Please HELP - LSD fucked me

[2112acid]

Also for the future, you might want to steer clear of psychedelics, it is obvious from this thread that you are not mentally prepared for the heavy effects.

 

[Black Coast King]

Shit, and that was after a GOOD trip. Can you imagine what he would've been like after a bad one? Probably writing "FUCK" across his cell walls with his own excrement. Wait a year or two and try something gentler the next time, at least, with a good sitter.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Don't listen to those saying "man up" and "stop whining". They are just trying to bolster their own egos with machismo.

Stop drinking caffeine for a few days. It will only increase your anorexia and adrenaline levels. It also causes low blood sugar levels, and will sustain your anxiety. Cut out sugar for a few days. Like I said before, live on wholesome foods for a while to get your body back in to equilibrium. The most important thing is to give yourself what you need, not what you think you want.

Your problems are anxiety related (whether you think you know it or not), and this is in turn caused by reasons already stated before me. Follow a good diet, drink enough plain water (preferably spring water), you'll be fine. Nature will heal you if you look after yourself.

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About your questions:

• If you want to find out if your blotter contained LSD you can use an Erlich's reagent test.

• Your reaction to cannabis can change over time, for sure.

• 5-htp could be a good thing temporarily, by providing your body with the precursor to synthesize serotonin. This will help if you are depleted of serotonin, but you won't want to take it indefinitely unless you had a problem before you took the acid. You will get all the tryptophan you need from a good diet. Bananas, oats, eggs, milk, sesame seeds (tahini, humous), sunflower seeds, cheese, potatoes - these are all good sources of tryptophan. Get some of that up your guts.

 

[Bearlove]

Three questions. Can I use remaining blotters to know if it was true LSD?

Im sorry to say this BUT if you were seriously as freaked out as your first messages indicated (and via our PM's) and you were so afraid that you had done lasting damage to your brain etc then you sure as hell would not be asking this question (this early anyway)

 

[mrdocat]

But I asked. (Cmon, man? Seriously, I am indeed afraid, but I'm from the very beggining trying to deal with it rationally. And it's a very important question.)

Well went to pharmacy, bought Complex B and took it. Then managed to eat a big chicken sandwitch at Burger King, wich made me happy. I was going to search the remedy because they didnt have it on the first pharmacy but then I started feeling bad so I went home and slept. I'm waking up now feeling just horrible. Dizzy, irrited, weak and with strange sensations though my body. Also my GF is asking for sex on the msn. It was never a problem for me, but this time I'm really afraid I'll not be capable...

Maybe a guy above is right, maybe I'm just sick of something else... maybe its just psychologic... maybe it's something I'll have to deal with forever... whatever it is I don't thing there's much I can do anymore besides accepting and waiting the comedown of the week to see how it evolves... =\ =\ =\

Thank you guys again. Every one of you don't matter what you said, because no one knows exactly what's going on, but just by saying something so I can read and think about it does help me a lot.
Peace.

 

[Solipsis]

Take it easy with the coffee, by the way. The last thing you need right now is a shot of caffeine.

Generally it's not good to suppress your consciousness after you have gotten more 'awakened' to things, but in your case I wouldn't recommend against a mild sedative. People have talked about diphenhydramine which should in Portugal be possible to find in Benaderma which is sometimes meant for skin conditions or other symptoms but it contains the same compound nonetheless, I have little to no experience with it. By a mild sedative I personally meant something like a benzo but I can imagine if you cannot get something like Valium or Xanax. Perhaps you know someone else who has it. Take only a little, just enough to take your edge off so that you can eat and not get weak. It helps with appetite and getting rest, not with the dizziness but than easily be the hunger.

Meditation is also awesome advice but if you have no experience it can be pretty hard to take a moment like this to start. Give it a try anyway.

Are you high strung naturally by the way? I don't mean that in a bad way, just asking to see if this may be expected for you after LSD.

LSD often does give residual effects (indeed Gerald) but like the main effects they are psychological or psychosomatic at best. It can make you feel your bodily energy, feel it flowing, and discovering that can have an impact on the delicacy of your state. I have no idea what the real nature is of these energy systems and try not to get either scientific or spiritual/esoteric about them but fact remains many people feel them when they take acid or meditate (or a lot of other stuff). It can be a lot to handle, take it easy.

