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Poppy Seed Tea...

I dont know what a poise it but i suppose i could make a large funnell with just paper. by cutting a large circle then cutting to the middle & sliding together (much like ya make a cone peace from the foil from a cigarette pack when ya dont have a proper one). i dont know..
the stocking is a good idea.

still think my idea is better. but seeds in a large container with a lid. add water. & than pur it through a strainer into a large bowl. then u can sqeeze the seeds with ya hands over the strainer. & u can simply wash the strainer without making a mess.

do u think that the darker the seeds the better?

it tasted nasty so i probably wont try it again. I dont know.
codeine is pharm grade & cleaner. PST contains other unwasted substances & would make ya more sick in the stomach.
 
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I dont know what a poise.



a state of balance or equilibrium

I havn't really noticed much difference in the potency depending on colour, but they may be as i am just unobservant by nature

I am sure my process is flawed but it works for me, i can do it in the morning whilst getting ready to work, pour the liquid into one of those stainless steal coffee mugs and on the train i go!

The taste certainly leaves something to be desired
 
just remember that in 2003 somone ods on PST taking 1.5855 grams or 3.5 lbs or PST. He had consumed around 500mg of morphine.

Im sure these must have been unwashed seeds though, but still be carefull.

it's also noted on wiki that grape fruit juice can potentiate the morphine.

this would make for a discusting mix of drinks. best to stick with clean old codeine where ya can make an approx dose

bottle of rikodeine, PST, CWE, DPH combo. OTC heroin. ud be throwin up & shitting all over the place though
 
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*edit*

Deleted my off topic post now that I'm more 'alert'...

Sorry! :|
 
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what did wazza right? was it something mean against PST users?
i dont think its as bad a rikodeine (u get to nod out on the toilet). definetely not as bad as benadryl.

so is there anyone else game to try out PST?
(I could see how doing PST could be looked down upon)

isnt there a certain unwanted alkaloid in PST that's in higher concentration compared to da real stuff? (pods)

I dunno why i even care. Codeine is seriously way better
 
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It was a pretty good post, but off topic. ;)

I'm not going to try poppy seed tea, my tolerance is too high and I've tried it before with little success.
 
what did wazza right? was it something mean against PST users?
i dont think its as bad a rikodeine (u get to nod out on the toilet). definetely not as bad as benadryl.

so is there anyone else game to try out PST?
(I could see how doing PST could be looked down upon)

isnt there a certain unwanted alkaloid in PST that's in higher concentration compared to da real stuff? (pods)

I dunno why i even care. Codeine is seriously way better

Nah wasn't "mean" in the angry sense, "mean" in the jealous sense. My GP got a presciption sent to me unawares which I got yesterday. 180 X 80mg oxycodone tablets, repeats of 60 being able to be picked up every 20 days. He's going through a divorce and is 'giving up" on commuting down to my side of Vic from where he lives in inner city Melbourne (3+ hr drive both ways of late) so he got my script authorised and sent to me as he isn't "down here" much now, like 1 day every 1-2 weeks. I was so surprised of this, I just posted a pic of the script and was posting in a WAY HAPPY surprised manner.

And then just said "hey, who needs PST" when you get (stupid) amounts of OC mailed to you at your convienance blah blah. Might make some users of this thread think I was 'boasting' and putting down PST.

That said, I did some personal testing and grew some pods so I was able to brew my own PST for a while as a supplement to my pain meds, and at present, I'm seriously trying to cut down the amount of OC daily use due to thoughts of long time use (albeit, needed for pain relief), and I get this "jackpot" in the mail. I'm definitely not going to go through the 60 tabs in 20 days, I do want to remember my days of Cassie growing up (She's 1.5 yrs old atm), plus second due in 2 months.

Anyway, hope that post is in a better 'light' in relation to PST. I don't condemn PST but man, why can't the government actually CARE and see that people _WILL USE_ and instead of 'backyard labs' making any + all types of illicit drugs, let people seriously get government reviewed + backed into having pharm quality drugs of the counterparts made in illicit ways. The local chemist opened 5 minutes ago and I didn't rush down to hand my script in, I still have my last months supply due for 'renewal' in a week+.

