^^ummm... i'm 99.99% sure it's the real thing. and it's definitely not black tar. i know what black tar looks like, and i know what opium looks like. if it were black tar i'd be in my veins already. plus i've been smoking it for the past 2 weeks and it's definitely got a distinctive opiate high. i would not have gone through half an ounce of it without realizing it was bunk and then pick up 2 more ounces of it if it were anything else. maybe that's something that's happened to you, but i'm not that dumb.
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plugging opium
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CreativeRandom
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What's the exact reason you can't IV opium?
The answer is probably very simple, but then, tar is similiar to opium in looks and texture.
The answer is probably very simple, but then, tar is similiar to opium in looks and texture.
Syd_Barret
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Re: Re: plugging opium
Real opium is difficult to find and even if it is a substance that gets you high, chances are still pretty high that its just some other opiate disguised, or its just flat out tar.
But comeon, you cannot simply and absolutely say opium does not exist in the midwest. I'm from the midwest and a few of my friends encounter REAL opium fairly frequently.
Real opium is difficult to find and even if it is a substance that gets you high, chances are still pretty high that its just some other opiate disguised, or its just flat out tar.
But comeon, you cannot simply and absolutely say opium does not exist in the midwest. I'm from the midwest and a few of my friends encounter REAL opium fairly frequently.
stinkfoot said:
yea, i really wish someone would sell me 2 ounces of black tar for $550. that would be sweet as hell.
but this stuff just doesn't look like tar. it's not smooth and shiny, and it looks like it has a lot more plant material in it than most tar.
but this stuff just doesn't look like tar. it's not smooth and shiny, and it looks like it has a lot more plant material in it than most tar.
Bradshaw2727
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Does it smell flowery when you burn it?
Syd_Barret
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I've seen it and tested it.
Either way, the point isn't even whether my friends shit is real.. it could be fake so what..
I'm just saying you can't say absolutely that all "opium" in the midwest is fake...
Opium is not impossible to find in America. It is difficult though.
Either way, the point isn't even whether my friends shit is real.. it could be fake so what..
I'm just saying you can't say absolutely that all "opium" in the midwest is fake...
Opium is not impossible to find in America. It is difficult though.
if my shit is fake, well it fooled me. and hey, smoking just 2-3 pea-sized bowls gets me high so whatever it is, it was well worth the money. the only problem is that i don't like smoking anything anymore. and it doesn't seem like the most efficient way to administer this shit. and i can't inject it cuz it's definitely not tar.
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CreativeRandom said:
It may be similar in looks, etc. BUT, opium contains codeine, codeine cannot be safely administered by an intravenous (IV) injection as it may result in pulmonary oedema, facial swelling, dangerous release of histamines, and various cardiovascular effects
Check this out. --> .Codeine
Most pharmacies have oral syringes, if you dissolve it inot water, then draw some up, lube your bum a bit, then inject, I am sure it would work well, after all the inside of you bum is completely covered with blood vessels ready to absorb. This works well with a good strong hydro/APAP cold water extract and various other opiates I have tried, it hits you very quickly.
rachamim18
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booting opium...
Although opium does contain codeine it contains it in tiny percentages so that it does not present a threat to the user when injected. In fact, in some places around the world injection is the mode of choice. In the former USSR people would often inject opium and other unusual poppy preperations. I would not reccommend it in light of other health risks presented by contaminants in alot of opium but it is still possible to do it. The most effective way, and one that does not present alot of danger, is rectal administration.
As to whether or not it is really opium. Real opium does not have a whole lot of plant material in it. In addition, it does not have a paticularly floral aroma [but many imposters do]. I infer that you paid 550 for two ounces of the substance. If true, that would be another hint that it is probably not authentic. If someone actually had enough of it to sell they could basically write their own check. There are enough hungry consumers that would gladly pay more.
Although opium does contain codeine it contains it in tiny percentages so that it does not present a threat to the user when injected. In fact, in some places around the world injection is the mode of choice. In the former USSR people would often inject opium and other unusual poppy preperations. I would not reccommend it in light of other health risks presented by contaminants in alot of opium but it is still possible to do it. The most effective way, and one that does not present alot of danger, is rectal administration.
As to whether or not it is really opium. Real opium does not have a whole lot of plant material in it. In addition, it does not have a paticularly floral aroma [but many imposters do]. I infer that you paid 550 for two ounces of the substance. If true, that would be another hint that it is probably not authentic. If someone actually had enough of it to sell they could basically write their own check. There are enough hungry consumers that would gladly pay more.
well. if you're set on believing that i got ripped off, there's really no way i can convince of otherwise. i get a lot of stuff for much cheaper than they would normally go for in the states. you'd be really suprised at how much i get rolls for if you think the opium i got was cheap.
anyways, i tried plugging my "fake opium" last night and it worked great. getting it up there was quite unpleasant, but it was well worth the discomfort. the only problem i faced was that i only have a 1/2 cc syringe with the tip removed so it took me about 20 injections. i guess a 1cc syringe would probably be much more appropriate for this kinda stuff.
this method definitely gets me much higher than if i were to smoke the same amount. next time i gotta remember to use much less water though. i had to boil off a lot of water and that probably degraded the morphine somewhat.
anyways, i tried plugging my "fake opium" last night and it worked great. getting it up there was quite unpleasant, but it was well worth the discomfort. the only problem i faced was that i only have a 1/2 cc syringe with the tip removed so it took me about 20 injections. i guess a 1cc syringe would probably be much more appropriate for this kinda stuff.
this method definitely gets me much higher than if i were to smoke the same amount. next time i gotta remember to use much less water though. i had to boil off a lot of water and that probably degraded the morphine somewhat.
