Post your pic vs. Testicular atrophy!!!

This is me just now...I'm still trying to cut up but have been cheating on my diet hardcore as of recently because of family and friends coming into town...

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just clomid right now will be throwin in some letro when i get paid i think the gyno might just be from having been as fat as I was cause I ran arimidex with test and dbol for the first six weeks then dropped the dbol kept the test and threw in some epistane did my hcg got about a week left on clomid. I don't know if the letro would help with the gyno if its set in but its worth a shot.
 
The Real Fatman said:
just clomid right now will be throwin in some letro when i get paid i think the gyno might just be from having been as fat as I was cause I ran arimidex with test and dbol for the first six weeks then dropped the dbol kept the test and threw in some epistane did my hcg got about a week left on clomid. I don't know if the letro would help with the gyno if its set in but its worth a shot.
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how did u run the hcg? are your balls normal size? hows ure libido?
 
The Real Fatman said:
just clomid right now will be throwin in some letro when i get paid i think the gyno might just be from having been as fat as I was cause I ran arimidex with test and dbol for the first six weeks then dropped the dbol kept the test and threw in some epistane did my hcg got about a week left on clomid. I don't know if the letro would help with the gyno if its set in but its worth a shot.
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I agree, it looks to me like you took your precautions during the cycle and likely that gyno is from before. Letro and raloxifene are two of the best weapons against it. Very low estrogen levels may have to be maintained for a long time, which can result in painful joints, irritability and lethargy. For this reason, raloxifene, which is a breast-specific SERM, is often dosed high in hopes of not undergoing the side effects of nearly-nil estrogen levels. But your best bet is both together. A cutting diet may very well help also, helping reduce any fat deposits behind the nipples, but that may be inadvisable if you have newly acquired muscle.
 
I don't think I had a favorite part but I really liked the increased recovery time, def gonna do it again but not any time soon don't ever try to train around a hernia for several months and expect it to go away shit got fucked up today, gotta go get xrays done and probably surgery som I'm probably gonna be out the game for a month or 2.
 
The Real Fatman said:
I don't think I had a favorite part but I really liked the increased recovery time, def gonna do it again but not any time soon don't ever try to train around a hernia for several months and expect it to go away shit got fucked up today, gotta go get xrays done and probably surgery som I'm probably gonna be out the game for a month or 2.
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Are you talking about a herniated disc in the back?

Yes those are awful. I had one of those. Luckily I was able to recover from it. Since then I have walked numerous athletes through recovery from them. It is not easy. Take care.
 
I realize this thread is a month old and it's highly unlikely anyone will respond to this but here goes:

So here's me. I'm roughly 178 now, and I previously went through a crazy bulking phase for 8+ months that put me at 205lbs/16%. I looked on the verge of normal/fat. I then panic-ed.

I've been decreasing food intake (without doing any plans or math) over 4 months to get to my current weight. The thing at my gym says I'm 11% but I still can't see my abs. My strength stayed the same with the exception of areas I was already weaker in (bench) and my arms got smaller. ...I feel my arms are WAAAAAY to small for someone who's been lifting for 2 years. Why does it look so easy for everyone else?

I've started taking a fat burner, though I realize sups rarely work. ...first fat burner I've ever tried. Clenbutrux. ...stuff makes me feel out of it most of the day.

I think much of my weight-loss has been attributed to my bicycle. I moved further away from everything and I don't own a car/refuse the bus. I'd hate to think I've been eating/lifting all this time just to look normal. (everyone in my family is a tiny long-distance runner)

What do you think? Why the hell does everyone have eerie veins but me?

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Most likely your mad bulking phase induced some degree of insulin resistance. You may wish to do a carb-free diet for a few months if such is the case. Sadly, it is _very_ difficult to measure insulin resistance, so it has to remain in the realm of guesswork. One thing is for sure, once that gets out of control, being even in reasonable shape becomes increasingly difficult.
 
clenbutrex by vpx is a ridiculous fat burner...you dont look like youve been lifting for two years...go back to the basics...ie lean protein and heavy compounds...do cardio 3x a week @30-40min high intensity...
 
I live 5 miles from everything and I bike to it on a (brakeless) fixed gear. (Which is more taxing than a regular-old bike) I'm doing that 2 to 4 times a day. Figured that was good enough.

I've tried completely cutting carbs in the past but I hate how bloated it makes me feel. (even with psy. husk) I try to eat carbs when it makes sense to do so. I limit them on I'm days when I have little activity. I'm still not getting fancy with scales or macros though. ...just keeping my protein high.

I do deads pretty frequently but no more than three weeks at a time. I used to do squats too but the biking interferes with that. I forced myself into bench for awhile but I really prefer DB bench. (I feel it more)

I look pretty lean but I feel fat. (Even at 174...weighed this morning) My waist is almost 31 now.

I've restricted my lifting to 2 times a week for about an hour in a half (from 4x45min) . Mainly due to time restraints and excess biking. I remember when I did track/cross country and I still never looked as lean as most guys.

clenbutrux is ridiculous? It makes me not as hungry, and makes bad foods seem unappealing.
 
Oh and here's an actual flex pic.
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On a side note my diet consist of chicken breast/tuna/eggs/cheese and various carbs sources. (potatos, couscous, broccoli, occasional brown rice) ...I recently cut out tuna (water retention from the high sodium in tuna) and should probably look into cutting out cheese.

I occasionally have Subway.

I've studied other people's diet and they don't see that far off from my own. I must have bad genetics. ...originally I made it up to 180lb from 150lb and fairly cleanly. Then due to frustration (and feeling I wasn't as strong/big as I was supposed it be at that weight) started eating dirty and spiking my insulin after workouts. I also drank beer fairly frequently.

I've been drinking off and on now but not excessively. I'm wondering if I should cut that out too. I bet I'm one of those guy who was to eat completely clean or face looking normal.

I hate how other people I ask (non-lifter) always tell me I look fine. It's not helpful.
 
I meant that clenbutrex is ridiculous iin the fact that its a fucking AWESOME OTC fat burner, but it's only really effective if you have single digit bf to begin with...

i dont think youre workign out enough..if youre only working out 2x a week then you gotta really be hitting it hard those 2 days.....

cut out all dairy products..

maybe do shorter workouts more times a week...all you need is 45-60 minutes
 
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