*must be strong*

*must be strong* I chant to myself! :|

awww waza your posts are always welcomed! At least bump the tattoo thread over in Aus Social once you have your latest work finished. You have some really interesting ink :)


Heh, I took 3 pics this morning with a flash in the darkness of morning, need to wait for sunshine to get my latest work, got say half of my lower leg (below knew) tattooed recently in a few sessions, the latest being y/day. I'll definitely bump that thread today when I get the pics taken + upped to net.


Also, someone said in an earlier post about grapefruit juice as potentiating (and being a disgusting drink mix), remember, it's taken BEFORE opiate consumption (plus other methods) such as "tagamet" with an antacid 45 mins later then opiates taken 15 mins after that rule of thumb, quick example I found from here is http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=484290 . Also, grapefruit juice potentiating, I don't know 100% it's set in stone as working, it may extend time for peak due to slowing metabolism of whatever opiate(s)??

I personally use DLPA (D-L Phenylalanine) to potentate my OC so after 5 years of almost daily use, I'm probably taking 50%ish (even less?) of OC doses for pain relief as DLPA really really helps me to potentate OC. I've done numerous tests of my OC doses with and without DLPA, doses with DLPA (taken before) the OC working inside of me has ALWAYS had a fair bit stronger feeling, almost about 100% the feeling using non scientific methods of guesstimating :)

Also check http://opioids.com/opiates/index.html (hope posting that link is ok?) for a little info of the potentate for opiates (mixed in with other info)

Ok, I'm off to be a daddy for the day and possibly take pics of my new tattoos to put in AusSocial 'soon'.

Once again, RIP Lagger, I knew him personally, it's hitting me hard each time I think of him... :(
 
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what i would for some oxy right now, time for benzo's weed sleep

if i had the energy i would try a CWE but i don't think my brain is functioning well enough not to make some mixture that would destry my liver
 
Not sure why anyone would care what people think about you taking PST...most of the general public would lose their shit over a cold water extraction see you as some kind of drug addict/possible drug manufacturer.

Wazza - Did you have any luck with making poppy seed tea from your home grown pods? I tried it with my harvest last year and it had literally -zero- effects compared to good quality wholesale bought poppy seeds.

For anyone who doubts poppy seed tea I just usually point them to this -

pst.jpg


What their hunch is, or what their few experiences indicate can't really stand up to a proper laboratory test.

Main things influencing peoples poor experiences is tolerance and inability to find decent seeds. I probably would have never tried it or bothered to find potent seeds if a friend hadn't had shouted me a glass one time.

Good PST and pods I find to be literally indistinguishable.
 
Not sure why anyone would care what people think about you taking PST...most of the general public would lose their shit over a cold water extraction see you as some kind of drug addict/possible drug manufacturer.

Wazza - Did you have any luck with making poppy seed tea from your home grown pods? I tried it with my harvest last year and it had literally -zero- effects compared to good quality wholesale bought poppy seeds.

Good PST and pods I find to be literally indistinguishable.

I found the pod experiences (I tried a few ways) to be overall a 'lot' better than PST but I've only done PST (with seeds) 2-3 times. I always had a mild affect, probably for me, my tolerance induced judgement was '20-40mg' OC feel (taken as directed, not crushed/chewed).

With the pod teas, I probably felt 80mg - 100/120mg feel, it's all VERY subjective, I'd need to be able to get 'high' from the teas but I couldn't get high due to daily use/tolerance I have from pain relief use but as stated, that's the OC mg I'd compare to to at 'best guess' and I feel I have diminished feelings of OC (I've stated in other posts/threads, morphine in hospital as NEVER given me enough to say I 'feel' it in a few hospital surgery experiences and this was way before ever experiencing any opiate whether medical or recreational use/consumption)

Various ways of pod tea was, grinding up the whole pod and about 5inches of the stalk. Other ways were grinding up just the pod and the 'connection bit under it, cbf looking up the name. I also tried freshly taken pods from the ground and also air dried for 2+ weeks.

