Opioids poppy teas effects are different for me everytime. Anyone very experienced with PT?

[lnfamous]

this is my first post so if im not following the rules with something then sorry. Theres poppies growing everywhere around my city and im in no doubt that theyre somniferums. I have done plenty of research. But I dont have much experience making tea. in the past month ive made tea about 5 times. One or two of the times i actually felt the onset (im very familiar with opiates) of the opiate buzz throughout my body and in my head, followed by the nice relaxed feeling afterward. But every other time i dont feel any onset and then about 2 hours later ill all the sudden be so tired and nodding out i cant stay awake. But that feeling isnt combined with a good euphoric feeling, im just super tired and thats it. Ive tried it with and without lemon juice, ive tried it in a coffee brewer and in just a bottle with warm water and shaken, and ive tried the pod putty. which the putty just made me super tired also with no euphoria. Im starting to think that poppy tea isnt as easy as people state online. I mean its easy to do but im wondering if theres a way of perfecting it. Does anyone have any long experience they can share? I did read that thread "mamas secret recipe" and it states

Some people hate the taste of tea so much that they boil it down into putty(puddy). Mamma discourages this greatly as she feels that the boiling process gets rid of the euphoric alkaloids and leaves the narcotic alkaloids. Albeit, you only have to swallow a little ball of tar, the high is greatly altered often being more heavy, narcotic and very angry (for mamma)"

k i dont know how to change my font back.... Anyways that was relieving to read cus its not just me then, but out of all the threads ive read thats the only time ive ever read about someone else noticing what ive also noticed. Most the tea ive made has caused more of that narcotic feeling though so im hoping to just learn and understand what it is that causes that true opiate feeling vs just the drowsiness. Any info would be nice

 

[alexvolume2]

I never got to use pods, but I've eaten a fuck ton of seeds. Tea rather.

I used hot but not boiling water along with the juice of a couple of lemons added to an empty bottle, and shook it. I have also had success using same temp water, lemon or lime juice, and a french press. Grapefruit juice works too, but I find water works best although grapefruit juice will potentiate it best if drank an hour beforehand. Grind the pods in a coffee grinder if you use the french press method. I find acidity to make a lot of difference.

 

[tacodude]

Why not score the pods so they ooz in the morning and collect it up later? Just don't be obvious about it and leave much more for others than you take.

Edit: They may also just have no content. Darker color is usually better although you can't tell until it's dry I think.... I'm not experienced

 

[lnfamous]

i dont use boiling water either i just use warm water out of the tap. And tacodude i would score pods if they were my pods lol. I pull them out of the groud and take them home, and u cant score after u pulled from the ground. And also most are dead and dried out this time of year. I only found 1 live plant so far and like 5 dead ones.

 

[tacodude]

Harvest seeds and grow your own? Find some tall grass or plant that grows overhead in massive fields and spread the seeds there. Anywhere out of sight where they can grow. Trust me collecting opium is way more worth it

 

[spacejunk]

^ in what way? Yields of opium latex are so low that you need a lot of plants for even a few doses.
Also, poppies won't grow when they are competing with surrounding plants for water or sunlight. Anything growing overhead will stunt poppy growth.

The best method IME is grinding/blending/crushing the pods and eating the pod grinds.
I used to use a blender to make the pods and liquid (I used to use citrus juice for taste) into a 'tea' or more accurately a 'soup'.
A cold soup - as I didn't heat it.
I would drink the soup/tea/whatever you want to call it, and wash the solid pod grinds down as I drank it.
This saves fucking around with methods to try and get the most from extractions, as your digestive system will do that for you.

Euphoria, as with any drug (more or less) is dependent on set and setting, as well as biological factors that are a bit difficult to predict.

Sounds to me though that you are taking more than you need, if it is essentially sedating you.
Opium can be a lot heavier feeling than something more stimulating like oxycodone - but it depends on the poppies.

Just be careful to dose low to begin with, as drinking too much pod tea is a very unpleasant, drawn out experience.
It sounds like you're dosing a bit higher than you are comfortable with as it is.

If you want to avoid puking and being incredibly sick for at least 24 hours (due to long half life of opium alkaloids) - consume it slowly and wait for effects to be felt before you redose.

If you are finding that when it kicks in (2-3 hours is not at all uncommon for pod tea btw) it is too heavy and you are nodding, you're probably taking more than you need to get where you want to be.
I would suggest taking half or 2/3rds that amount and consuming it slowly.

Maybe even dose less than that, if you try the method I mention above, as grinding and ingesting the pod pulp is the most efficient way to use pods.

