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~SWIM~

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Hey all, SWIM recently took, I know this sounds impossible due to the amount, but 3.5 grams of ecstasy. All of which was tested and was clean (Black,Black,Blue) He and a friend stockpiled around 7 grams and then split it evenly for a night of rolling. The roll was awesome that night and brought back the feeling of the first time of dropping ecstasy ever. The next day the hangover and afterglow weren't too bad at all. But about a week afterwards SWIM started having panic attacks, a condition which was never present in SWIM's life before. SWIM has now had panic attacks on and off for around 3 months and hasn't touched ecstasy since and vowed not too until the attacks subside for an elongated amount of time. Does anyone know anyone else out there who has had post MDMA anxiety? If so, please post a "cure" or a regimen to a "cure" so I can let SWIM know some good news and help SWIM out in his struggles since the massive dose of ecstasy. Thanks all!!
 
oooooohhhh there goes another one :(


First off, no swimming here, hop on out of the pool we all know its you lol..

Secondly, that is a stupidly high dose of MDMA. Major damage can occur before even .5 grams... you are now getting the effects of 5-HT depletion, and it's not going to be fun. You have some serious damage to yourself, do not deny to yourself, you have. The major thing that is going to help you right now is TIME. You need 3 months at least for serotonin to recover, and that's after every normal roll. You should probably take 6 months off.


Exercise and a healthy diet, as well as some supplements can help you in your recovery, but what you need right now is to go a long time without drugs to let your serotonin regenerate. Hopefully you haven't triggered an anxiety disorder, it is a very common side effect of MDMA abuse though...


I've been in that kind of situation man, if you wan't to live a live without worry than you need to chill out with the MDMA... you took 3.5 grams of a potent neurotoxin that is very active at 100mgs.... just think about that :\
 
I realize my wrongdoings man haha I'm not denying that it was a stupid high dose but I got so much clean shit for a decent price and couldn't help myself, nonetheless I understand I was wrong by consuming that amount. What supplements would you recommend? 5-HTP and L-Tryptophan and some OJ daily? lol I really want to recover and be anxiety free so I am open to all suggestions and believe me no MDMA for quite some time, if I ever do roll again I will stop at the eye wobbles, they're the best part of the roll anyways (for me at least)
 
L-Tryptophan can be very helpful for some, but I don't know too much about supplements myself... I'll let others handle that :) Exercise and sunlight will be a lot more helpful than OJ and a lot of other things though, I can tell you that


I wish you luck man! Recovery is a long road, but it gets better with time!
 
thanks man, I exercise daily, I always have lol even before ecstasy, it's nice to know that you think that within time and abstaining from the drug all will become better if not completely fixed within a given amount of time. I will head outside the next nice day and possibly head to a beach on the East coast since that's where I'm from and catch some sun. Thanks for your advice, any other help is also appreciated!!!
 
also stick to kpins or bars daily? do you think anti anxiety meds daily for a few months would be beneficial?
 
thanks coolzmoker I know I did alot of ecstasy with the 3.5 , but I was far from a new user before that lol I've dropped a gram to a gram and a half, easy on countless nights with no sides after, so my thought process is that I was "immune" to this shit basically lol. So when I managed to have so much at my disposal I said fuck it and dropped it to see what that felt like and now developed a problem. Once again I admit my wrong doings with the amount that was just irresponsible, but at the time do to where my tolerance to "feel ecstasy" was (3-4 pills) it seemed like a great idea lol. In hindsight the equivalent to 28-35 pills is just insane for anybody to do and I will never make that mistake again. As far as the anxiety goes, don't take anything such as zoloft, or prozak? Right? Since those are SSRIs and my body would probably reject the drug entirely due to the ecstasy usage, so stick to the kpins and a healthy diet and exercise? thanks again to everyone who is offering advice!!
 
thanks for all the advice guys it really is appreciated, I went too hard plain and simple, I will chill and continue to recover and get better day by day. Hopefully the anxiety fades within time, IDW it in my life and MDMA isn't worth me becoming irrational about normal everyday things. Thanks again for all your help and advice, if anything else, please post!!
 
~SWIM~ said:
also stick to kpins or bars daily? do you think anti anxiety meds daily for a few months would be beneficial?
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I would recommend you throw those out to be honest...

