Possibly backfiring Methylphenidate plan

[reflekt]

So, I was able to get a hold of many Concerta pills in both 18mg and 36mg for free.

I only have one prior methylphenidate experience and that's having a few beers then insufflating 10mg Ritalin. Not much.

I have exams coming up so in an attempt to study I took one 36mg pill around 9:00am. By 10:30am I was feeling not a thing, just anxious to be at least a little productive (I'm a ridiculously massive procrastinator). So with a little googling I found help on how to open up the brutal Concerta pills.

I opened up an 18mg and snorted it. So bad to crush up, it was terrible. I've had cocaine that had moisture get to it be a lot easier than that haha. So I got another 18mg and when I got down to the good chunk of methylphenidate, I just popped it (empty stomach).

It's now about an hour after taking the two 18's and I definitely feel it. Alert and full of energy. I sense the relation to cocaine. But I'm still having a terrible time getting the motivation to study as opposed to lurking around these forums and the internet in general lmao. I can't really focus on one thing.

Probably try an amphetamine next time, but as I said these were free and readily available.

To anyone with methylphenidate experience, how long are the desired effects felt before the dreaded comedown? I think I read a few hours. But I already don't particularly like it hahaha.

Also... If anyone else has used MPH to study/get work done, what dosage do you like?

 

[reflekt]

Would Propranolol aid the comedown when it hits? I have some layin around here and it helps hypertension, shaky hands, tension headaches and the sort. I did some research and only could find reports about it and MPH cancelling each other out.

 

[sekio]

Drugs aren't going to make you productive. Don't expect miracles. They just make it easier for you to force yourself to be, by providing stimulation... As you can no doubt see it's up to you to apply all that extra energy to something productive.

The desired effects are usually felt within the hour, peaking after about 2 hours from oral dosing.
2x18mg concerta is a fair amount for a naive person.

Stay off the propranolol, it's not going to help the crash at all, though it may reduce the "jitters" and physical restlessness. Then again it can also play havoc with your blood pressure. Opiates and benzodiazepines are the gold standard for coming off stimulants.

 

[reflekt]

Drugs aren't going to make you productive. Don't expect miracles. They just make it easier for you to force yourself to be, by providing stimulation... As you can no doubt see it's up to you to apply all that extra energy to something productive.

The desired effects are usually felt within the hour, peaking after about 2 hours from oral dosing.
2x18mg concerta is a fair amount for a naive person.

Stay off the propranolol, it's not going to help the crash at all, though it may reduce the "jitters" and physical restlessness. Then again it can also play havoc with your blood pressure. Opiates and benzodiazepines are the gold standard for coming off stimulants.

Ya, I'm now getting in the right mindset to get some stuff crackin. I normally always have mad valium on hand but im fresh out and, in terrible timing, getting more in a few days. Got a bit of codeine though.

Thanks a bunch for the reply.

 

[kokaino]

So, I was able to get a hold of many Concerta pills in both 18mg and 36mg for free.

I only have one prior methylphenidate experience and that's having a few beers then insufflating 10mg Ritalin. Not much.

I have exams coming up so in an attempt to study I took one 36mg pill around 9:00am. By 10:30am I was feeling not a thing, just anxious to be at least a little productive (I'm a ridiculously massive procrastinator). So with a little googling I found help on how to open up the brutal Concerta pills.

I opened up an 18mg and snorted it. So bad to crush up, it was terrible. I've had cocaine that had moisture get to it be a lot easier than that haha. So I got another 18mg and when I got down to the good chunk of methylphenidate, I just popped it (empty stomach).

It's now about an hour after taking the two 18's and I definitely feel it. Alert and full of energy. I sense the relation to cocaine. But I'm still having a terrible time getting the motivation to study as opposed to lurking around these forums and the internet in general lmao. I can't really focus on one thing.

Probably try an amphetamine next time, but as I said these were free and readily available.

To anyone with methylphenidate experience, how long are the desired effects felt before the dreaded comedown? I think I read a few hours. But I already don't particularly like it hahaha.

Also... If anyone else has used MPH to study/get work done, what dosage do you like?

I'm sure dosages vary from person to person, not everyone is the same and not everyone has the same tolerance level. Person X might do just fine with 10 mg of methylphenidate, but Person Y needs at least 60 mg of the stuff.

Also, depending on your opiate tolerance, you might need more then just codeine to for the comedown. But if you're opiate naive, then codeine will be just fine.

 

[piebald]

10 -20 mgs of methylphenidate would be fine i think and yes prop will help you feel a bit better physically but it wont do anything mentally youll still be wired

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

The comedown usually appears after 3 1/2 hours of consumption. Possibly after just a few. Methylphenidate is very short acting. Propranolol will not help the comedown, leave it alone.

