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possible to use SALVIA DIVINORUM in a spiritual way

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SALVIA DIVINORUM : I never test it ---> when I see all the stupid "laugh" trip I'm wondering if it is really interesting : you just become like a real morron during 10 minutes (I've seen a lot of friend tripping with salvia --> only stupids laughs + stupid and freaky hallucinations even in very good psychological conditions, then I never use it but I'm still curious about this powerfull substance, I always had the role of THE "guardian")

Who had an interesting trip with this hallucinogenic substance ?? (I mean "constructive" hallucinations "to travel" in your mind and find some clues) which dosage was used for that ?

In fact, is it possible to use Salvia in a spiritual way ? with maybe a low dose (e.g 0.2g of Salvia 5X or simply dry leafs...) ?? Often new users start with Smoked "Salvia 40X" wich is completely stupid.

Thanks

Please if you'd never test Salvia yourself and just read articles about it; only see some friends tripping or watch videos on the web then, simply just not answer because you simply have no knowledge.
 
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Approach the plant with respect...meditate and center yourself before meeting...quiet, dim lit room, no distractions.

The natives who've used the plant for healing for thousands of years say it is disrespectful to put flame to it. Chew the fresh leaves, or prepare an infusion.

I have learned from the plant-spirit through smoking. But I will try the chewihg next time I meet with ska pastora.

If you're serious about learning, you should grow her. By sitting with the plant and giving it love you will develop a strong bond with the essence. I grew her for 3 yrs. Without harvesting out of respect. I would only collect the leaves she dropped for me. After I got to know her sitting beside the plant was a profound meeting and a beautiful catalyst to meditative trance.

You can pm if you'd like to learn of shamanistic plant-approaching or about meditatins. I practice daily and have done so for 7 yrs.

Best of blessings,
tUt
 
strange trip, not sure what i got out of it, can be ground breaking in a non-gradual way, beats an office job any day of the week though - more riveting then mundane trash, drivel
 
thoughtsUnThought said:
Approach the plant with respect...meditate and center yourself before meeting...quiet, dim lit room, no distractions.

The natives who've used the plant for healing for thousands of years say it is disrespectful to put flame to it. Chew the fresh leaves, or prepare an infusion.

I have learned from the plant-spirit through smoking. But I will try the chewihg next time I meet with ska pastora.

If you're serious about learning, you should grow her. By sitting with the plant and giving it love you will develop a strong bond with the essence. I grew her for 3 yrs. Without harvesting out of respect. I would only collect the leaves she dropped for me. After I got to know her sitting beside the plant was a profound meeting and a beautiful catalyst to meditative trance.

You can pm if you'd like to learn of shamanistic plant-approaching or about meditatins. I practice daily and have done so for 7 yrs.

Best of blessings,
tUt
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Quote for truth.

I find chewing the plain leaves to be plenty powerful enough. In fact I have found it more reliable in producing spiritual experiences than smoking.

And the experiences are like nothing I've had with other drugs or plants. Utterly other-worldly. Revealing of a true, wholly fascinating, nature. Beautiful and shocking.

Salvia is in amazing plant! Plus she grows so easily and is adaptable to climates. I am not exactly green fingered but I've kept at least five or six plants on the go for about 10 years, in Scotland, not exactly similar to her native Mexico. Indoors so far but I'd like to plant her out in the wild here. Just need to find somewhere where the frosts are not severe. Cuttings are so easy to make and propogate.
 
I'm not a hippy dude haha. I think that the most beneficial use for Salvia is to reaffirm awe.
There's more than one way to live, even inanimates experience, and Salvia shows that, irreconcilably differentiating reality.
Just live the life of a chair, then tell me you see things like you did before man, that is all haha.
 