Benzo addiction is a very serious thing, and it certainly won't help your anxiety afterwards! Only take those when you NEED them, like, cannot survive without the relief they provide. If your panic attack is not life threatening, don't take them. Toughing it out and facing recovery head on is the best way in my opinion, when you take other drugs to make it easier it really just puts off your recovery to make you feel better for a few hours instead..



Just take it one day at a time, you'll eventually get back to feeling mostly "normal" :) just be sure to not abuse it after that!



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And as always, feel free to PM me somewhere down the road should you feel the need.
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Ditto! If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to send me a message!
 
absolutely no abuse in the future once I regain becoming normal, thanks to both of you for all your help, advice, and good wishes!
 
What a waste of good Mdma. That could have popped 35 Mdma cherries... but to go in one brain for one high? Can that even fit in your brain all at once? That shit cray cray

Yoga might help - it's just such a toxic chemical though and at such a high dose, who knows really. I'd stay away from it for the rest of your life, it's not worth it, that was a fairly big mistake but life will go on. I'd definitely never roll again because whatever long term damage it does to the body, you've got it. High doses are significantly more damaging than low ones.

Things might get worse before they get better, watch out for that.
 
I thought I was going to have to quit forever... but with a 6-8 month break I was ready to roll again. Even then, I kept it very safe, around 150mgs and no redosing. I tried rolling again 2 weeks after that and had a HORRIBLE comedown that went on for a week or two..


Basically what I'm saying is that you CAN (if you want) roll again, after a very very long time of course. If you do however, you'll NEED to be safe, very safe.

NEVER dose over 200mg again, NEVER roll more than once every one or two months, and ALWAYS remember the pain that abuse caused you, because one night like that, even years from now, can undo all the recovery you will have done.




You're life isn't over, but it is going to be hampered... safe use of drugs is key at this point. Good luck Swimmy ;)
 
I am feeling much better as of late, I think I needed to hear it from people to be honest. I will never abuse MDMA again, that was a once in a lifetime experience and was fucking awesome while rolling lol I wouldn't trade that for anything, the night itself was epic. HOWEVER, I am never doing that again lmao horrible months followed. It's been a few months since I've touched E and that was my last time (3.5), I can't promise myself however that I can stick to 200mg if I ever choose to roll again because one pill just won't do the job lol. I will try to keep it to a .5 because I feel as though that will get me faced and try not to redose like an asshole lol. I was a very responsible user (up until dropping the 3.5) I spaced my rolls a month apart, took multis everyday as well as, dopamine caps 500mgs 3 times daily and 100 mg of HTP daily. I'm not some oblivious noob who blindly did MDMA without knowing anything about it. I made a mistake and own up to it and accept it lol but now it's becoming to stay behind me and I intend to keep it there. MDMA is off the list for the time being, though I do have some stacked around the same amount as what I've already dropped. I will consume smaller doses from now on and do my best to keep people around me safe. Thanks for all your help and advice guys!! HAPPY ROLLING
 
^ Actually most American presses will put low ass amounts in their pills... like 40-50mgs, and Holland pressers will put like 200mgs in a pill... it all depends where you are and what pill lol


If you have pure MDMA you can get a good roll from like 80mg, only if you're stuff is cut are you going to need over 200...
 
^ please dont speculate content based on geographic region...

Folley said:
^ Actually most American presses will put low ass amounts in their pills... like 40-50mgs, and Holland pressers will put like 200mgs in a pill... it all depends where you are and what pill lol
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Which pills have 50mg? Which have 40? Which have zero? Which have pipes?


If you have pure MDMA you can get a good roll from like 80mg, only if you're stuff is cut are you going to need over 200...
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If its cut your gonna need a new source and new mdma 8)
 
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^As far as I know though, almost all MDMA is racmic, the only times I've heard reliable reports of that happening is with the Speaker and Defqon and such




Which pills have 50mg? Which have 40? Which have zero? Which have pipes?
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Those should all be 40-60mg, in that it takes people at least 2 at one time to get effects.

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=29572
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=29251
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=29624
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=29237

Hardly any completely bunk pills are sold, and if you want to see which are pipes, check for yourself http://www.pillreports.com/


Like I said, all pills are different and it depends what you have, but unless you're getting mints or pokeballs in the US you're most likely going to need more than one pill, opposed to Holland where taking a single pill is too much. So you have to generalize the areas, somewhat.
 
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