Methylphenidate doesn't make me productive and the dosage your looking for greatly varies depending upon tolerance. When I was non tolerant I'd usually begin to feel the stimulating effects from 40mg oral (instant release) and 20-30mg insufflated. Sustained release formulations like Concerta are completely ineffective for me.

Amphetamines and methylphenidate are cross tolerant so if I were to take methylphenidate today I'd need something around 80mg oral and 40mg insufflated because I take 30mg Adderall and 30mg Desoxyn together daily.

 

[Korn3x]

I notice the comedown a little after 2 hours if I snort it. I used to snort at least 30-40 mg at time, and this is when i was non-tolerant to stims. I do however have ADD so this could contribute to why it took me this much to reach desired effects. You may not have to take this much. The comedown is very bad however, much worse than coke.

I'll never forget the first time I did ritalin though. I ended up plugging something like 40mg, taking 40mg orally, and snorting 10 or something. I felt like my heart was going to beat out of my chest. I also had a very bad experience with focalin once (the D isomer of the methylphenidate molecule)

Be careful whenever you dose ritalin or focalin though via insufflation, because it doesn't take much to go from light euphoria to full on panic attacks and chaos.

 

[reflekt]

Sustained release formulations like Concerta are completely ineffective for me.

Yeah I didn't really give it too much time, perhaps the dose was too small, but doing surgery on the pill to get the good stuff ended up working for me.

I'll never forget the first time I did ritalin though. I ended up plugging something like 40mg, taking 40mg orally, and snorting 10 or something. I felt like my heart was going to beat out of my chest. I also had a very bad experience with focalin once (the D isomer of the methylphenidate molecule)

Be careful whenever you dose ritalin or focalin though via insufflation, because it doesn't take much to go from light euphoria to full on panic attacks and chaos.

Thats one craazzy first time there wow lol. Ya, I read that same thing somewhere about insufflation chaos with it. Good to know though.

Thanks you both for the replies. I consumed about 90mg this morning until just after 1:00pm. Seems like I didn't have much of a comedown apart from expected intense heart rate and some mild here-and-there headaches. Nothing bad though. Maybe I got lucky.

Definitely felt stimulated from this methylphenidate though, but didn't notice much of its explained effects.

 

[Korn3x]

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Ya for some reason i got a little confused on the dosing, and forgot to factor in that it's like 2x as potent when plugged or snorted. I was a freshman in college and was kind of spiraling down a dark path there for a little bit.

How are you taking the methylphenidate? If you're eating it, it's kind of a waste (unless of course you are trying to take it therapeutically in order to concentrate for your classes). I find plugging to be a waste too, as it gives you a rush, but it's more of a body-high rush and feeling.

If you're using it recreationally, the best way to achieve the maximum amount of euphoria is to snort it. Although do be aware that there are binders and fillers that will get in your lungs over time, and it's definitely not too good to be putting that stuff up your nasal cavity all the time. Try to keep it to a once in awhile kind of thing to keep the euphoria fresh.

Also realize that anything really above 30mg doesn't really add to the euphoria, so it's best to maybe do a bump of 20-30 mg at first, then do maybe 10mg bumps every hour or hour and a half or so. The euphoria is kind of subtle, and you kinda gotta pay attention to it in order to notice that it's there. Don't expect it to feel like pure coke or anything.

 

[reflekt]

^^
Ya for some reason i got a little confused on the dosing, and forgot to factor in that it's like 2x as potent when plugged or snorted. I was a freshman in college and was kind of spiraling down a dark path there for a little bit.

How are you taking the methylphenidate? If you're eating it, it's kind of a waste (unless of course you are trying to take it therapeutically in order to concentrate for your classes). I find plugging to be a waste too, as it gives you a rush, but it's more of a body-high rush and feeling.

If you're using it recreationally, the best way to achieve the maximum amount of euphoria is to snort it. Although do be aware that there are binders and fillers that will get in your lungs over time, and it's definitely not too good to be putting that stuff up your nasal cavity all the time. Try to keep it to a once in awhile kind of thing to keep the euphoria fresh.

Also realize that anything really above 30mg doesn't really add to the euphoria, so it's best to maybe do a bump of 20-30 mg at first, then do maybe 10mg bumps every hour or hour and a half or so. The euphoria is kind of subtle, and you kinda gotta pay attention to it in order to notice that it's there. Don't expect it to feel like pure coke or anything.

Today I snorted around 5-10mg, and it was such a bitch to do given that I was using annoying Concerta, so I just popped the rest. Ya, today I was using it therapeutically to help studying, and probably will do the same soon with a bunch of these laying around, but it's good to know in case I do give it a recreational shot.

I've had an experience snorting instant release ritalin a few months back and it was nice. Not much to really form a comparison though. I'll keep in mind the 30mg theory though, thanks. Ya, coke was definitely different.