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PPT tea + Codeine help

lazygit

lazygit

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Yo guys need some advice, I've done some PPT from raw poppy's, I leave the seeds in but am thinking whether or not the seeds are absorbing the good stuff, as much as I try to squeeze it all out! I'm not as high as I'd like and am contemplating drinking 600mgs of codeine linctus but wondering if this will be a waste since I've probably had some codeine from the pods and also I've probably used up all the inhibitors etc. I wonder if I took to long making and consuming the tea actually, as I did a first wash then second then 3rd etc etc and its quite time consuming, ideally I would have liked to consumed it all within 30 mins max but this wasn't possible.

The codeine linctus will be quite groggy compared to the tea also but I kinda don't mind that, it's just the rare immense histamine reaction I can't tolerate.

If one was to combine PPT and codeine what order? I assume the codeine first as to not use up the inhibitors to inhibit it then start drinking the tea when the codeine's been processed.

Want to save the linctus for tomorrow but my back hurts still and not the strongest teas Maybe have 400mg tramadol and some diaze and a few phergan? Also have some raw opium to smoke.

Advice?>
 
How comes when the docs give you co-codamols they say take two 30/500 capsules every four hours? When re-dosing of codeine isn't that great? Do the enzymes restore in 4 hours? lol I'm assuming it's just because 60mg codeine is such a low dose. If codeine was effective at re-dosing and not much use above 600mgs, I'd be in trouble I think otherwise.
 
I did eat some left over grinds, its been quite a while now since my first cup of PPT tea...I'd hate to eat all these grinds for nothing! yay or nay? Is there an easier way to get the liquid from the seeds? i've squeesed them etc but doubt it did a good enough job, I'm thinking soaking or heating with ethanol or something maybe?
 
Keep in mind that the LD50 of Codeine is 800mg. Combining 600mg of codeine with opium tea is playing with fire. You could die.
 
Yeah I'm keeping that in mind man although I have dosed 1200mg of codeine before, very stupid and unpleasant!
 
It's also only a very small quantity of 'raw opium' don't think I shoukl do the codeine, just eat as many grinds as I can and smoke a lil O, with tram and a few dazes. Safe note: I'm very tolerant to benzo's and codeine, granted I am mixing several CNS depressants but I feel safe doing so. I wouldn't recommend anyone none tolerant to do the same.
 
As Morphine has shit BA maybe smoking will kick it up, will report back tomorrow on results in case I nap :)
 
lazygit said:
How comes when the docs give you co-codamols they say take two 30/500 capsules every four hours? When re-dosing of codeine isn't that great?.
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Might be because if you take more than 8 500mg doses of paracetomol in 24 hours your liver fails and you die.
 
Ismene said:
Might be because if you take more than 8 500mg doses of paracetomol in 24 hours your liver fails and you die.
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LOL I'm aware of the 4gram APAP limit... but that's not set in stone..it's possible but not definite, many people survive much more than 4grams but something I agree shouldn't be even half consumed in any time period. Nasty APAP

What I was saying was that codeine isn't an efficient drug to re dose with. If there was no paracetamol issues I'd just eat them all lol. Docs are stupid using this as a deterrent because many people don't take it serious, take more than prescribed and drink on it as-well!

I got my first taste of codeine on 30/500 co-codamols and loved it! I was well aware of the dangers of liver damage but still ended up taking 4grams of APAP once to get that buzz. I'm still alive here today years later after much worse drug problems, All Blood tests fine and dandy.

Still I'd never recommend anyone to do the same, I was stupid and lucky. :)
 
Dosing that much codeine is pointless, just like re posting when you can edit! Just takes up space ;)

I thought codeine had a ceiling at around the 400-600mgs mark? could be wrong though
 
The ceiling effect is debated, at least in a recreational context. Plenty of people feel better on 750mg than they do on 600, for example.

It might well be true for analgesia though.
 
Ismene said:
Might be because if you take more than 8 500mg doses of paracetomol in 24 hours your liver fails and you die.
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That's the 'recommended' daily intake. It takes about 10-15 grammes of paracetamol to start to cause damage, and it's excreted quickly. You could take 6 grammes a day, your whole life, and not need a new liver, unless you're a chronic alcoholic.

Redosing codeine definitely works, if you leave it 5-6 hours. I was on 1-2 grammes a day, when I had a habit, and every dose got me high, because I learnt how to dose it properly. Everyone is different, and will metabolise any drug differently. Some people might be able to constantly dose, but I found the ceiling was about 400-500mg. For this reason, most tolerant users would find it very hard to OD on codeine. Not saying you can't, so, don't try!
 
In the "Make heroin legal" argument a doctor said "Take twice as much heroin as you're supposed to and you'll fall asleep for a bit, take twice as much paracemtol and you're liver will fail".
 
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