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Pre-Gabs (Lyrica) first time?

F.U.B.A.R. said:
You know way more about this than I do Diz, so is pregabalin a prodrug? I.e. does it need to be metabolised to an active compound before it has an effect?

I used to jump in at 1200mg and got royally fucked up, but I've heard that frequent smaller doses are more effective than a large initial dose.
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Pregabalin has a metabolite called N-methylpregabalin but it undergoes next to no metabolisation. I’ve read studies where 97% of pregabalin is excreted unchanged in urine.

It has something like 90% bioavailability.

Unlike gabapentin which is transported solely by LAT1 (which gets saturated quickly, hence needing to space out doses) pregabalin is also transported by other carriers meaning no saturation of absorption. Which means you really don’t need to space out doses.

All very boring.
 
I'm still not quite "right" now.
Ended up taking the lot & it hit me like a brick, got weird "psychedelic" effect looking at people's teeth, their face was like a pancake & their mouth a ripped hole.

Legs are like jelly, hard to speak & type.

I'm not sold on these, it feels toxic imho. Far better drugs out there in my opinion & this is so different to the usual Gabapentin.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
I'm still not quite "right" now.
Ended up taking the lot & it hit me like a brick, got weird "psychedelic" effect looking at people's teeth, their face was like a pancake & their mouth a ripped hole.

Legs are like jelly, hard to speak & type.

I'm not sold on these, it feels toxic imho. Far better drugs out there in my opinion & this is so different to the usual Gabapentin.
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This is the issue I always see with people trying pregabalin. They don’t give it enough time to kick in, it really does take time, yeah, you should have stopped at 300mg.

Trust the Diz, I got ya! 😜

It feels horrid when you’re not used to such a high dose.

I need to state though, that using pregabalin often enough leads to physical addiction and getting off them is a fucking bitch. Do not advise.
 
600 mg first time will get you fucked like people have said 150 mg would have given you a good buzz . I have been addicted to them my mate would have them come in from india after months on them your taking thousands of mg a day just to feel something tolerance builds real quick. T he wd on them is hard 6 to 7 days no let up then all of a sudden its over but those 7 days are hard
 
MsDiz said:
Trust the Diz
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Well I'm sold, if you start a Cult I'd join.

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I will say pregabalin is a godsend in withdrawal it takes all the anxiety away you know your withdrawing back legs hurt a little and you get the sneezing fits .That is how i got on them have wd from them loads of times but then you in hell now im down from a maximum 60 300 mgs on the last day of wds day 3 no lie because i was addicted to them they were not working right. I have slowly tapered down to 1 300mg capsule thinking of jumping . Ihave took a few because im wds from heroin but will be back to one thursday.The wd from them is hell and stays same for 6 to 7 days no let up dont get a habit on them in all my heroin wds i never thought of ending it i have on pregab wiyhdrawl
 
Does any else feel like they "give you motivation" when taken?
I'm on 150mg a day and, after the negative side effects wore off, I just feel as though they are almost a good "Antidepressant" in a way.
It's definitely more of a substance that motivates me (while dealing with pain that I can't get of bed from) so I end up actually DOING THINGS!
Strange substance...
 
Aye @Zopiclone bandit it's a funny substance and deffo feels toxic in high doses. A bit like GBL.
Really fucks with your balance too.
You should have just stuck with 200-300mg for the first time and resisted the temptation to take more.
It's nice, but you have to realise the limitations, otherwise you keep taking more until you feel fucking horrible.
I've had it many hundreds if times and still would only take a maximum of 600mg once every 2-3 weeks and I'd even feel it next morning.
 
axe battler said:
Aye @Zopiclone bandit it's a funny substance and deffo feels toxic in high doses. A bit like GBL.
Really fucks with your balance too.
You should have just stuck with 200-300mg for the first time and resisted the temptation to take more.
It's nice, but you have to realise the limitations, otherwise you keep taking more until you feel fucking horrible.
I've had it many hundreds if times and still would only take a maximum of 600mg once every 2-3 weeks and I'd even feel it next morning.
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Another voice of experience.
I know 99% of BL think I'm a cunt but it's when I sniff B.S. if someone knows what they are on about & I'm uneducated in the subject I take note, soak up the information like a sponge & where respect is due I give it fully. The above post is an excellent example of this logic I use.

