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Misc Please help me with some medication questions

PsychedelicPsych

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This may be long so thanks to all​

Hello. First of all, thank you bluelight for years of fantastic info that made my past (mis)adventures just a little safer as I consider myself lucky to be here and without the reliable info found here things could have turned out not so well.

In any event, before I get into what I am asking I figure that I will give a bit of background in case it may prove relevant.

I am a 20 year old male. I have always been in excellent health, I am never sick. Athletically I am not fantastic but not bad. I am 5 foot 9 and weight about 160 pounds. I eat well and take basic vitamins regularly. I smoke cigarettes (bout 7 - 10 a day). Drug wise, I have tried most things that you could think of. I had a bit of an opiate habit (would bang smack, morphine & dillys mostly) but was always hygienic and have succeed in kicking the habit and for this I am VERY happy to get a second chance to do things right.

Now, for the (many & varied :P) questions/concerns I have about my medication. These questions have been weighing on my mind for quite some time and I never seem able to deduce a conclusive answer. This is not only frustrating but also a tad embarrassing as I am quite knowledgeable about basic brain chemistry, drugs & the effects both mentally and bio physically of them but I figure I have to swallow my pride and ask if I am to be safe.

The first drug that I ever did was dexedrine. 15 mg in the form of 3 glaxo triangles. I had been diagnosed as ADHD but my parents never medicated me. I was told they were ritalin and wanted to try it to see if I could actually do all right in school for once. I was 14 ... it worked. I had only limited access, no script and rarely did over 30 mg's in a day. sometimes the triangles, sometime spansuoles. I had never done any other drug, not even alcohol. I was blasted but not in a way the made me chase a high. Very productive, typical adhd relief results and yes, a strong buzz.

Fast forward. I had been to many treatment centers for opiate habit/addiction and admittedly many of them were during a stage when I had no intention of getting clean. I finally had a genuine conviction to get clean though and went to a center that held great promise. I felt like I was making progress but still had issues taking things in. I was honest with both counselors and myself and connected with myself in new ways. I should mention that I also have NVLD but I still made progress. They say this but recognized my attention issues and ability to at times retain information. I am not stupid and when something interests me I am very dedicated to knowing it inside out. Anyways, they signed me up to meet with the psychiatrist that visited a cpl of times a month.

Long story short, she determined that my adhd diagnosis was very fitting of me and asked me about meds. I was very aware of Dexedrine's abuse potential and history and it was with awkward apprehension that I told her that I had taken it in an un-prescribed manner back in the days of early high school. I spoke about how it did assist vastly with the attention issues and essentially made me function in a way that would be comparable to students who my not enjoy every course but remained dedicated knowing that it was worthwhile and that not everything will be "interesting". I compared this to my being in treatment. I knew that it was valuable in ways that at the time nothing else could be but it just didn't all register though I was trying.

My psych told me that this was treacherous and put her in an awkward position as she could tell that I was genuine but she had personally witnessed people in rehab for drugs less powerful such as Ritalin. She sized me up, examined my substance abuse history and the drugs that landed me in rehab but more importantly the reasons behind my use. That is another discussion for another time but by the end of the session i was scripted 10 mgs instant release Dexedrine 2 times a day (4 hrs apart) while in treatment.

All was fine n dandy. The first day I took them I was able to behave and perceive all aspects of all things in a way that was relative to my goals and yes I felt a pleasurable sensation but this was more of a side effect than anything else. It was not in the same context as when I would abuse drugs and my work and conduct reflected this. I was not enticed by the effect of increased self assurance as I have always been confident but many of my nvld symptoms improved particularly in the social aspect as I was able to consciously take others disposition and current emotional states into consideration. Long story short, when I left treatment 3 months ago I was prescribed 50 mg's a day. 20 mgs morning at 8am 20mg more at noon and at 4pm 10 mg. It worked in every way that it was supposed to. The euphoria the went with taking them initially and upon dose increases faded but the benefits remained. This was not without consequence. Here are my specific questions and I hope this background has been enough to offer relevant insight into what I am asking.

~ Questions Are As Follows ~​

#1 ~ Is this a relatively high dose as far as this drug goes. I take 50 mg's a day, all instant release GSK 5mg Triangles 20 mgs, 20mgs & than 10.

#2 ~ Being in good health too my knowledge and this has been confirmed by my home gp who now scripts me the psychiatrists original amount I was wondering if a healthy person with no history of cardio issues will be at great risk for specifically heart attack, aneurism or stroke?

#3 ~ Is a spike in systolic blood pressure and plus (at times up to 100 - 120 bpm) normal when they are in effect. It vanishes after effects leave but is this of concern. The numbers can vary but when not on them my doc said my blood pressure was very much acceptable.

#4 ~ Are there long term mental issues such as those that are reportingly caused by meth use to be worried about providing occasional breaks are taken.

#5 ~ Is it ok that some days I take less than the scripted amount.