My troll-sense beeped a little bit seeing this thread, the pseudo-hysteria and the 4 pages it accumulated but I don't really think that is really the case.

 

[mrdocat]

Yes I actually was thinking about that myself, but while I love the attention you are giving me, you can delete all posts if you want, and I can post pics of me, of the blotters, logs with my friends, trolling is really not my intention, I just want to get better.

I am kinda sad now seems like it will really never go away, I've already promised many many things if I come back to normal but as the time passes I realize how brain is such a complex structure and how maybe it had just been modified and I'll have to deal with it.

I want to ask you guys a thing, please... lets SUPPOSE my brain was chemically modified by the drug. What, exactly, medically talking, could have happened? I mean, LSD is a molecule and molecules can't do magic things. If something happened, certainly we can suppose what it was. Like, maybe it damaged some kind of receptor? Maybe it's stuck on a receptor? Maybe it changed my hormonal levels? I know I'm probably talking something absurd, cuz I'm not a neurocientist, but lets just SUPPOSE something has actually happened, and I'm not saying it had, ok, just supposing, what you guts think it could have been?

 

[ricardo08]

Seriously, if you're going to freak out this much I'd think carefully about experimenting many more with drugs in the future, or at least try and learn from this for next time. We've all had some horrible experiences before, similar to this, the key to it is just to ride it out and not think into too much. Your mind is powerful enough to exaggerate these feelings x100. Just relax and follow the advice given to you in this thread. But most importantly RELAX. This is essential.

Good luck with it all man. Peace.

 

[mrdocat]

Peace man. Only to add to the thread: just used a stepper for 1 hour and felt nothing at all. Every single time I did this I felt a very veeery good sensation after ('runner high') but not this time. I'm just somewhat dizzy.

I've spent some time (while stepping) searching. I think LSD triggered a depression. This makes totally sense. So I've decided. I'll consult a specialist and tell him everything. He is a very good and experienced specialist and whatever it is he will certainly know how to handle my problem better than I. I'm very calm ATM.

Thanks you all.

 

[Solipsis]

Don't try to understand where the big change would be visible, if it's hormones or receptors or brain structure or whatever. The important things to remember are that for a good number of people a psychedelic as powerful as LSD can change their psychology including perspective/outlook or a better term to use 'paradigm'. It's probably not really visible on any PET, MRI or whatever kind of scan - it's not like you are radically rewired into another person... yet you might never be the same as before (I know I am not). But that can be a good thing! Trust me.

Right now it's all a bit much and very confusing maybe, but you don't have to get a grip on everything immediately. Have some faith and it will come in time. I know something like this can come as a shock but please, don't panic about damage done or something like that. It's not unimaginable to feel like that but it has a tinge of hypochondria to it. I don't mean to get you down, I say that so that perhaps you will look it up if you don't know it and understand that at least a big part of it is your overreaction and that you are in control of your feelings rather than victimized by circumstances.

And I didn't really think you were a troll, I said I didn't. But overreacting can seem similar to it. I don't blame you for feeling or acting the way you are - and frankly IMO no one here should. Why? Because the situation you are in IS a result of converging causality and consequences and it is just the way it is. One of the first things to do for you is to accept that, and feel your influence to choose what happens next.

Damn that paradox of free will ha

edit:
About depression: I said I am okay with what was triggered by my trips and I am, but there are also problems that came with the territory for me personally.
About you: Depression can be what happened, I think that's true, although actual depression is only 'valid' to call as such if it sustains for at least two months or so. It doesn't mean I don't believe you are not feeling okay, you can definitely have depressed or anxious symptoms (okay you're calm right now I see) but for all we know it's only transient, time will tell.
Only you can determine if you need a psychologist to figure stuff out right now, a psychiatrist is probably too much and I don't think medication is a good idea this soon.

With things like LSD latent psychological material / issues come up to the surface. You didn't mention any by name but it's very possible that you are dealing with old pains right now, even if you don't recognize the reason right now. It can benefit you to look into yourself to find that reason and you can come out better than ever. A psychologist might help you with this, though personally I find it pretty soon for anything more than caring for yourself and really giving yourself a chance to get pointed out what is going on.

I guess listen to your body and mind, and do what you feel you need to.

