Poppy Seed Tea...

[Christ!]

Never had any luck with Hoyts, although I heard people getting good effects from that brand years ago.

 

[Anon54]

fuck, i wish there was a way of removing the sorbital from rikodeine.
(There HAS to be a way of doing this. ppl make meth, mdma, lsd ffs. but nobody can figure out ho to remove sorbital?)

straight DHC would be far better than PST or CWE

 

[Beat Narrative]

Never had any luck with Hoyts, although I heard people getting good effects from that brand years ago.

I alwyas thought hoyts were a waste of time but last week made a 1500gram batch and was nodding off at my desk at work, not a good look but relaxing all the same!

 

[Anon54]

can u just mix it with all lemon juice? why add water?
how long do u guys think its a good amount of time to shake the bottle?

the pods are obviously ilegal in aus. even for orniment.
in america. ya can like buy em from the internet legaly i think

 

[titstypedthis]

fuck, i wish there was a way of removing the sorbital from rikodeine.
(There HAS to be a way of doing this. ppl make meth, mdma, lsd ffs. but nobody can figure out ho to remove sorbital?)

straight DHC would be far better than PST or CWE

Have a look at DXM extractions from syrup...

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Someone in OD posted up an extraction of morphine from syrup as well.

 

[Anon54]

Have a look at DXM extractions from syrup...

im not achemist. im only skilled enough to do CWE. how difficult is the process. ya probably need substances that are hard to come buy & lab equipment.

so, is it an easy method, or is it more advanced for ya average BLer?

 

[titstypedthis]

honestly i don't know i've never done it or really looked at it ... google it and decide for yourself..

I mean, i know its not overly difficult, you could definitely do it in your kitchen with stuff from woolies or coles and maybe the hardware store.

 

[Anon54]

ok i took the plunge & tried it 2nite. just dosed an hr ago and yeah its working
600g i mixed in a large empty milo tin with water, stired than put it through a strainer into a suacepan. made several glasses full of the stuff.
did notice a slight typical opiate taste but the poppy sead taste wasnt appealing.

I wont be repeating this experience i was just curious. this high isnt worth the hassle and a box of codeine costs the same price. not to mention how unpredictable the dose is & i wouldnt mess with higher doses due to the other alkaloids making the morphine/codeine dirty.
i'll stick with 400mg codeine. seems to have a better rush but its only been an hr maybe it'll come on stronger hopefully.

& im not doin DHC. unless its a tiny sip for a cough or something. im sure u can guess why.

but yeah codeine is pretty good stuff. I actually didnt find oxy that much better seriously but i already had a tolerance to codeine when I was lucky enough to get scripted OCS.

how much oxy u rekon 400mg codeine feels like iyo?

 

[Beat Narrative]

ok i took the plunge & tried it 2nite. just dosed an hr ago and yeah its working
600g i mixed in a large empty milo tin with water, stired than put it through a strainer into a suacepan. made several glasses full of the stuff.
did notice a slight typical opiate taste but the poppy sead taste wasnt appealing.

I wont be repeating this experience i was just curious. this high isnt worth the hassle and a box of codeine costs the same price. not to mention how unpredictable the dose is & i wouldnt mess with higher doses due to the other alkaloids making the morphine/codeine dirty.
i'll stick with 400mg codeine. seems to have a better rush but its only been an hr maybe it'll come on stronger hopefully.

& im not doin DHC. unless its a tiny sip for a cough or something. im sure u can guess why.

but yeah codeine is pretty good stuff. I actually didnt find oxy that much better seriously but i already had a tolerance to codeine when I was lucky enough to get scripted OCS.

how much oxy u rekon 400mg codeine feels like iyo?

I can't seem to master CWE and find PST so simple, i wake up at 6am, make up some let it sit for an hour go back to bed, spend an hour drinking it and off to work for a day of mild euphoria and tolerance of my colleagues

Perfect, plus theres no questions about buying poppy seeds where as faking a tooth ache or justifying my need for codeine to a pharmacist is a nuisance

 

[Anon54]

I can't seem to master CWE and find PST so simple, i wake up at 6am, make up some let it sit for an hour go back to bed, spend an hour drinking it and off to work for a day of mild euphoria and tolerance of my colleagues

Perfect, plus theres no questions about buying poppy seeds where as faking a tooth ache or justifying my need for codeine to a pharmacist is a nuisance

here is the best way to do CWE
use 60mL if ya usin 24 pak panadeine xtras (help crush it up in the water but it will generally all dissolve even without crushing)
use 100mL if ya usin 40 pak chemists own pain tablets (these basically dissolve as soon as they touch the water & ya give it a stir)

put in freezer for half an hr.

take out of freezer, stir mixture.

place a hanky over a bowl & pour mixture over the hanky. fold up the sides of the hanky & sqeeze akk the water out)

its a good idea to wet the hanky (& sqeeze it so its just a bit wet) first so the codeine doesnt dissolve into the hanky.

