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Poppy Pod Tea - First Time - Very Impressed

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mrgeneric

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let me start by saying that i have a great deal of experience with opiates (having sampled hydrocodone, oxycodone, codeine, morphine, opium and heroin), but at the time of this experiment i had not done any opiates for three weeks (giving me a tolerance of effectively zero).

i wish i had known about this stuff when i was coming off of heroin. :D seriously, a friend of mine tried to make a tea/smokable opium resin from shitty poppy seeds bought from a chain grocery store. let's just say the effects were.. disappointing, to say the least. with that experience stuck firmly in my mind, i have been of the opinion that all 'legal' opiate highs are garbage.. let's just say that i'm glad i changed my mind and took the chance on 90 large pods from a reputable online vendor.

wanting them to be available on the weekend, i had them shipped 2-day air. they arrived on time, and i was quite pleased with the customer service i received from the vendor (i wish i could source on these forums, cause i'd love to give them some positive feedback. alas).

having heard that simply grinding up the pods and swallowing the sludge was twice as effective as making a tea with the material, i decided to swallow roughly 10g of poppy sludge (mixed with lukewarm tap water, for lack of anything in the fridge). very unpleasant going down, i noticed that it was hard to get the top layer of pod grindings completely wet... liberal mixing was necessary to get the entire solution moist.

i began to feel effects within 30-45 minutes, although this may have just been placebo at this point. well, when i walked into the village with my good friend to return some movies, and noticed a distinctly familiar warmth/floatiness throughout my entire body.. well, i knew these pods were for real. :D

after roughly 75-90 minutes the sludge appears to have fully kicked in, and i am feeling quite good. ahhh, nothing like a good old fashioned opiate high. feeling positive about the experience thus far, i decide to whip up another batch of 9g poppy/OJ juice, and down it in two gulps. needless to say, i feel the effects quite strongly within an hour.. at this point i am just chilling out, blazing and watching some movies with a couple friends. i get up to take a piss, and notice one of the notorious opiate side-effects.. difficulty urinating. ahhh, and that wonderful itching sensation. and, wouldn't you know it, that familiar nausea.

but bliss, euphoria, warmth and sheer chillness, as well. over all i am extremely impressed. but be careful about dosages, if you plan on being active. i ended up drinking something like 25-30g in three cups before going to a rave last night, and needless to say with that and the caps i took, i was quite nauseous for a fair bit, and had to rush to the garbage can/toilet a few times. but still, i felt amazing, and although i would have lowered the dosage a bit, i do not regret taking them before the party. :D

great two nights had by all, and i plan on experimenting with this substance more often. HIGHLY recommended to anyone with a love of opiates, although i could see an existing opiate tolerance being problematic (i can't imagine choking down more than, say, 15g of sludge in a single go).

easy now, rude boy,
-mrgeneric.
 
dear god, you actually swallowed the wet grinds?!?

**runs to the bathroom**

sorry, just thinking of that nearly made me throw up. The tea itself is so nasty I could barely handle it at times, let alone trying to drink it with the wet, sloppy, dirt-tasting grinds in there with it. :(

Anyway, glad to hear you enjoyed your pod experience. I am/was a regular tea user for 5 or 6 months. Be warned though, a pod habit can and will easily turn into a pod addiction and the withdrawals from pods are just as serious as any other opiate withdrawal.
Because of the tea's long half life (+/- 36 hours) I'd say you can only 'safely' dose twice a week without worrying about dependency. That's much easier said than done though, believe me :\
 
Actually thats how I always took pods as well. When your a pill head being economical beats making your fix taste good. I used to put the powder in a cup and eat a spoon full at a time until it was all gone.

Opiates are a slippery slope though, get out while you still can

Whats this about the half life of pods? Morphine's half life is much shorter than 36 hours.
 
I'm pretty sure pods don't just have morphine. They contain all sorts of opiods and alkaloids, and you're getting addicted to them all at once. People who try to quit can't even substitute in other opiods because it's just not the same. You're addicted to all of them at once.
 
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Beenhead said:
Actually thats how I always took pods as well. When your a pill head being economical beats making your fix taste good.
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word. if have the choice between swallowing 25grams of pod grinds in orange juice (which i've found masks the taste VERY well, and the consistency isn't even that bad, if ground up to a fine powder) or making a tea out of 50grams (often a messy process, as i use coffee filters to filter the tea from the grinds, and often they develop tears) in order to get high.. well, i'm going to pick the former. for economical reasons, as well as reasons of convenience.

sure, the grinds are absolutely fucking HORRIBLE if you only have tap water to use, or if they are still in a somewhat chunky consistency.. but finely powdered, mixed with something like orange or grapefruit or apple juice, they are rather simple to down in one or two gulps. and you save a LOT of pods by dosing this way.. not to mention that the high is much more intense, and lasts a good while longer. i've gone through 90 large pods and 40 giant pods since i've discovered this vendor, and i personally have come to the conclusion that the sludge (as i've come to call it) is a much more enjoyable experience for me than the tea.

although i have considered getting a french press and ordering a mass amount of pods (the discount over 200+ is RIDICULOUS). if i do this, then i could see drinking a lot more tea.. i also intend on attempting to make a smokable product using a water-based extraction on a large number of ground pods. i'll make a post detailing my experiment, if i do end up attempting the extraction. wish me luck. :D
 
i haven't had poppy tea ever; afraid of addiction to it, which i've heard and read horror stories about so be careful. but i have had kratom. if it falls into your category of legal garbage highs, check your source. from my experience it can be strong and addicting. i'd compare it to hydrocodone mixed with darvocet, plus a little stimulation. i know someone who stepped off a 120mg oxy habit right to about a third ounce dose of kratom 3x a day with no problems, except he is now addicted to kratom. its cheaper and legal, at least for now.

if you try kratom DON'T make a tea. mitragynine and/or whatever opioid is in there isn't very water soluble, i've tried. the best thing to do is put a teaspoon or 2 right in your mouth and chase with a mildly acidic juice.
 
