Poppy seed tea. Has anyone given it a try?

[Anon54]

I used the search engine & was surprised to see only 3 threads here in ADD & was just curious if anyone has tried it.

Is it legal here in Australia? (Obviously the pods wouldn't be)

Is it as simple as going to the health food store & purchasing 300 grams?

Doesn't the owner of the store ask what in the hell u would be buying all those seeds for?

I read that the lemon reduces the PH of the water or something like that which help the alkaloids separate from the seeds into the water.

I don't plan on goin down the street to try this method. Just curious in anyones experiences, if good seeds are actually easily available (or they are all washed well these days) & how it compares to Codeine.

If it's as good as some of the reports I've read I'm surprised as to why everyones not out buyin the stuff instead of doing CWE.

Anyways, here's a recipe I found on the internet:

Just the 300g of poppy seeds.

1. Put them in a big soda bottle. Fill with warm water (not hot) so the water is covering all the seeds and you can slosh it around a bit.

2. Let it sit for 10 minutes shaking occasionally.

3. Get a big cup. Turn bottle upside down and slowly twist the lid until the water starts coming out but the seeds stay inside. Squeeze the bottle to get the last of the water. Drink the tea.

you can add some lemon juice after step one to help with the taste. It's rumored the citric acid helps with the extraction but SWIM doesn't think so.

You're just after the stuff on the outside of the seeds so don't grind them up or anything. Just follow SWIMs instructions and you should be good to go.

edit: here's some extra info. trying to help out with HR
take a look www.poppyseedtea.org
someone overdosed on 3.5 pounds. that's 1.5855kg, a pretty high dose
..but read the coroner's report:
www.poppyseedtea.com/Coroner_report.html
seems he also had:
Zoloft, Xanax, DPH, THC, Hydrocodone & obviously codeine too in his system. so ummm yeah. obviously not just the the morphine from the PST
but it did say the main cause was overdose of morphine.
Check this link out from wikipedia saying the batch contained like 500mg of morphine

OverdoseIn 2003, a case of fatal overdose of poppy seed tea was reported on a website authored by the victim's parents. The site alleges that a sample of poppy seed tea was sent for laboratory analysis. This victim is reported to have used 3.5 lb of poppy seeds in his tea preparation as on several previous occasions. The concentration of morphine in the tea was shown to be around 250 μg/ml and the amount of morphine which had been consumed by the individual was around 500 mg.[1] This is about five times the lethal oral dose (without tolerance to opioids).[2]ABC News reported on the incident in January 2008.[3]

That's a good example of how varying the potency of the batches can be so be careful if ya gunna try it out. they were obviously unwashed poppy seeds, but still...

 

[Seith]

If it's as good as some of the reports I've read I'm surprized as to why everyones not out buyin the stuff instead of doing CWE.

Most of the seeds you find in the shops will be washed which makes them useless for tea. Find a store that sells in bulk (~1kg) and give them a go.

The seeds are legal (obviously), I'm not sure about the pods. Pretty sure making the tea with the intent to get high would be illegal.

I bought a 1kg bag the other week and gave it a go, much better feeling from the tea than just codeine. Was very impressed but I did have little expectations reading some of the reports in ADD.

 

[ilikewater]

I've done it multiple times, with failure and success. There are different batches of seeds and the potentcy depends on the batch. So I have had absolutely no effect a couple times using about 600g. Big waste of time/money.
Tere have been cases where people get really potent batches, in fact some kid died from that very thing. He used the same amount of poppy seeds, but this batch happened to be more potent, his parents found him dead (he ODed). There is a web site his parents have not created to sway people against poppy tea.
I use about 500g generally though. I haven't noticed a difference with using any citric acid, but a lot of people have said it works. There is a megathread on poppytea here with a lot of information.

I don't live in australia, but the seeds are the same seeds you cook with. If you buy them in bulk and they ask just tell them you're making muffins or something.
In the US it is not illegal to buy or grow these poppies/poppy seeds, but to extract the drugs is (which is what you do, making the tea). I think it may be similar in the UK and AUS.
Sorry if this is jumbled, or doesn't make much sense.. my brain is scattered.