This is my experience with salvia I was sitting on my truck bed and took two huge rips of 80x out of the bong as soon as i took the second hit my friend grabbed the bong out of my hand i was leaning forward while i was sitting on my bed, i fell face first on the concrete, i went into the most realistic worst dream of my life i was trying to get out of where i was and as i was running demons were pulling at me and evey time they pulled at me a little bit of my flesh came off with it, i eventually started coming out of it laying in the parking lot of the apartment, slowy the ground appeared and i could barely walk i thought to myself thank you lord i got out and im back i then started picking the gravel out of my mouth from when i went head first into the concrete. So for me it wasnt lauging or anything like that for those ten minutes i went unconscious and had the worst vision ever but it did give me some insight. I have taken 5 grams of mushrooms at once and it was no where near the experience salvia gave me. Yes salvia was very interesting and scary at the same time i felt like it was a epiphany that god was telling me if i didnt change my lifestyle then what i saw in that trip is how it would be for me for eternity. Before i did this i had experimented with the 5x and 10x and it just felt like the walls were closing in on me and when i tryed to walk it felt like i was tilted and could barely walk it was not a out of body experience like the 2 hits of 80x. I dont think it could be used in a spiratual way in a low dose but everyones opinion is different, doing what i did can put you more of where i think you want to go in more of a spiratual way, but for me it wasnt what i wanted to see and probably want do it again. Maybe if i clean up my act i might try it again and hope i will see angels instead of the monsters or demons whatever they were.
 
^ good read, brave too !

might take a deeper dive into the maria pastora, kinda tired of the 5HT2A

as for the original post, i think if you are looking to use it in a spiritual way, you should look into the mexican mazatecs; they have been eating it for what may be thousands of years, their practice of hallucinogens tends to be more spiritually inclined then the practices of western cultures
 
I've done salvia four-five times (always smoked, though I tried a quick buccal go once. Didn't do anything to me) and have only had one or two POWERFUL experiences. However, I never could glean anything meaningful from it. It just seemed like thought processes were non-existant, and it was so damn fast. Plus, the imagery was weird, and constantly changing, so it was hard to make meaning out of it. Any suggestions for more efficient uses of an extract for therapeutic/shamanic experiences? Seeing as how it's a very small amount of material.
 
I have tried Salvia but not as a tincture or quid for buccal administration. But I do believe that smoking it makes the experience go much too fast, I have a similar opinion about DMT: there are better ways to take much more away from the potential of these sacraments. For DMT taking it orally with a MAOI seems to be the solution, or taking 4-AcO-DMT as an analog that creates a much more dilated experience that allows for much more in-depth divination / entheogenic experience.

With Salvia I would personally make a tincture and explore that by titrating up slowly and using the exact same way of using it every time. Cleaning your mouth with alcohol to get rid of dead skin cells in the cheeks is a first good step, then swooshing the tincture in your mouth and letting it sit under the tongue and on the surface of your inner cheeks is the subsequent way to use the method, AFAIK.
 
Worth noting for anyone that is about to chew a quid - the leaves STAIN your mouth and teeth badly. It will go away after a day or two but I got a shock when I checked in the mirror the morning after an evening quid.
 
Good info to know ^^ I once attempted to make a quid during the middle of third period and it tasted so incredibly horrendous (it was whole leaf) that I spat it out after about 15 minutes. No effects, but no staining.
 
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lol Salvia at school is not respecting her at all.

I'm guilty of a similar transgression, I admit; Smoked a bowl of 20x in the bathroom stall at work when I first started using her. Baaaaaad vibes man, she rightly bitchslapped me.
 
Agreed, but I've since had two worth-while experiences and gained much more respect. Probably the only drug I didn't fully respect, and I was put in my place. 8)
 
Of course it is possible to use Salvia in a spiritual way. It's one of my closest plant allies--I find it immensely spiritually helpful to me. There is a happy medium. You can do too much, where it will just be overwhelming and confusing. I get the most out of the experience when I don't "break through." Set and setting is extremely important, as always. Bedroom, alone or with sitter, clear the space of clutter and sharp objects. Dark silence, or listen to something extremely repetitive. Do not do it in a party atmosphere. If you ask for wisdom, you will receive.

Salvia is a tool, or another way of thinking and seeing. It is simply a change of perspective. It is not a thing. It is like a lens you put on for a few minutes. For me it's not about the elves or conveyor belts or gravity or whatever, it is about what I learn about my consciousness and subconscious while in this headspace.
 
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