I'm dumb as fuck when it comes to these things, so when Ms Queen Boss & Aphex pentin comment I'm gonna stfu & take notice of it.

Respect due Richard D James.
 
Haha yeah it's nice but you can definitely go to far with it. It's best to take it in 2-300mg intervals every hour or so and total max for a sesh is about 900mg IME. It lasts ages and it feels even better the next day if you've taken a good amount. You feel a bit wonky but a good breakfast and a coffee sorts you out. As others said tolerance builds fast so it's best taken once every couple of weeks max ideally.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
I'm still not quite "right" now.
Ended up taking the lot & it hit me like a brick, got weird "psychedelic" effect looking at people's teeth, their face was like a pancake & their mouth a ripped hole.

Legs are like jelly, hard to speak & type.

I'm not sold on these, it feels toxic imho. Far better drugs out there in my opinion & this is so different to the usual Gabapentin.
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https://bluelight.org/xf/threads/pregabalin-lyrica.851260/post-15316121

Tranced said:
Pregabalin or gabapentin? If the former you might be magnesium deficient. Get chelated magnesium; Solgars brand isn't bunk (Holland and Barrets/their site).

I'd never snort pregablin for some reason, I don't think I'd like any fast comeup, if they even worked.

I think Pregabalin is wayyyy too deep and psychedelic for that. It really, really tests me sometimes in terms of the introspective and reprimanding power to it (when you're just doing everyday normal stuff as well). I 100% think this is why pregabs/gabapentin are sometimes suicidal. It's a relatively un-touted but prominent aspect of the drug for some people. I can only imagine the amount of people trying it as an alternative anxiety med from their doctors and trying to explain to their doctor these powerfully deep thoughts that they've possibly never had before and maybe being fobbed off. I would struggle to tell the difference between pregabs/gabapentin and some of my 4-aco-dmt/mushroom/LSD microdoses.
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I tried to warn you all but nobody listened!!!

Pregabalin is psychedelic as fuck. Much like psychedelics it can be a thorn or a pearl though.

I really don't think it feels toxic. If anything I think it feels reprimanding.

"You will go for a run or I'll make you feel like shit"

Or, "congragulations, you did a workout, feel lush for a day... go ahead, neck a few!"

It's so weird that it really goes well with water.
 
monstanoodle said:
Does any else feel like they "give you motivation" when taken?
I'm on 150mg a day and, after the negative side effects wore off, I just feel as though they are almost a good "Antidepressant" in a way.
It's definitely more of a substance that motivates me (while dealing with pain that I can't get of bed from) so I end up actually DOING THINGS!
Strange substance...
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Yes!! See above. Pregabalin is a psychedelic little cunt! Just as psychedelic as how weed is. Basically, if people got visuals and it was a tryptamine, they' be going "Wow great drug, nootropic and psychedelic, what a healing dream!!"

Pregabalin is forced motivation. Do shit stuff feel shit. 150mg is easily enough to feel these kind of effects. 300mg is my sweet spot.
 
Yes actually!! I also notice I can't stop running about the house frantically cleaning even though I'm zig-zagging and stumbling with wonky vision. It's been a little while and I forgot about the forced motivation aspect.
It's like I don't know I'm doing it! Coffee/cocaine x 10!
 
axe battler said:
Yes actually!! I also notice I can't stop running about the house frantically cleaning even though I'm zig-zagging and stumbling with wonky vision. It's been a little while and I forgot about the forced motivation aspect.
It's like I don't know I'm doing it! Coffee/cocaine x 10!
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Isn't it weird how some people stumble and get eye wiggles and some don't. I've taken 1200-1500mg in a day and I'm always spritely and alert!
 
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