 

[Crankinit]

I gave it a spin with seeds from <snip> several times, never achieved more than a mild, dirty buzz with a host of side effects, the seeds in <snip> are useless, but you might have luck with those from a <different source>

 

[Mr Blonde]

They are very hit and miss. There used to be some reports here in AusDD about people who have had some bad experiences with seeds, possibly due to trying it with seeds from high thebaine content pods.

As for the pods, they are kinda hard to get here too, not as easy as it is in America. I have gotten them a few times from Victoria, but very rarely. I quite liked the pods actually, they are quite good value.

 

[lostNfound]

Related reading.

Poppy Seed Tea (exp): Mystical whales and a dancing pigeon

Very Impressed- Poppy Seed Tea

 

[Anon54]

I heard of a case while doing a google search that someone planted the seeds they bought in his yard & some of them actually sprouted so than he just grew his owm poppies & used the pods. is this possible or was it someone making shit up?
Because if this is the case why is there pot everywhere & poeple arn't growing opium instead. Maybe they are harder to grow or something. I mean it's not like u can go to the shop & buy a bag of pot seeds.
thx lost lostNfound, I'll take a look at those links.
But the stuff musn't be that good otherwise everyone would be doin it, right?
must taste like crap or something. I found codeine easy to drink so it couldnt be that bad

 

[Anon54]

Well that was an interesting trip report. Sounded like the guy had an awesome time. Sounded like he got a decent amount of morphine. interesting. how does it taste. can u tell what kind of dose ya getting from the taste? If it tastes anything like Codeine I would know how much would be a decent amount.
btw I read about that person that ODed
http://www.poppyseedtea.com/
he took 3.5lbs. that's equal to 1.5855kg if my calculations are correct. so u can obviously OD on this stuff. that is a high dose though. Problem is the seeds would vary alot but if u could get a taste for the potency atleast u could make an assumption.

 

[TripppAR]

I may just do this tonight.. i bought the seeds a while ago at <snip> haha! But... yeh.. my mate said it tastes fowl! He ALSO SAID...its best to wash with Oranje juice.. the acid helps alot. HE bangs oles in the bottom on the container and lets it drain then he drnks it lol.. argh..


But he is an addict and also grows his own poppys in his cupboard lol !

 

[heythatsmybike]

Use to do it when I was younger with about 800gm of seeds. We use but it in the blender and soak it with lemon juice. Stir it every so often for 30 minutes then add water. Do the same thing then drai it out. Get a stocking to filter and squeez.

As mentioned above though it does give you a dirty feeling most of the time. Drink plenty of water to.

Seeds just purchased at <snip>

 

[Mr Blonde]

I heard of a case while doing a google search that someone planted the seeds they bought in his yard & some of them actually sprouted so than he just grew his owm poppies & used the pods. is this possible or was it someone making shit up?
Because if this is the case why is there pot everywhere & poeple arn't growing opium instead. Maybe they are harder to grow or something. I mean it's not like u can go to the shop & buy a bag of pot seeds.
thx lost lostNfound, I'll take a look at those links.
But the stuff musn't be that good otherwise everyone would be doin it, right?
must taste like crap or something. I found codeine easy to drink so it couldnt be that bad

They are fairly easy to grow if I remember correctly, but the yield is very low and to get a decent amount of opium out of it you would need a suspicious amount of poppy plants.

 

[rm2x]

it used to work all the time but they have been washing the seeds really well lately, the last time I tried it about a year ago it didn't work, so haven't bothered since

They are fairly easy to grow if I remember correctly, but the yield is very low and to get a decent amount of opium out of it you would need a suspicious amount of poppy plants.

yeah got some ornamental sprouts happening at the moment, this is actually a good time of year to get them up and running

 

[MrIbis]

<snip> brand were great circa 2005/2006. They then started irradiation of the seeds to destroy alkaloids.

It's a pointless endeavour which has had no luck for me in a good 3-4 years.

 

[Anon54]

They are fairly easy to grow if I remember correctly, but the yield is very low and to get a decent amount of opium out of it you would need a suspicious amount of poppy plants.

It's a pitty ya can't just grow a few in the garden & take a couple of pods off eachplant evey now & than. I don't think I'll try this extraction. by now probably any place that the seeds are easily obtainable from are washed well.

but, if anyone has any good experiences let me know. Be good if ya could just go tell coles & get as smashed as that guy from that trip report LostNFound posted
Tripppar: make sure to post in how succeussful poppy seed tea goes

 

[swilow]

I've been off my face from poppy seed tea in the past; almost dangerously so.