The methods of tea were, putting ground up produce into 2 re-usable teabags in water ranging from hot, warm, tepid/mild to cold tea, seep for 1-12 hours in diff tests. Most gave the same overall feel, the '80-120mg' OC feel (may be 200-300mg OC consumption for someone 'normal' possibly? I REALLY need to see if my metabolism of various opiates/opiods is diminished compared to 'normal' people.

I also had a cocktail shaker with produce and roughly 500ml water (warm to fairly hot), Oh, ALL water with some bottled lemon juice or freshly squeezed lemon juice in it. And use a stocking pulled over the top and poured into a cup 2-3 times to be dranked after shaken + seeped for 1-4 hours.

Most of the methods produced similar feelings but also a 'ok' time of 'just' a few hours as opposed stuff I've read of "all day" for strong PST/pod tea. But also, I genuinely feel EVERY time pain relief/feeling of "12 hour" OC time released tabs get me back to baseline feeling (i.e feeling before taking OC) roughly 5ish hours with no further 'feeling' of the OC, this is from single use "test days" here and there over the 5 years of my pain which haves me need pain relief drugs for well, pain relief so I have some quality of life.

Anyway, I must be off, our daughter went back to bed for 1-2 hrs after breaky this morning, I just heard her stir, mum went back to bed, she's 7 months pregnant and usually tired so I do Mr Mum (and dad) often as needed, hence the somewhat heavy/prolonged OC use as I NEED OC most times I 'move about' or else I'm sweating literally due to the pain it's inducing in my 'busted shoulder' from my injury.

I take tramal roughly 5am, back to bed, wake 6:40-7:30 depending when our daughter wakes, I help breaky, I 'hang out' until we plan to go to pool for my hydrotherapy/pool play with our daughter while my wife does water aerobics, I seem to be ok for pain whilst in water, then after, I start to get SORE from movement so hence usual first OC is taken here, sometimes before pool if Im having a 'bad day' (Im still FCKN sore after 2-3 hrs of tramal 200mg time release tab taken), then I take DLPA, 1/2 hr-1 hr later, I feel good enough to do 'stuff', such as clean at home, or we go out (shopping, playing with daughter somewhere, whatever) and/or as of late, I do job 'stuff', I'm recently wanting to try [some] work as I feel in a place where I can work 3-4ish hrs a day as my OC routine kinda assures me I'm "fairly" pain free without being 'high' from OC consumption.

So, that's my usual day, I sometimes ride the mbike if I feel 'good' or 'have to' as it helps me with my injury, takes 'pressure' off my injured arm since it's standing/moving/gravity which HURTS to do and sitting on mbike has me "put" my bad shoulder in place due to seating position etc. I just don't PUSH myself riding unless I have planned the day (extra OC) so I can 'use' my shoulder and not be bloody sore, not at least my 3-6 hrs is up which is by time dinner happens, so post dinner is quiet time and relax til bed, sometimes I take sleep meds due to either pain and/or 'just can't sleep' insomnia happens.

There ya go, my life and pain meds in a nutshell :p
 
Can totally understand people not bothering with PST :) finding the 'holy grail' seeds with high levels of alkaloids can be not worth the time/effort.

Found an interesting article on poppy seeds. It's from germany, talks about a case where a baby was given 200 grams in tea to 'settle' it and had adverse reactions :\

Talks about the levels of alkaloids of german poppy seeds and goes on to mention Australia in a short snippet.

Possible causes of high alkaloid levels in poppy seeds

The possible causes of high opiate levels sometimes found in poppy seeds include the use of less appropriate botanical varieties and an unfavourable time of harvesting as well as certain geographical origins. For example, it is a striking fact that high morphine concentrations are frequently found in seeds originating from Australia.

Another basic problem seems to consist in the contamination of poppy seeds with capsule fragments and latex both containing alkaloids. Thus, morphine levels could be drastically reduced by washing of the seeds. It has been assumed that the elevated morphine levels presently found in poppy seeds are to be attributed to newly introduced mechanical harvesting techniques

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslxs8o//af_opinion_16thmeet_en_14a1.pdf

That would explain why my seeds from home grown poppies don't give anywhere near the effects of good batches purchased in bulk.

Lots of poppy seedlings popping up this weekend :D Going to try and refine my growing methods this year and try purifying some opium, since I didn't care much for the 'raw' stuff.
 
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