Jamshyd
Bluelight Crew
It is also probably scheduled in Canada since as I understood anything ending with "Amphetamine" is automatically Schedule III, be it PMEA, DOF, or TOMSO.
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PMEA - first time - MY ++++ on PMEA
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lysergication
Bluelighter
in your opinion, how amount is needed to reach a "normal" dose for this material ?
by "normal" i mean strong effects without the feeling of being overwhelmed for somebody without an amphetamine tolerance. for the comparison : if somebody was asking me the same question for the shrooms i'd say 2g of dried cubes...
imo, i was thinking that 30 mg would be a good starter dose and about 40-50 for a "normal" dose...
i hope it's clear...thanks in advance!
by "normal" i mean strong effects without the feeling of being overwhelmed for somebody without an amphetamine tolerance. for the comparison : if somebody was asking me the same question for the shrooms i'd say 2g of dried cubes...
imo, i was thinking that 30 mg would be a good starter dose and about 40-50 for a "normal" dose...
i hope it's clear...thanks in advance!
*TM-321*
Bluelighter
I would start out at around 25-50 mgs. I think this would be a good level to get yourself accustomed to this. Any higher than 50 and you should prepare yourself for a powerful experience.
I took 10mgs at the motorcross yesterday and followed it up with another 10mg booster. It was somewhat active at this low dose. I got a few tracers and some color enhancement. It was a rather giddy and pleasant buzz. The sun shining down on me felt absolutely wonderful. The sounds of the bikes echoing in the stadium was incredible. They all blended together and it sounded like ocean waves.
I took 10mgs at the motorcross yesterday and followed it up with another 10mg booster. It was somewhat active at this low dose. I got a few tracers and some color enhancement. It was a rather giddy and pleasant buzz. The sun shining down on me felt absolutely wonderful. The sounds of the bikes echoing in the stadium was incredible. They all blended together and it sounded like ocean waves.
*TM-321*
Bluelighter
You know its extremely ironic that you ask that. About two weeks ago I was in a high stress situation and everything became very strange. I began to have serious color enhancement as well as a loss of depth perception. It lasted for about 5 minutes. At the time I brushed it off as isolated and I didnt know if it was any one of or one specific substance Ive used over the last couple months. To let you know those include 2c-i, 2c-t-21, and 5-meo-mipt. I would have mentioned it but I couldnt be sure about it.
Today I was in another high stress situation. I was waiting to give a presentation and I have this horrible fear of public speaking. Anyways the same feeling came back. I low dosed PMEA this weekend. That low dosing allowed me to recognize the flashback as PMEA.
Now mind you these flashbacks were by no means extreme. Just a novelty really. But being in such a situation they were noticable. The weird thing is that instead of freaking out I took account of my fear and overcame it. I simply decided not to let it affect me. When the panic set in I simply thought of something else. Oddly I wound up giving a pretty damn good presentation. I always have panic attacks in such situations and this time I didnt. Not so much as a stutter.
Now dont take this all the wrong way. The above paragraph could just be a coincidence. Maybe theres more to it. The fact that Ive taken other hallucinogens recently also cant be ruled out although Ill say it felt ALOT like a low dose of PMEA.
So there it is. To answer your question yes there have been some lingering effects. Whether or not they are bad or good remains to be seen. If I notice anymore of these effects Ill report back.
Today I was in another high stress situation. I was waiting to give a presentation and I have this horrible fear of public speaking. Anyways the same feeling came back. I low dosed PMEA this weekend. That low dosing allowed me to recognize the flashback as PMEA.
Now mind you these flashbacks were by no means extreme. Just a novelty really. But being in such a situation they were noticable. The weird thing is that instead of freaking out I took account of my fear and overcame it. I simply decided not to let it affect me. When the panic set in I simply thought of something else. Oddly I wound up giving a pretty damn good presentation. I always have panic attacks in such situations and this time I didnt. Not so much as a stutter.
Now dont take this all the wrong way. The above paragraph could just be a coincidence. Maybe theres more to it. The fact that Ive taken other hallucinogens recently also cant be ruled out although Ill say it felt ALOT like a low dose of PMEA.
So there it is. To answer your question yes there have been some lingering effects. Whether or not they are bad or good remains to be seen. If I notice anymore of these effects Ill report back.
Morninggloryseed
Bluelight Crew
^^^^^^^^^
I'm not telling you what to do, but it seems you are using it a bit much. Isn't that three times in a month? I know one was only 10mg I think. But still, this one seems like a new ball park. Hey, experiment and let us know 'cause someone has too. But PMEA is one I'd only try once in a while until some more data comes in. But brave souls like you do provide it!
I hope to add to the data soon myself.
I'm not telling you what to do, but it seems you are using it a bit much. Isn't that three times in a month? I know one was only 10mg I think. But still, this one seems like a new ball park. Hey, experiment and let us know 'cause someone has too. But PMEA is one I'd only try once in a while until some more data comes in. But brave souls like you do provide it!
I hope to add to the data soon myself.
*TM-321*
Bluelighter
No no man. I wound up not doing it weekend before last when I mentioned 25 mgs. Other obligations came up. Also I actually did it the Saturday before I made that report which was in March. Hell I wish I had that much time.