 

[lnfamous]

thats the last thing i havent tried and i been thinkiing about it. Im just thinking that eating them would taste nasty. I also read that its possible im dosing too high so maybe ill try less. Its funny cus the only time it truly felt like opiates (euphoria in head and body, a nice energy boost, warm and comfy) is when i used only 3 pods not thinking they would even do anything. I just figured if i want to be sure to get high then ill use a lot and besides that one time ive used 10 - 15 pods every other time. Also your right about the next morning (about 8 hours later) at work i was nodding out still and i puked. i just dont understand if i get no euphoria off 10 pods but will from maybe 5 pods? Im just going to try eating them. My experiences seriously feel like ambien, as in no good body high or happy feeling, just all the sudden super tired and definitely a change in my head. Almost feel like im in a dream state to where the next day i dont remember it as well as i normally would. Its just wierd that i can feel that dreamy feeling slowly creep but it definitely doesnt feel like opiates creeping how they normally do. thanks for the info guys ill just try eating a few and post back soon. How many do u normally eat? the ones i get are about the size of a quarter - size of a ping pong maybe.

 

[Kilfer]

I used to get a nice opiate buzz going from poppy seed tea but the horrible taste finally got the best of me. The best way was not to use the flower (unless you had like 200) but imported seeds from Turkey or India sold in "ethnic" fruit and vegetable stores. The potent seeds were easy to spot thanks to their shiny blueish hew, sort of like high-grade coal. I was told those seeds all come from a same variant of the somniferum family instead of the mixed-bag grey or dark black seeds which are collected from just about any poppy plant and are hit-or-miss for tea. Middle Eastern pastry bakers like the the blue ones for their reflective quality and thus create a market for them wherever they settle. It's slightly more expensive but worth the 3 or 4 extra bucks for a pound. Unfortunately they taste just as bad as the others though

 

[spacejunk]

thats the last thing i havent tried and i been thinkiing about it. Im just thinking that eating them would taste nasty. I also read that its possible im dosing too high so maybe ill try less. Its funny cus the only time it truly felt like opiates (euphoria in head and body, a nice energy boost, warm and comfy) is when i used only 3 pods not thinking they would even do anything. I just figured if i want to be sure to get high then ill use a lot and besides that one time ive used 10 - 15 pods every other time. Also your right about the next morning (about 8 hours later) at work i was nodding out still and i puked. i just dont understand if i get no euphoria off 10 pods but will from maybe 5 pods? Im just going to try eating them. My experiences seriously feel like ambien, as in no good body high or happy feeling, just all the sudden super tired and definitely a change in my head. Almost feel like im in a dream state to where the next day i dont remember it as well as i normally would. Its just wierd that i can feel that dreamy feeling slowly creep but it definitely doesnt feel like opiates creeping how they normally do. thanks for the info guys ill just try eating a few and post back soon. How many do u normally eat? the ones i get are about the size of a quarter - size of a ping pong maybe.

Yeah, drop your dose!
You're definitely taking too much if that is what you are experiencing.
It's pretty impossible to recommend a dosage in "x amount of pods" - but I'd say 10-15 of the size you mention is definitely too many.
Start low - they can be deceptively potent; even if it's not like the instant intensity of pharmaceutical opiates, pods have a slow burning high that can be too much for too long if you have more than you need.
Poppies have a slower come-up and come-down due to the amount of different alkaloids that have to be metabolised. It's different to taking a single isolated narcotic.

 

[Shellnewman]

Hey all. I'm new to the whole pst also. From what I'm reading buying poppy seeds from the super market is not the go anymore? Just made my first brew today. Thought I would be lucky as what I was reading online most poppy seeds are famed here in Australia. Well in Tasmania anyways. But not so sure anymore :/

 

[lnfamous]

ok well i think i figured it out. out of all the batches of poppies ive grabbed, only one batch had the strong bitterness to it. it was maybe only like 7 pods but it was waay different then the 15 or so pods i brewed. im pretty positive all the ones ive got so far have been somniferum, i can definitely tell the difference, but none have been very bitter except for this one batch. Do morphine content vary that much, or is there species that look identical to somniferums but actually arent? All the pods ive got are dead and dried up but are there other species that are 3 - 5 feet and have that lettuce look to the foliage. i see quite a bit of rhoes around but id never mistake those for somnis. So i think i havent been gettin much opium with my experiences but maybe was just getting really tired from the other akaloids, idk. im gonna start eating a pod before i brew to know how potent it is from now on. The bitterness such a good way to judge. thanks guys