 

[adrian89987]

After my first time tripping, I became very existential and somewhat depressed for a good few months. Eventually I overcame it and am now happier for it.

Like Solipsis said, a trip can COMPLETELY change your way of thinking.

 

[killermunchies]

This thread is getting out of hand IMO. You took a drug and you have a physical hangover from it. You feel off which is making you anxious. The anxiety getting the best of you. It's also possible you're sick on top of everything. There is a 99.9% chance you didn't damage your brain. Acid won't damage your brain in this dosage nor will anything else that is commonly sold as acid. It's true that acid can change the way you look at the world, but you seem to suffering physical issues too. No one can tell you exactly what's wrong with you but just give it a little time. In all likelihood, you'll come back to this thread in a week or two and laugh. Just live as normally as possible. Also, talking to a therapist or a trusted doctor should be helpful too. To my knowledge, no one has ever taken 2 tabs and ended up permanently brain damaged. Subtly changed, maybe, but not chronically depressed.

 

[Bearlove]

But I asked. (Cmon, man? Seriously, I am indeed afraid, but I'm from the very beggining trying to deal with it rationally. And it's a very important question.)

Four pages of help me Im fucked/never going to be the same again etc then, before your even back to normal - should I just do it again (to find out if its LSD). :D

It simply highlights how frantic you were at the start of this thread and where you are now. (we all told you )

have fun, glad your ok

Bear

 

[GBM]

I would advise against melatonin... most pills of it you buy are overdosed which gives most people a VERY dysphoric trance like state with bizarre terrible dreamlets, followed by more inability to sleep.

True but not everyone has trazodone or zopiclone in their arsenal of prescriptions, and melatonin can be bought at walmart and it helps most people sleep

 

[bluffythefluffy]

The fears you are experiencing are fairly normal.

They in no way signify that your body chemistry has changed.

LSD is a pretty well studied drug and it simply does not cause loss of physical enjoyment of exercise. Nor does it cause hormonal changes.


You are feeling "off" because you experienced a dramatic change in your perception of reality while on LSD. Things seem different now because, in relation to your new experience, they are.

You just need to relax. The world is the same as it ever was. Your body is the same body as before. Of course these things are in constant flux, but that was always the case.

Everything is okay.

 

[mrdocat]

Thanks you all for the advises and words. Also, Hah, very nice reading.
The nausea is gone and I had a full continuous night of sleep. My mind is still a bit foggy and it's still irritating to be on the computer, though. It would definitely be painly to work (I work on PC) but for the first time I feel I'm able to.

Let me say, what a strong trip. I mean, on it's peak I was gifted with the strongest storm my city saw in the last times, so I borrowed a bike from a friend and cycled around with the storm blasting in patterns and shapes, the lightning bursting and the wind almost knocking me off, I felt like the world was ending over me and that to flee everything I had to do was to keep balance and go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I just forgot everything else and I can describe this as one of the most awesome sensations of freedom and strength of my life. But, while still a great experience, it was exactly the opposite of what I expected it to be: a peaceful relaxing day of meditation and self learning in my room, with very strong full-color cosmic visuals, maybe even seeing strange entities like some erowid reports suggested. I mean, visually, I just saw some objects breathing, changing shapes and holographic kaleidoscopes all around. And while I expected no body or mindstate altering at all, the whole world, while not so different visually, seemed absolutely different conceptually, so I had a very strong will to go outside and explore everything, and I felt very energetic with strong sensations of pleasure though all my body.

Soo, ok. I think I will be fine. I'll do something outside now because staying here, as I said, is really frustrating. My vision is not OK at all. Thank you all again. I mean, seriously, I'm too much grateful. This topic helped me greatly.
Peace.

EDIT: ok guys don't know what happened but I'm really afraid atm, I thought I was better but I am definitely NOT normal, I can't work I can't use the PC my mind is completly foggy, my vision is strange, some lights are unusually strange it's not clever, and it feels like I lost all my intelligence, confidence and happiness, and noone knows what I have and noone will ever know, because brain is such a complex structure, I'll never be who I was before, I was so happy, I am not happy, I'm going to the specialist today and that was calming me down, but what can he do, he'll only give me things to alter even more my brain, but no way damn molecules will be able to bring my brain back to how it was, molecules are not intelligent they can't build, they can only destroy, only nature can build, I fucked my whole life there's no comeback. My options are: 1. get used to this state... but this state is HORRIBLE it's painly it's depressive it's like a prison. 2. go on talk with the psychian so he will give me remedies that will just alter more and more my brain and I'll be further and further away from who I was. It's loss loss my life is over ='(

 

[We are all ONE]

Sounds like a good first trip to me
Also , why in every thread is it : OMG I tripped 8:01 hours, its a DoX!!

