did this drug do to you mentally when takefor short periods?

As far as it helpfulness as a wd aid goes maybe someone who knows a bitcould chime in. Basically i saw a comment on another forum saying pred really helped out for the leg pain. I was at a friends house digging through non narcotic scripts that might aid me, i started cutting the mdone today so i figure things will only get worse.

Right now at 40mgs i feel decent even a bit high and sedated an hour after dosing. But in about 8 hours my legs and arms start getting really weak and sore even when im sitting they feel all sore bout the only way to get rid of the soreness is heat or laying down with my legs fully extended. So i was wondering if taking 10mgs of pred to see if it helps is even worth it? I looked online and cant find anything saying methadone and pred is a dangerous combo but i wont want to get even more moody than i am. which brings me to the next question.

i feel some serious rage like way worse than other opiate rage, like the other day i was buying water at a gas station and the guy in front of me was taking to long choosing lottery tickets, i really wanted to punch him, im not even usually an angry or violent person even when im sober the anger is to much! I cant figure out what its really from though if the irritation is becuase im detoxing or becuase i start coming down off the methadone in about 8hrs... I thought meth was suppose to last 36hrs though. Does anyone have a good remedy for this i was thinking about going to a physctrist pretty soon. I have issues that need to be resolved so i stay clean, but i was thinking in the mean time i could try getting a script for neuroton or something. If that falls through what do you all use to counter opiate rage/detox irritation? For me this is almost the worst part im scared ima flip and lose my job over something stupid.
 
I've done prednisone many times, during opiate wd as well. And it doesn't do jack shit for withdrawals. Prednisone mainly affects the immune system, not the nervous system. So while it is GREAT for allergies and cold, and does cause euphoria occassionally, I wouldn't recommend it for opiate wd. If they helped for me I would have been took them as I have pretty much unlimited access to them.

Epinephrine too, but it doesn't help either. :( I wish this vial on my table was morphine or some shit instead.
 
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I dont think mixing prednisone with methadone is a problem, but I would just forget about the prednisone anyways, save it for something else. 80mg's of prednisone is not a lot either, Ive for sure been prescribed 40mg's per day before. The liver destroys a large amount of prednisone, which is why some doctors prescribe medrol, which I think works better. Also, Ive never got any euphoria from prednisone whatsoever, none that I noticed anyways.

I think you're getting pissed because your detoxing, it makes you the opposite of happy, which makes you mean. I would try to get a hold of some flexeril, soma, baclofen, a muscle relaxer for the leg problems. Advil or aleve might help to. It sounds like your muscles are tightening up if not spasming. Especially having to lay down with your legs straight, that sounds like hamstring tightness. Ive had the same kind of problems before but from physical problems and not WD.

Are you able to get more methadone so you can do a slower taper?
 
Ya i get muscle spasms bad at night i usually take potassium and calcium and they go away but like my whole body will jerk and wake me up. Ya im on the 21 day program today was my first cut. Im tappering from 40 down to 3mgs then coming off over 14 days. Ive only been on 40mgs for about 7 days and i would say it wasnt even holding me well till the last 2 days. I cheated today though i got so stressed i took an m30 which i shouldnt have done. I just cant deal with the irritation sometimes!!

Anyways i got 3 600mg nurotins i figured id see if theyd help my mood. Im assuming 600mgs is pretty big? would 300 help out? Im really trying not to cheat but the only meds i got are trazadone to help me sleep cant take it in the day knocks me on my ass
 
it's very unlikely that prednisone would help your leg spasms and pain. calcium, magnesium, and zinc tabs (they're all together in one tablet) and 600-800mg of ibuprofen would prob help a whole lot more than pred.
best of luck to you.
-izzy
 
x_fizzler said:
Ya i get muscle spasms bad at night i usually take potassium and calcium and they go away but like my whole body will jerk and wake me up. Ya im on the 21 day program today was my first cut. Im tappering from 40 down to 3mgs then coming off over 14 days. Ive only been on 40mgs for about 7 days and i would say it wasnt even holding me well till the last 2 days. I cheated today though i got so stressed i took an m30 which i shouldnt have done. I just cant deal with the irritation sometimes!!

Anyways i got 3 600mg nurotins i figured id see if theyd help my mood. Im assuming 600mgs is pretty big? would 300 help out? Im really trying not to cheat but the only meds i got are trazadone to help me sleep cant take it in the day knocks me on my ass
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If you mean you have Neurontin, or Gabapentin, those actually may do you some good, it may not be much, but those actually can atleast 'possibly' help your WD. Neurontin can make you feel sick though, when prescribed it is usually a very slow buildup. I had to be immediately started on a very high dose of it and I got very sick the first few days. The bad thing is you only have three, the good thing is they are 600mg's which is sort of like 2 pills in one.

300mg's is usually the starting dose to take I believe, I think usually 3 times a day. Im not sure what to tell you to take to help your WD. If the WD is bad then I maybe would pop 600mg to try and be more sure it helps, I worry a bit 300 will be too little. Im not sure if it will help in the first place, but I know it has for people beflore. Im also not sure how you will react to it so maybe you should take 300 at first.

Also remember that sleeping through severe WD is better than being awake for it. But thats severe WD, you seem to be doing somewhat ok.
 
oh no dont get me wrong ive been through severe WD thank you duragesic patches!!This is a cake walk so far. Ive had 3 medically assisted detoxes in my life this is the first time i tried methadone. The whole reason for the meth was becuase i want to be descreet as this last year long binge is a secret and i cant afford days off work. I know its going to get harder from here on out too i have no sickness just sore legs and irratiblity. The dickishness is what i need to really get under control though i have a job where i make tips too so if i want to make money i cant be a bastard! Ive tried gabapentin before during a minor home detox from darvocets dont remmber it helping with pain or anything but i do remmber not feeling like fighting people... i was just under the assumption i had 100mg pills before idk
 
I would not recommend taking prednisone unless its a medical necessity, especially not for consecutive days. I was on it for about 10 days to reduce blood-vessel inflammation, and it pretty near drove me nuts. I would get extremely over-emotional, very sensitive, and paranoid about what people were thinking/saying about me. It can also cause extreme mood swings and feelings of agitation in even slightly stressful situations. I can't see how it would be beneficial to risk such side effects to curb your RLS (I suffer from RLS too, but I would take that over prednisone any day)

As a side-note, I've been switched to Methylprednisolone (Medrol) at 64 mg a day, and have noticed it has similar side effects, except that it makes me feel more agressive and belligerent rather than sensitive, which is not an improvement. I would avoid both of these medications unless you have a really good reason for taking them, the side effects are not worth it at all.
 
i read when researching wd of methadone and heroin that an otc herbal remedy called bryanon can help with pain, antsyness and stomach cramps. there is also something else called kali cob that is supposed to help in the same manner. but i haven't tried it myself but have had a few friends try and say it helped some. i guess it depends if you believe in holistic medicines or not
 
Dont take prednisone unless you need it.

Its one of those drugs that has NO recreational value, and for some people can have some pretty fucked up side effects.

I took one of its stronger cousins in very ample doses (for a severe injury which had to be operated on ASAP, so the swelling had to go down ASAP) and after several days I was a total wreck. I'm typically a very grounded person, but I completely lost it after a while... sleeping 2-3 hours a night, not eating, throwing up what I did eat, hot/cold, deliriously paranoid, panic attacks, etc. I didn't return to normal for about a month after I stopped taking it.

But then there's people that take it for years and never notice a thing.
 
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