u can see all the paracetamol as a dry solid trapped by the hanky.

uve now got 90%+ of the paracetamol out already.

its bascailly safe to drink the water without a second filter if ya only using like 10 panadeine forts or something but if ya usin likem 40 pills or something u should do a second filter just to be safe. ( i always do a second filter)

now after the 1st filter the coffee filter wont get clogged up with the paracetamol. ccuz uve goten rid of basically all of it just from usin the squeezin the water through the hanky.
(dont forgive to wet the filter with cold water to stop it obsorbing the codeine)

if the filter stops dripping it mite be clogged (or it tend to slow down after theres not much water left to go through becase it doesnt have the heavy weight of all the water to push it down, so pour the liquid into another filter. or u can sqeeze the filter making sure u dont rip the filter. (the water should be practically clear)
& if your paranoid about there being paracetamol in ya solution than try doing a test. try adding a single panadol into 100mL of water. I makes it turn white/opaque)
so as long as the water isnt white as the water is when ya add a single panadol it must have less than 500mg. its impossible for there to be more than 1gram of paracetamol in cold water anyway without it falling to the bottom due to solubility

the best way to cheak how much codeine u got is to compare the amount of water u oringally used to how much u end up with.

if i start with 100mL of water I always end up with atleast 95mL+ of water ready to drink (so i always get over 95% of the codeine.


the reason why ppl fuck up the cold water extraction is because they dont do a quick first filter with a hanky or some kind of cloth & than the coffee filters get all clogged up.


that took me a long time to rite this beat narrative so i hope your gratful & use this useful wisdom!!!

 

[drug_mentor]

^ While I do wholeheartedly believe in CWE's effectiveness when performed properly, especially in regards to paracetamol/codeine formulations, I do not think that adding a panadol to water and comparing it to your solution is that reasonable of a test. A panadol is not entirely comprised of paracetamol and you could probably have a clearer solution that contained more paracetamol, perhaps I am wrong.

 

[Christ!]

^ While I do wholeheartedly believe in CWE's effectiveness when performed properly, especially in regards to paracetamol/codeine formulations, I do not think that adding a panadol to water and comparing it to your solution is that reasonable of a test. A panadol is not entirely comprised of paracetamol and you could probably have a clearer solution that contained more paracetamol, perhaps I am wrong.

If the solution is at a low temperature, where paracetamol can't dissolve - Clearness of the solution is an ok indicator as a rough guide in the case of a CWE.

Comparing your filtered solution to a regular paracetamol tablet dissolved in water won't tell you anything though. (Except that water turns somewhat cloudy when you add a tablet containing paracetamol)

Good method though Anon, a double filter is definitely recommended when you're working with larger amounts. You're right that measuring the amount of liquid is a good indicator of what % of codeine you got

Mr.Blonde was going to do an experiment to try and find out how much paracetamol is left in the filtered solution, not sure if he's had time to do it yet though. I think it's pretty important we get some sort of idea how much paracetamol we're ingesting from the average CWE. Surprised someone somewhere hasn't done a proper lab test...would probably take someone dieing from paracetamol overdose for this to happen though

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Yeah I haven't had enough time... been working 6 day weeks lately.

The extraction of DXM involves clear ammonia (non-sudsy), napthalene and lemon juice. I had a hard time finding non-sudsy ammonia when I was looking for it a long time ago. I think that ammonia has around the same polarity (or at least dielectric constant) as isopropanol so maybe that could substitute. IPA in pure form is easy to get a hold of.

 

[Anon54]

^ Yeah I haven't had enough time... been working 6 day weeks lately.

The extraction of DXM involves clear ammonia (non-sudsy), napthalene and lemon juice. I had a hard time finding non-sudsy ammonia when I was looking for it a long time ago. I think that ammonia has around the same polarity (or at least dielectric constant) as isopropanol so maybe that could substitute. IPA in pure form is easy to get a hold of.

Id like to know how much of the apap is cought with the first quick filter throuh a hanky. when all the water is squeezed out tightly there is a dry lump of apap which could be weighed.
when ya do the 2nd filter with coffee filter, it ony catches a tiny bit more apap. so the hanky defenetely gets practically all of it.

what i dont understand is why the hanky catches only approx 95% & doesnt capter all the apap? this confuses me. must be something do do with most of the apap cystalizing or something i dont understand well.
anyways its irelevent but I would love someone to explain this to me.

yeah & when u add a few panadols to 100mL of water u can seee solids floating around for a while & than u can see it fall to the bottom to make a small layer. & the water itself is alot whiter than my final CWE.

 

[Mr Blonde]

what i dont understand is why the hanky catches only approx 95% & doesnt capter all the apap? this confuses me. must be something do do with most of the apap cystalizing or something i dont understand well.

For a start, because approximately 1 gram of APAP dissolves in 100mL of room temperature water.