CreativeRandom
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You could have just plugged more than one shot's worth of liquid.
Oh yea, the codeine thing. Simple like I thought.
But couldnt you extract the codeine? Have codeine-less opium? This would probably take out alot of other goodies but, with what your left with, you could IV, and as for the codeine and other extracted goodies, just plug or smoke.
But in that case, probably better to just get h.
I give thursday, how much DO you get your rolls for?
Oh yea, the codeine thing. Simple like I thought.
But couldnt you extract the codeine? Have codeine-less opium? This would probably take out alot of other goodies but, with what your left with, you could IV, and as for the codeine and other extracted goodies, just plug or smoke.
But in that case, probably better to just get h.
I give thursday, how much DO you get your rolls for?
thursday - everyone is kinda picking on you, and I dont mean to add to that - but everyone is saying that it is prob fake for a simple/common sense reason. Why on earth would someone EVER smuggle a drug that has the same effects of heroin, but 1/80th of potency? With access to the necessary chemicals, the synthesis of opium to morphine to H is relatively easy. MAYBE here in socal or something, but you honestly think someone got that over the US boarder, then drove it to Kansas or wherever, to sell it at a super cut rate? no way dude.
In my heroin days, I actually personally witnessed on several occasions 2 dealers mixing small bits of black tar H (all we can get out west) with all sorts of shit (ground up mj stems, smokable incense, etc) and selling it as "opium" to [generally] younger/teenage kids who feared H becasue of it's heavy social stigma, but regularly took GHB, X etc. You might be right bro, but Id say there is a good chance your smoking/plugging small quantities of tar mixed with other shit. I went to school in St. Louis, and learned quickly that if you have a truely rare drug in the midwest, you can EASILY name your own price. just my 2 cents.
In my heroin days, I actually personally witnessed on several occasions 2 dealers mixing small bits of black tar H (all we can get out west) with all sorts of shit (ground up mj stems, smokable incense, etc) and selling it as "opium" to [generally] younger/teenage kids who feared H becasue of it's heavy social stigma, but regularly took GHB, X etc. You might be right bro, but Id say there is a good chance your smoking/plugging small quantities of tar mixed with other shit. I went to school in St. Louis, and learned quickly that if you have a truely rare drug in the midwest, you can EASILY name your own price. just my 2 cents.
CreativeRandom
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Well, you can have your cup of liquid, and bum-inject, then suck up more liquid, and repeat the process.
Sounds like good prices for rolls.
This thread is not a "Did I get heroin or opium" thread. This is more of a "What do I do with my opium" thread. It is irrelevant that this guy has opium or heroin. All we need to know, is that if this guy theoretically had opium, what should he do with it?
You assholes who are questioning whether it's heroin or opium are contributing to nothing. It's not the question he's asking.
Perhaps god sent him a package. For the purposes of this thread, that's damn good enough. If thursday thought it was questionable, he would have posted so.
Sounds like good prices for rolls.
This thread is not a "Did I get heroin or opium" thread. This is more of a "What do I do with my opium" thread. It is irrelevant that this guy has opium or heroin. All we need to know, is that if this guy theoretically had opium, what should he do with it?
You assholes who are questioning whether it's heroin or opium are contributing to nothing. It's not the question he's asking.
Perhaps god sent him a package. For the purposes of this thread, that's damn good enough. If thursday thought it was questionable, he would have posted so.
K'dOUTinAZ
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thursday said:
DAMN! 2 OZ.s of tar heroin for $550? Grams are going for $80 on average with a purity well above 30%. You realize that there are 28 grams in an ounce? Who the fuck said they are getting these prices? Whats the purity? 4%? I refuse to believe this unless your dealing and cutting.
CreativeRandom
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A gram of cocaine runs about $80 around here, give or take 20 bones. An oz is about 800. 28 grams. That's about $2800 worth, considering $100 a gram is very common.
I'm sure similiar math of "the more you buy the better the deal" is in the works here.
I'm not really sure what 2 oz of tar or 2oz of opium would be priced at.
I'm sure similiar math of "the more you buy the better the deal" is in the works here.
I'm not really sure what 2 oz of tar or 2oz of opium would be priced at.
i was responding to people who were telling me that i was getting ripped off by being sold black tar heroin instead of opium. that's the price i got the opium for.K'dOUTinAZ said:
i love how so many idiots are still trying to convince me that i didn't buy opium. despite the fact that:
-this stuff looks/smells/tastes like it's raw opium
-this stuff gives me a morphine-like high when i smoke it, and even more so when i plug it
-this stuff is way too cheap to be black tar heroin(although i wish someone would try to "rip me off" by selling me black tar at opium prices.)
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