Anyhow, first time dude, like anything else is going to be the most overwhelming, exciting, scary, stressful, fun, deep, etc.

Throw all those intensified emotions in a bucket and of course your going to have a hang over.

See you next time!

 

[Timothy Leary]

The amount of DOx chems being sold as LSD is usually very low in most places, the majority of "LSD" is indeed LSD. If you want to be more sure compare the size of the blotter you took to the usual LSD blotter which is 1/4 inch. Another indication is taste, if it had VERY little to no taste then you can be almost positive it was LSD, it is the only thing I know of with no taste at normal dosages. If you got a DOx then you should be able to remember the unpleasing of putting it on your tongue, it would have been very bitter.

Now, even if you took a DOx, (which is the only thing active at a low enough dose to fit on a blotter paper besides acid; lets not go into benzoyl 2C chems or the flies, they are extremely rare) you are going to be absolutely fine. There is the possibility of negative reactions to DOx compounds but you would have to have some preexisting medical condition like very high blood pressure or a heart condition for something bad to happen at the dose you had. I would expect that you would have had to have taken at LEAST 10-20 times the mid range recreational dose (1 tab of acid does not equal one midrange dose, it is more like 1.5-2 for most people, blotter is very weak nowadays) which is a hell of a lot more than you took. I mean people have taken like 20 X overdoses of DOI and come through ok.

Phenethylamines tend to have a bit harsher of a hangover, after 16 mg of 2C-E and a great experience I felt exhausted the next day, I barely remember the hangover. Haven't tried LSD but other tryptamines make me a bit tired and floaty the next day and I almost always have a very mild headache, but nothing bad. Of course some people feel this more than others. This might all be psychosomatic, (happens to me) due to the psychological inertia from some revelation, or just normal LSD "hangover." Honestly I would find it odd if someone was not at least a little bit off or mentally slow the day after taking a psychedelic.

For most things after effects should be almost nothing 24 hours later and completely gone in 36 hours after the initial dose; assuming a good nights sleep occurred somewhere in that time frame. If you took a DOx chemical then it may stretch on to a maximum of 48 hours.

 

[mrdocat]

I'm on the third day already...! 52 hours after I took it...

 

[DwayneHoover]

3rd day of WHAT? Feeling bad and not normal, like a hangover? Dont know what to tell you... except LSD *CANNOT* "damage your brain". Its probably all a result of sleep deprivation and having such an intense trip your first time. But again, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE for LSD to have caused any sort of brain damage. Have you been sleeping and eating since then? LSD for me has always felt very clean if it was real, and I felt pure and clean and even BETTER physically after it wore off in 8 hours or so. I still think you are over reacting and its just a combination of overexcitement and sleep deprivation, and you psyching YOURSELF into having all these symptoms. Quit thinking about it constantly, and frankly just accept that for you for whatever reason there will be some side effects that might take a week to get over. You are working yourself into a frenzy and need to just stop it. YOUR BRAIN IS OK! Perhaps you need to just get away from the computer. Some exercise might help re-normalize things by increasing metabolism and blood flow and boosting endorphins... try going on a jog or riding a bike or going to the gym to raise your heartrate for 30mins once or twice a day, that can always work wonders. The human body and brain have a remarkable ability to adapt and correct themselves if an imbalance has occured.

Perhaps you might try getting some standardized Ginseng Extract (health food store,m pharmacy, store, or the vitamin isle of most grocery stores). It is what is known as an "Adaptogen" and can accelerate this adjustment/correction/re-balancing process in your body and brain.

Also, a supplement called Rhodiola can be VERY effective at boosting oxygen utilization, reducing signs of physical and mental stress, and boosting Dopamine in the brain, acting as a fairly potent herbal anti-depressant. This is usually only found at health food/vitamin stores however.. occasionally might see it in the supplement isle at a drug store.

Try getting both of those, perhaps they will help your system readjust.