Most seeds are washed or irradiated, but some bulk spice places will stock seeds that aren't. Basically, if the seeds look greyish, then they are maybe potent.

I haven't tried this stuff for ages, and wouldn't bother. It works out to be about 1 in 4 brews did anything for me, so fuck it, just buy codeine or something. Its a certain with codeine, plus cheaper and cleaner.

 

[Sustanon]

U need to find the right seeds. Unwashed ones but i doubt u will find many unless ur in Tasmania. My family uses poppy seeds for bagels and alll sorts of traditional cakes and etc. My mum buys kilos of the stuff and even gets them to grind em up for her. All imports well most are swabbed for traces of drugs and it would come up so it has to be washed totally and pass the quality insurance. Ur best bet is to get sum OTC codeine or oxys if u can come across them. With seeds u will never be able to control ur dose. U only need to OD once to die.

 

[Mr Blonde]

Basically, if the seeds look greyish, then they are maybe potent.

All the seeds I see in <snip> look greyish to me and I've never had them work.

By contrast, I've got an old pack of poppy seeds from a grower that I was thinking of using for a garden that are the blackest I've ever seen and I know they haven't been washed or anything like that. Is color really anything to go by with seeds?

 

[rachamim]

Poppy seeds contain absolutely no alkaloids whatsoever, just acids and sugars which will not do much of anything when heated in water though they are known to cause a great deal of indigestion.

Seeds, when taken from technically ripe pods and unwashed can yield a trace amount of alkaloids and for opiate/opioid naive people it can be quite an enjoyable experience.

Every once in awhile a thread pops up on the site and someone who loves seed tea will flod a case where a youth in the US died from poppy tea The case is bogus. The young man DID die, but died from prescription opiates. I just have to add that because a lot of curious people latch onto that case in some sort of hope that they have discovered a legal high.

As for growing poppies, it is in fact quite simple, they grow like weeds but with so many specialised strains on the market you have to match the variety with your Grow Zone and altitude or else be extremely patient for a few seasons as you experiment on your own.

Each pod will cough up about 100 mgs of raw opium per lancing for the 1st 2 or 3 lancings and there after increasingly small amounts. Opium's morphine content averages 10% so that with that 100 mgs you net 10 mgs morphine. Consuming it in tea or in smoke and you nets a whopping 3.3 mgs (on average) given the bioavailability.

However, each single plat has 4 to 6 pods. A 10 meter by 10 meter plot cloaked with sunflowers can get you a good 30 grammes easily (in raw form). I do not know the legality in Australia, in the US they are illegal to grow but they are used in the dried floral industry so are usually well tolerated by authorities as long as they aren't led to believe they are being grown for consumption...or as long as noone complains to Law Enforcement directly in which case their hand is forced.

The UK allows growing but not lancing at which point it becomes a criminal offence.

My country of residence, the Philippines? Until 2 years ago 10 grammes of poppy seeds got you the lethal injection, now it is life without parole. What a world.

 

[coopie]

white poppy seeds?

I've seen a few poppy seed threads bouncing around and coincidently I tried it last night (tea) - but to no avail...

I've been interested in poppy seed tea for quite a while and my research (of people's experiences) make me conclude that it's a virtually a 'hit or miss' experience...

So - I haven't given up and I just went to purchase some more poppy seeds to give it another go (I admit - I'm a bit desparate and in unexpected WD), this time i'm probably going to tweak my process or something etc, etc. But when I went to the shop - they had white poppy seeds, and the packet info didn't say much about them or anything - just that they were the same flavour as black/blue poppy seeds. I stuck with the traditional black seeds in the end - but now I'm wondering: what of these white poppy seeds? perhaps they are of greater value to me?

Does anyone know what's with the white poppy seeds? and any other helpful hints for tea would be good, if that's allowed?

Anyway,

Cheers in advance

ps: I'm in australia FYI

 

[Mr Blonde]

I think the white seeds come from Persian poppies or something like that... the type of papaver they come from is an opium producing poppy so they could work.

Use the search engine and dig up the old poppy seed threads, you will find some useful info in there. As you know it's hit and miss and we can't really give a good dosage to take. Don't mix with other CNS depressants of course.

Hope it works out for you.