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Police Brutality Thread

Xorkoth said:
Some recent posts hit the nail on the head for me. It's not about what is currently happening, and to who, it's about why. Why is it that there is a higher incidence of black people who shoot cops? Why is it that there is a greater incidence of black people living in communities infested with violent crime? Are the cops right to fear black people who look a certain way? Yeah, I'm sure they are, I'd be scared too. But what are the underlying reasons for this cultural disparity and mutual fear? To Headphone's point, what is the reason why a large number of black men dress and act a certain way? Why do more blacks kill blacks than other races? If your reason isn't that there is some inherent underlying racial inferiority at work, then what does it leave? A system that has oppressed a minority (not just one minority) for hundreds of years, and the fallout from that systemic lack of opportunity and mistreatment. Denying that there is a strong element of systemic racism at play is suggesting that black people only have themselves to blame for this situation. We need to be moving forward and doing something about this as a whole culture, as a whole world, not saying "nope there's no problem, they should just pick themselves up by their bootstraps, everyone gets targeted by cops, this is 2020, civil rights was 60 years ago". Playing the blame game isn't helping anyone. And those goes for everyone. But we need to be honest about the reasons for why things are the way they are.
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The same people who will blame systemic racism for the problems of today will refuse to admit that Democrat policies specifically have most contributed to the current plight of black people in the US.
They'll claim to be against racism yet vote for the most racist party. I guess Dems' phony BS of caring for minorities is more than enough to convince a lot of people.

 
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A great example of distraction. I couldn't care less whose fault it is more. I'd just like us to be able to have real conversations about it without deflecting. So is it a problem, or isn't it? If it is, then let's figure out how to make it not a problem anymore and not spend half our time arguing it's not a real problem, and the other half pointing fingers, depending on what is expedient.
 
Xorkoth said:
A great example of distraction. I couldn't care less whose fault it is more. I'd just like us to be able to have real conversations about it without deflecting. So is it a problem, or isn't it? If it is, then let's figure out how to make it not a problem anymore and not spend half our time arguing it's not a real problem, and the other half pointing fingers, depending on what is expedient.
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I think we should forget all this shit and focus on preventing our individual and collective rights from being stripped.
 
JGrimez said:
The same people who will blame systemic racism for the problems of today will refuse to admit that Democrat policies specifically have most contributed to the current plight of black people in the US.
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JGrimez said:
I think we should forget all this shit and focus on preventing our individual and collective rights from being stripped.
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No one is saying systemic racism is the cause of every single problem today, it is one significant problem of many. In essence, all you're saying is you're upset that your issues aren't front and center right now, and trying to distract from the issues being discussed. There are many, many issues this world faces, no one is saying those issues aren't important too.
 
lol it's not my issues it's what's best for everyone.

And that includes exposing politicians and media for emotionally manipulating masses of people on a dime.
 
JGrimez said:
lol it's not my issues it's what's best for everyone.

And that includes exposing politicians and media for emotionally manipulating masses of people on a dime.
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Right, but do you see what I mean? You're turning this into a debate over what issue you think we should be focusing on right now, and that's your choice, but the focus right now is on systemic racism. Enough people have protested and made sure their voices have been heard, so those are the issues that are going to get these conversations right now - whether one agrees it's a worthy issue, or if there are more important issues, etc.
 
Xorkoth said:
Some recent posts hit the nail on the head for me. It's not about what is currently happening, and to who, it's about why. Why is it that there is a higher incidence of black people who shoot cops? Why is it that there is a greater incidence of black people living in communities infested with violent crime? Are the cops right to fear black people who look a certain way? Yeah, I'm sure they are, I'd be scared too. But what are the underlying reasons for this cultural disparity and mutual fear? To Headphone's point, what is the reason why a large number of black men dress and act a certain way? Why do more blacks kill blacks than other races? If your reason isn't that there is some inherent underlying racial inferiority at work, then what does it leave? A system that has oppressed a minority (not just one minority) for hundreds of years, and the fallout from that systemic lack of opportunity and mistreatment. Denying that there is a strong element of systemic racism at play is suggesting that black people only have themselves to blame for this situation. We need to be moving forward and doing something about this as a whole culture, as a whole world, not saying "nope there's no problem, they should just pick themselves up by their bootstraps, everyone gets targeted by cops, this is 2020, civil rights was 60 years ago". Playing the blame game isn't helping anyone. And those goes for everyone. But we need to be honest about the reasons for why things are the way they are.
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I was stabbed last year by a black man because I would not give him a measly $70 worth of clothes that I just bought. If I was not in a populated area, I would have bled out.

I do not play with blacks as a result. I never will. I do not want anything bad to happen to them, or see them differently as people, I simply will not be around them. Am I wrong?
 
jackie jones said:
I was stabbed last year by a black man because I would not give him a measly $70 worth of clothes that I just bought. If I was not in a populated area, I would have bled out.

I do not play with blacks as a result. I never will. I do not want anything bad to happen to them, or see them differently as people, I simply will not be around them. Am I wrong?
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Yes. You are a racist.

This means you are a racist.

If you get stabbed by a white person will you forsake all whites? If not, you obviously do see them differently as people, no?
 
I understand your thinking process, Jess.

Yet...

It was simply the last straw. I have done a lot of traveling in the US and after a lot of years trying to view all colors equally, I am not playing even one more game of Let's Fuck Whitey.
 
jackie jones said:
I understand your thinking process, Jess.

Yet...

It was simply the last straw. I have done a lot of traveling in the US and after a lot of years trying to view all colors equally, I am not playing even one more game of Let's Fuck Whitey.
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White people have done... God only knows how many horrible things throughout history and into the present day.
 
Maybe, but I didn't think it really needed anything more be said.

Your whole argument seems to come with a preexisting assumption that black people are somehow worth rejecting entirely for the actions of their worst members, but white people aren't.

Even though, all things considered white people have probably done even more evil with even less excuse for it throughout history.
 
What I just realized, and this is somewhat interesting. At first I was baffled and appalled some of the views being expressed in this thread and other similar ones here, especially for a drug forum. But it's almost funny, when you think about it, for all the people arguing racism doesn't exist, or worse that it's justified:

Just look at these threads. They don't even realize they are contributing to it, every single day. These threads are almost a nice snapshot of the systemic problems that exist and the complex challenges we face going forward.
 
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Well, that is how it is, and it was brought upon by the actions of black males. Not Hipanics, not Whites, not Asians.

"Yo, I got you."

Yo nothing. Get the fuck away from me.

I wish it did not have to be that way, but no. Just no.
 
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