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A couple dosing questions:

My girlfriend is gonna be rolling for the first time coming up. I'm a bit worried for some reason, even though I've wanted her to. I just love her so much that I want everything to be safe. So, I was thinking of having her start with swallowing a half a pill. If she does this and everything is going good, and then takes the 2nd half, will this be less of an experience than just taking one initially? Should she do a half, then a whole? Or just drop 1?

And for me, it'll be my 3rd time. My first 2 times I've done just one. I'm thinking this time I want to do more than one, just to lengthen it a bit. Should I take one, then another after my peak? Or 1.5 then half..or what?

Thanks.
 
wgp>you27k said:
A couple dosing questions:

My girlfriend is gonna be rolling for the first time coming up. I'm a bit worried for some reason, even though I've wanted her to. I just love her so much that I want everything to be safe. So, I was thinking of having her start with swallowing a half a pill. If she does this and everything is going good, and then takes the 2nd half, will this be less of an experience than just taking one initially? Should she do a half, then a whole? Or just drop 1?

And for me, it'll be my 3rd time. My first 2 times I've done just one. I'm thinking this time I want to do more than one, just to lengthen it a bit. Should I take one, then another after my peak? Or 1.5 then half..or what?

Thanks.
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I always advise first timers to take a half and see how they feel in one whole hour.

If all is OK then take the other half.

Some people, females in particular have noted in this forum that even a half was to much for them.

Better to be safe than sorry.

If the extra half is needed then it will probably kick in within 30 mins or so.



Regards dosing..........if you want a long peak but short total duration then redose after an hour.

If you want a long total duration then redose after 3-4 hours.
 
MazDan said:
^^^^ good post.



Maybe you would prefer to die from a pma laced pill? Actually very common in Australia.........well common enough that if your not using a test kit then your dicing with death.
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heh that's why i only eat rolls my dealer has tried and had good things to say about. so far i've only eaten 5 rolls ever. all of them were pipes and i had a lot of fun with them...nothing like mdma of course..but if i want that i need to get in bulk.
 
Gormur said:
heh that's why i only eat rolls my dealer has tried and had good things to say about. so far i've only eaten 5 rolls ever. all of them were pipes and i had a lot of fun with them...nothing like mdma of course..but if i want that i need to get in bulk.
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Mate, Im sorry to tell you this but thats what dealers do..........they will say good things about there gear.

Thats there job.

No dealer in the world will put crap on his own gear he is trying to sell. He is trying to sell it.

Sales people in all walks of life lie....thats there job.


The simple fact that all yougot was pipes proves that he is doing his job well............lieing to you and building up his product to get suckers like you to buy it.


Never ever trust a dealer.
 
MazDan said:
Mate, Im sorry to tell you this but thats what dealers do..........they will say good things about there gear.

Thats there job.

No dealer in the world will put crap on his own gear he is trying to sell. He is trying to sell it.

Sales people in all walks of life lie....thats there job.


The simple fact that all yougot was pipes proves that he is doing his job well............lieing to you and building up his product to get suckers like you to buy it.


Never ever trust a dealer.
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eh I trust her. most of the time she gives me free shit anyway (pills, crystal, etc) cause i give her free weed sometimes. those rolls were around 5 bucks a pop. it all works out in the end.

if someone isn't a close friend i don't deal with them.
 
MazDan said:
I always advise first timers to take a half and see how they feel in one whole hour.

If all is OK then take the other half.

Some people, females in particular have noted in this forum that even a half was to much for them.

Better to be safe than sorry.

If the extra half is needed then it will probably kick in within 30 mins or so.



Regards dosing..........if you want a long peak but short total duration then redose after an hour.

If you want a long total duration then redose after 3-4 hours.
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I'll definitely start her off an a half then. And the other half an hour after her feeling it or dropping it?
and same for me..the longer peak option appeals more. drop the 2nd an hour after the first? like as I peak?
Thanks
 
wgp>you27k said:
drop the 2nd an hour after the first? like as I peak?
Thanks
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Pretty much.

As soon as you drop a pill it starts to work, so the little bit that begins will add to the existing one in an ever increasing crescendo but of course the other one is starting to die a little. so it sort of balances out...........
 
Amphetamine?

Alright I have a question...

I haven't rolled since New Year's and probably won't be able to again for a couple more months. The main reason for this was some trouble I got into, but I figure on the positive side, my serotonin levels should be pretty fully replenished whenever I do roll again. (Haha, and I have been waiting all these months..)

Just recently one of my friends was put on Adderall for ADD, and being such a good friend, he just gives them to me. (I guess he's just not a speed guy) Last Friday I tried 15 milligrams and had a decent time. Not too amazing, but I certainly felt it. Today I got some more from him and decided to go with 30 after doing some research on the subject. This time I really felt it and was totally amped most of the day. (Except for the horrible crash I had at around 3...) I also had a nice amount of euphoria going on, which I attributed to the slight effect on serotonin amphetamine has. (According to the faq anyway...)

During my experience today, I considered using speed as a sort of substitute for E, until I can finally roll again. (Although, not too much... That come down killed me, especially since I had to work for three hours...) But then I started thinking about the serotonin, and if that might lessen my eventual roll.