Secondly, some of that acetaminophen is suspended in solution and passes through the filter especially if it is not a lab grade filter.

Cooling down the water can help reduce the amount that dissolves, but I never worry about doing that.

yeah & when u add a few panadols to 100mL of water u can seee solids floating around for a while & than u can see it fall to the bottom to make a small layer. & the water itself is alot whiter than my final CWE.

Possibly whiter because there are more binders and fillers still in solution compared to a filtered product.

Id like to know how much of the apap is cought with the first quick filter throuh a hanky. when all the water is squeezed out tightly there is a dry lump of apap which could be weighed.

To do it properly, I'd weigh a tablet and figure out the amount of binders and fillers in it. Then weigh the APAP left over, and weigh the evaporated CWE product then use the ratios to figure it out.

 

[Anon54]

Mr Blond when im talkin about not understanding why the hanky only catches approx 95% of the apap & now all of it, Im obviously refering to the insoluble apap!!!

ok so some of the apap is suspended? what does this mean. it's not crystalized with the rest & has alot smaller particals which get through the hanky??

just weigh all the tablets, do a quick filter with a hanky/cloth & weight the dry apap. ofcourse u than have to minus the amount of codeine that added up throughout the pills..
can somebody who has a scale try to do this? im cirious how much apap ya get out though the first filter

 

[Beat Narrative]

here is the best way to do CWE
use 60mL if ya usin 24 pak panadeine xtras (help crush it up in the water but it will generally all dissolve even without crushing)
use 100mL if ya usin 40 pak chemists own pain tablets (these basically dissolve as soon as they touch the water & ya give it a stir)

put in freezer for half an hr.

take out of freezer, stir mixture.

place a hanky over a bowl & pour mixture over the hanky. fold up the sides of the hanky & sqeeze akk the water out)

its a good idea to wet the hanky (& sqeeze it so its just a bit wet) first so the codeine doesnt dissolve into the hanky.

u can see all the paracetamol as a dry solid trapped by the hanky.

uve now got 90%+ of the paracetamol out already.

its bascailly safe to drink the water without a second filter if ya only using like 10 panadeine forts or something but if ya usin likem 40 pills or something u should do a second filter just to be safe. ( i always do a second filter)

now after the 1st filter the coffee filter wont get clogged up with the paracetamol. ccuz uve goten rid of basically all of it just from usin the squeezin the water through the hanky.
(dont forgive to wet the filter with cold water to stop it obsorbing the codeine)

if the filter stops dripping it mite be clogged (or it tend to slow down after theres not much water left to go through becase it doesnt have the heavy weight of all the water to push it down, so pour the liquid into another filter. or u can sqeeze the filter making sure u dont rip the filter. (the water should be practically clear)
& if your paranoid about there being paracetamol in ya solution than try doing a test. try adding a single panadol into 100mL of water. I makes it turn white/opaque)
so as long as the water isnt white as the water is when ya add a single panadol it must have less than 500mg. its impossible for there to be more than 1gram of paracetamol in cold water anyway without it falling to the bottom due to solubility

the best way to cheak how much codeine u got is to compare the amount of water u oringally used to how much u end up with.

if i start with 100mL of water I always end up with atleast 95mL+ of water ready to drink (so i always get over 95% of the codeine.


the reason why ppl fuck up the cold water extraction is because they dont do a quick first filter with a hanky or some kind of cloth & than the coffee filters get all clogged up.


that took me a long time to rite this beat narrative so i hope your gratful & use this useful wisdom!!!

I appreciate the time you have taken, i have the day off work tomorrow so will go to my local chemist give them the spiel about having an unberable tooth ache get some panadeine extra and give it a shot, will follow your instructions like it's a recipe!

cheers!

 

[belarki]

I appreciate the time you have taken, i have the day off work tomorrow so will go to my local chemist give them the spiel about having an unberable tooth ache get some panadeine extra and give it a shot, will follow your instructions like it's a recipe!

cheers!

In my opinion panadeine extra is not worth what chemists charge for it. It's possibly the worst value for money codeine product out there. You're better off getting generic panadeine (chemists own pain tablets: 10mg/codeine + 500mg/paracetamol) or generic nurofen plus (panafen + or one of the numerous other brands).

Sorry to stray off topic guys....

 

[Mr Blonde]

Mr Blond when im talkin about not understanding why the hanky only catches approx 95% of the apap & now all of it, Im obviously refering to the insoluble apap!!!

ok so some of the apap is suspended? what does this mean. it's not crystalized with the rest & has alot smaller particals which get through the hanky??

Some APAP, which is still insoluble in water, gets through the filter and is suspended in solution. Putting the liquid in the freezer or even just letting it sit out is going to lead to everything solid settling at the bottom.

Basically, yes some of it does get through the pores of the filter since a hanky is not a lab grade filter. Basically what I said back up there...