#6 ~ Is it dangerous than on a few days I have taken say, 30mgs ALL AT ONCE but than no more? What in most ppl's case (lets say no tollerence) would a realistically hazardous dose be of dexedrine?

#7 ~ Is it good to take a complete multi vitamin daily to help the drug leave the body and replenish nutriants.

#8 ~ How long a tollerance break would be roughly needed to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce tollerence?

#9 ~ Is it hazardous to drink even to the point of drunkeness as long as one doesn't rly over do it just because the liquor feels less strong on this drug.

#10 ~ I think it is calcium magnesium but what is something that I can take to reduce tollerence.

#11 ~ What is the deal with baking soda and tums?

#12 ~ Is caffeine hazardous. On rare occasion I do CWE on like 20 - 30 T1's and infact is this specific combo dangerous specifically?

#13 ~ Anything else I should know bout being on this dose/drug that may be relecvant. I just want to ensure my cardio system doesn't give out. I also know getting head aches is common from time to time but I always fear a brain aneurism or some shit but really, how likely is this considering my decent health and age. Please, all advise welcome. Many MANY thanks to any and all that have read this. It is GREATLY appreciated.

:D ~ PsychedelicPsych
 
I appreciate it but I also figured that since there is in a way allot of basic questions that people should consider that here maybe people that need to see it most may get a look. Is it appropriate to post it ALSO in advanced or is dbl posting frowned upon?
 
^ Typically it's not good to double post, a mod will decide whether or not to move it if necessary so don't worry about it.

There's a lot of questions there and they'll probably get answered 1 at a time. For instance number 7, taking a vitamin shouldn't hurt you at all, if anything it will help your body so I advise you do keep taking them. I take a multi everyday myself and I feel better for doing it.
 
You sound like you are doing well. Obviously if you can function without your meds, you should try that first, but it sounds like you have and that now they are really helping. I don't think there is anything wrong with that. It is a good thing to try and take the least amount possible every day, as long as you are getting your shit done.
 
Thanks to all that have replied. I was just hoping if anyone could answer any of the specific questions and also shed some light on if this is a relatively low or high amount of prescribed dex as I have never been on medication and want to be more cognizant of what I am doing and such. Thanks everyone ! ! !
 
dose isn't too high - maybe shoot for functioning on 30mg or so... Also, don't worry about your pulse/ bp or long-term side effects. This isn't meth, it pharm grade medication. Your psychiatrist will stop you if your bp or heart rate get out of control or you become at risk for a heart attack/ stroke. It sounds like you are fairly young so as long as you eat and sleep well, take vitamins, and exercise, you should be good.
 
I greatly appreciate this response. Is it normal though when the drug is peaking to have experience a temporary spike in blood pressure or pulse? Also, can you shed some light on if it is indeed quite normal to get headaches, especially ones that vary in location at times but seem focused in one area? Thanks again ! I am 20 btw.
 
That dose seems reasonable if it keeps you focused.

When the rush goes on, it is normal to have spike in blood pressure or pulse. You might also get some palpations. It is completely normal and temporary.

As far as you are concerned about headaches they are quite usual side-effect. You have to decide if they affect more to your focus than the drug then you have the choice to make whether to continue or stop. It often keeps hitting one particular area at your head.

You seem quite smart when comparing to other USA people of your age. I have seen many stupid young fellas from states while in Afghanistan operation.

Have you considered taking Mensa IQ test?
 
That dose seems reasonable if it keeps you focused.

When the rush goes on, it is normal to have spike in blood pressure or pulse. You might also get some palpations. It is completely normal and temporary.

As far as you are concerned about headaches they are quite usual side-effect. You have to decide if they affect more to your focus than the drug then you have the choice to make whether to continue or stop. It often keeps hitting one particular area at your head.

You seem quite smart when comparing to other USA people of your age. I have seen many stupid young fellas from states while in Afghanistan operation.

Have you considered taking Mensa IQ test?

I am very greatful for your reply. It is not often I have been complimented in this sense. When I was in school I would always get in shit for being disruptive (not bad, just calling out and the like). Thank you, it just lets me know that it was all worth toughing it out knowing things would get better (school that is) and being in college now this is fantastic to hear.

In regards to your response I would like to take it. My psych made me take a iq test but i am not sure which one. As for the head aches, they didn't interrupt anything, i would just be scared i was having a vessel fill with blood and was going to have an aneurism or something. I always have been scared about medical complications and lets be honest, the side effect list of amps is plain scary. In regards to bp/pulse what realistically is an IMMEDIATELY dangerous reading that should have you heading to the ER. Like systolic and diastolic readings? pulse? And how long after last dose should it roughly take to dissipate? Thanks for you help good sir ! For the record I have no history of heart issues or high bp or anything? How severe can headaches normally get? I never generally am sick or get aches or anything day to day but the idea of a aneurism terrifies me, scary shit.
 
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