Question is: Will taking amphetamine a few more times before I take Ecstasy lower my enjoyment of my roll?

Also: How does amphetamine tolerance really work anyway? Is it like MDMA, where you just wait a few weeks? Or does it really never go down? I've heard conflicting reports...

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Are you aware that amphetamine will show up on any drug test. probably easier than Mdma.

Or is there another reason why you cant use mdma?
 
my girls small only like 5'3 and 110 lbs, first time she had 1/4 of a pill every hour for 4 hours, and was completely overwhelmed by it for 6 hours, she needed to sit down for the first 2-3 hours, second time she did the same and only needed to sit for an hour or so.

last weekend she thought she could handle it a bit better, so she had 1/2 and an hour later another 1/2, and she was completely gone, in a good way, but gone. overall i know she loved it and who doesnt but i think its better to be capable of walking/dancing and able to enjoy the festivals more, so i would advise you and your girl to go easy :)
 
Got some crystals the other day. Got a big night on Saturday. Will dropping say 50mg tonight or tomorrow, just in my bedroom, to test the crystals, will this affect my high/tolerance on Saturday?
 
sallycinnamon1 said:
Got some crystals the other day. Got a big night on Saturday. Will dropping say 50mg tonight or tomorrow, just in my bedroom, to test the crystals, will this affect my high/tolerance on Saturday?
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It will definitely use up some serotonin.

There are actually 2 bigger problems at play though.

1. Like as if you will be able to stop at 50mg. Of course your gunna take more cos 50mg probably wont even be noticeable.

2. you will also be running your body down so that you wont be in as good a shape so you will suffer more from the sat episode.
 
N-e-wbie signing in!

Hello, my first post here!
I've only rolled two times in my life, starting about 10 months ago. (Greatest feeling of my life, ghehe ;). ) I've been looking around here for a few weeks now but felt like it was the time for registration. I've mostly been focussing on post- and pre-loading for the next roll. I'm an e-newb with only two rolls on my slate, but hopefully many to come.

I want to prepare to the best for the next roll, to reduce all risks and enjoy it to the fullest. I will test the pills and try to stick to a pre- and postload schedule. Two things I have a question about:

1. I created a pre- and postload guide for myself. I know the known guides are great for the general idea and they are all personal, but I'd still like to go trough some things with other users. Only thing is, I can only find some old topics discussing these guides. I don't want to be the kick-the-old-topic-newb, so where should I post mine if I want to? Or is the whole pre- and post-loading a 'been-there-done-that'-topic with only references to older guides?
(Not just about 'here it is and now comment on it', but I've got some actual questions about replacing some supplements for cheaper ones etc.)

2. Some of the items for pre- and postloading are kind of expensive. Some containers contain like 90 capsules. My multi-vit expires after about 4 years. Are most of the products the sime when it comes to expiration? If I only roll 4 to 5 times a year, it would be kind of a waste of money to trow out the remaining products after they expire.

Thanks in advance!
 
^ welcome to the site X-termi, great to have you here! :)

have you checked out the directory yet?
theres a whole bunch of links that can guide you into some of the answers you need in there.
its the first thread in the Ecstasy Discussion board!
 
Just had to say that against all odds. Someone took pitty on me and even though I have no job and no money....I am going to the Maumee River tomorrow to fish for walleye.

I can't wait and I can't sleep!!!! WOOHOO!!!

(sorry...I don't get out much anymore)
 
metalismean said:
my girls small only like 5'3 and 110 lbs, first time she had 1/4 of a pill every hour for 4 hours, and was completely overwhelmed by it for 6 hours, she needed to sit down for the first 2-3 hours, second time she did the same and only needed to sit for an hour or so.

last weekend she thought she could handle it a bit better, so she had 1/2 and an hour later another 1/2, and she was completely gone, in a good way, but gone. overall i know she loved it and who doesnt but i think its better to be capable of walking/dancing and able to enjoy the festivals more, so i would advise you and your girl to go easy :)
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That's insane. My girl will start on half if I tell her to, but she doesn't really see why since both times I've rolled I just drop one.
The pills we'll have are the same as my last roll. Yellow Transformers. NOT the head shaped pill. Very cleanly pressed, beveled, with the logo impressed. Pillreports shows MDMA high with possibly amphetamine LOW. I enjoyed it thoroughly last time.

We'll both space out swallowing our doses 1 hour then. Her with halves, me wholes.

thanks
 
MazDan said:
Are you aware that amphetamine will show up on any drug test. probably easier than Mdma.

Or is there another reason why you cant use mdma?
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Yeah. That is certainly a risk, and I've been threatened with possible drug tests in the future, but the main reason I'm not taking it for a while is because I'm waiting until I'm able to roll with someone special, and I'm not gonna see her for a while so, I figured I'd just wait it out. So then our roll can be even more amazing! ;)
 
Ecstatic Ty said:
Yeah. That is certainly a risk, and I've been threatened with possible drug tests in the future, but the main reason I'm not taking it for a while is because I'm waiting until I'm able to roll with someone special, and I'm not gonna see her for a while so, I figured I'd just wait it out. So then our roll can be even more amazing! ;)
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Aha that makes sense.

You probably wouldnt get any real noticeable loss of serotonin from using meth. I certainly never noticed any.
 
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