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i also intend on attempting to make a smokable product using a water-based extraction on a large number of ground pods. i'll make a post detailing my experiment, if i do end up attempting the extraction. wish me luck. :D
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This is extremely easy to do, actually.

1. Make pod tea; best way is a triple extraction. Cover the grounds with water, heat to 90 C, simmer 20 minutes, filter, then repeat twice more and combine all the tea.

2. Put the tea in a large bowl in the freezer. When about a third of it is frozen, take the bowl out, break the ice up, and strain it out with a wire strainer. The purpose of doing this is to remove most of the oils, which would prevent the final product from combusting easily. You know how when you put chicken soup in the fridge, the fat all collects on top and solidifies? Well, that's the point here too. Don't throw away the ice, it has a ton of morphine in it as well; you can always melt & drink it, or plug it, or whatever. You just can't smoke it.

3. Take a shallow dish and line it with parchment paper (sold in grocery stores for baking). Pour the tea that didn't freeze into the dish. Place the dish on the open door of an oven on the lowest setting, with a fan blowing across it. Wait until all the water is evaporated.

4. You will be left with a stiff piece of paper with a brown, flaky crust on it. The crust is easily broken off and ground up, yielding a fine brown crystalline powder that can be smoked. Foil works for smoking, or you can use a glass tube (I'm told crack pipes serve admirably). You can even smoke the paper itself -- a fair amount of morphine will have soaked into it, but the smoke is very harsh. The powder itself smokes very easily however, and has a pleasant sweet flavor.
 
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I did that aswell. Couldnt be bothered to make a tea.
Makes me want to start growing some more poppies :D

And for your info opium/poppies contain: the baine, morphine, codiene and some other 20-30 alkaloids.
 
IcarusRisen said:
I'm pretty sure pods don't just have morphine. They contain all sorts of opiods and alkaloids, and you're getting addicted to them all at once. People who try to quit can't even substitute in other opiods because it's just not the same. You're addicted to all of them at once.
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I hear this all the time, but I'm 99% certain it's not true. I've had poppy pods, and I've had pure morphine, and pods do feel a bit different and last longer -- but ONLY if eaten raw or drunk as a tea. If you evaporate poppy tea (as described above) and eat the residue, you get a comparatively intense but shorter high that is totally indistinguishable from an ampule of morphine. Most likely, the tea lasts longer because it is absorbed into your body more slowly due to the MOA.

I'd be willing to bet that if you took someone who was suffering sickness from pod w/d's and gave him a shot of pure morphine, he'd feel just fine. The other alkaloids in poppies simply aren't present in high enough concentrations to have much effect.

Edit: except codeine, which is just a prodrug of morphine.
 
Yes indeed. The other minor alkaloids in poppy play a very big role in the 'high' one gets from pods.

And, yep, as Bodhi says, none of them are there in sufficient quantity to be a sole addiction.

You get hooked on pod and basically your just hooked on morphine.
 
I don't think even once a week is safe. I managed to 'play' with opiates on a regular basis for over a decade...without addiction. But when I discovered poppy tea...even once a week was too much and soon I was physically addicted and it gradually progressed to every day for many years of my life.

And as noted, it isn't just the morphine...you get addicted to all of the alkaloids...and the W.D. is terrible...far worse than heroin WD.

Best bet is to keep poppies a fond memory and not play with fire.
 
IcarusRisen said:
I'm pretty sure pods don't just have morphine. They contain all sorts of opiods and alkaloids, and you're getting addicted to them all at once. People who try to quit can't even substitute in other opiods because it's just not the same. You're addicted to all of them at once.
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yeah poppys contain morphine, papaverine, codeine, and a few others. It is true that you do get addicted to all of them and because of it you have worse withdrawls, but I did poppies every day for months and I would be able to take Oxy and Lortab in between shipments, and its just as good. Its true that the combination of alkaloids gives a unique buzz that people seek and may prefer, but others will hold you over, or potentially permanetely substitute. When you are addicted to opiates, you can substitute an opiate for another, trust me I do it all the time. Activation of the Mu Opioid receptor with any substance gets you to the same place, even though you unlocked with a different key.
 
I didn't find (personally) that oxy, hydro, etc would substitute for when I was out of pods. Pills took care of most of it, but there was always leg restlessness and aches that only more pod tea could fill.

It took me months to get used to the suboxone that finally allowed me to reclaim my life.
 
It seems like you may have had a more personal connection to the pod tea, where I may just crave the opiate high in any fashon, as I started out as a teenager with lortab one week, dilaudid the next then percocet, then methadone, and on and on. And pod tea was a little later
 
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