I am guilty of trying other 'RC's however. I tried methylone in between those weeks. I knew it would be more predictable. Honestly I have the utmost respect for PMEA and I wouldnt use it like that nor would I advise anyone else to. Thats why I only took 10 mgs this time.
I am guilty of trying other 'RC's however. I tried methylone in between those weeks. I knew it would be more predictable. Honestly I have the utmost respect for PMEA and I wouldnt use it like that nor would I advise anyone else to. Thats why I only took 10 mgs this time.
The 'inside-out', i dont know how else to explain it, depth perception thing was sort of freaky. Such a 'realism' to it. Only at 10mg.
At 25mg is there a noticeable 'euphoric' nature to it (your friend)?
I don't remember noticing that on 10 but well, it was just 10mg.
At 25mg is there a noticeable 'euphoric' nature to it (your friend)?
I don't remember noticing that on 10 but well, it was just 10mg.
*TM-321*
Bluelighter
He reported that there were some methamphetamine rushes at 25mgs. I didnt really feel any of the amphetamine effects at 10mgs either. However at 100 mgs I was rubbing on my legs and shit.
Go on man I know you have some. Gobble it up and give us some much needed info.
Go on man I know you have some. Gobble it up and give us some much needed info.
Leprechaun
Bluelighter
I am definetly eagerly awaiting more trip reports on this substance. One report is definetly not enough to guage its effects.
VictorBorge
Bluelighter
I'm working on it. Have patience. All good things in time.
Morninggloryseed
Bluelight Crew
^^^^
Ditto.
Ditto.
*TM-321*
Bluelighter
A buddy an I while we were drinking got cocky and insufflated ~5mgs each. Not really any pain associated with the insufflation. Seemed to burn less than meth. Buzz overall is the expected light. Amphetamine effects have manifested themselves first with a bit of a giddy trippiness. Very pleasant. Heart rate somewhat elevated but not disturbingly so. Nice feeling overall.
On a side note ...
Both my buddy and I went a bit towards the stimulative side from insufflation. Hes a big guy and broke out in a sweat. I also felt some elevated temp. The speed at which this crosses the BBB felt like it was a factor here. It made the stimulative effects much more pronounced.
On a side note ...
Both my buddy and I went a bit towards the stimulative side from insufflation. Hes a big guy and broke out in a sweat. I also felt some elevated temp. The speed at which this crosses the BBB felt like it was a factor here. It made the stimulative effects much more pronounced.
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lysergication
Bluelighter
was this stimulation side a pleasant one like "i must do much things" or a stimulation like "you don't know what to do with it" ?
great to share your results, thanks !
great to share your results, thanks !
*TM-321*
Bluelighter
^^^^ Just a normal euphoric stimulation. It kinda just fizzled out after about an hour.
Last night my partner and I insufflated 20mgs each. Stimulation and a nice warmth on the right away on the comeup. This was followed by a little roughness at about the one hour mark when the actual hallucinogenic effects began. Hamstrings were locking up a bit which I dont remember the first time. Could have been that I was too messed up to notice that first time or it could have been the insufflation. Either way it wasnt too bad. We watched Fear and Loathing and laughed it up. There is some erotic with this one for sure.
It isnt an entactogen in the sense that you want to be touchy feely however once you start the sensations are very nice. We experienced warmth on the skin and tingling sensations. As far as the sex test goes though I think that the 5-meo-mipt is more sensual.
I did feel the omnipotence feelings even at this dose. Extreme confidence to the point of almost being aggresive. You really do feel like a superman or something. Dont think Ive ever felt that from anything else.
No really intense visuals really at this level at first however the hallucinations did develop towards the end. This stuff plays some serious games with sound. It seems that you are more able to seperate out different levels of sound and they are alot more crisp. I didnt get the extreme connection with the spiritual that I did at 100mgs. Dose has alot to do with how this is going to affect someone.
Last night my partner and I insufflated 20mgs each. Stimulation and a nice warmth on the right away on the comeup. This was followed by a little roughness at about the one hour mark when the actual hallucinogenic effects began. Hamstrings were locking up a bit which I dont remember the first time. Could have been that I was too messed up to notice that first time or it could have been the insufflation. Either way it wasnt too bad. We watched Fear and Loathing and laughed it up. There is some erotic with this one for sure.
It isnt an entactogen in the sense that you want to be touchy feely however once you start the sensations are very nice. We experienced warmth on the skin and tingling sensations. As far as the sex test goes though I think that the 5-meo-mipt is more sensual.
I did feel the omnipotence feelings even at this dose. Extreme confidence to the point of almost being aggresive. You really do feel like a superman or something. Dont think Ive ever felt that from anything else.
No really intense visuals really at this level at first however the hallucinations did develop towards the end. This stuff plays some serious games with sound. It seems that you are more able to seperate out different levels of sound and they are alot more crisp. I didnt get the extreme connection with the spiritual that I did at 100mgs. Dose has alot to do with how this is going to affect someone.
*TM-321*
Bluelighter
^^^^ I would say there is a slight increase in potency through insufflation. Probably no more than could be explained by a certain amount be soaked up by food in the tummy. Interestingly it doesnt burn at all but there was some rather medicine tasting drainage.