Bupe Please help. i used oxy as a one off & wondering if i can take bupe now

[Buiscuitvader]

thanks for ya quick reply tricomb im not feeling real well. I rarely touch meth. & i know exactly why. cuz every time i take it i usually mix it with some alcohol & the next day puts me off doing it again in a hurry

ok do u thnk 4mg would be safe? when i rarely dose oxy I usually do 80mg & I do 400mg of codeine about once a week
if i break it into quarters how long should i wait before i have another dose if i still dont feel well>?

according to wikipedia opiate converter 8mg bupe = 160mg of oxy. shit that's alot.
i should be ok with 4mg i hope

i didnt sleep at all last night & i drank alot so u can imagine that i need some releif. I have a headache from lack of sleep!

are u sure that participated wd only happens to ppl who dose opiates daily or most days?
last thing i need is to take something that will make me feel worse!

8mg bupe=120mg oxy??? damn... I remember when a roxi would do the trick, orally.

 

[ms4104]

Taking large doses liek you are will speed the process of 'losing the magic' up like crazy. If there was any high to be had from bupe you killed it lol.

Also if you are not dependent physically on an opiate you can do what you did.. take oxycodone and bupe in the same day in that order.

Andf yeayh I swithced from 80mg methadone daily to 12mg bupe which was more than enoguh.. taking 32mg to try and get high is just plain uninformed to put it nicely.

 

[Anon54]

I just got a sub under my tongue atm

just to clear things up i didnt realize they were meant for subligual use so i took them orally given only a bioavailbilty of 16% no 40-50% (I think they are the bioavailabilitys but correct me if im wrong)
actually could someone tell me the different ROA bioavailabilitys of bupe cuz im holding it under my tongue this time but i took it orally last time cuz like i said nobody told me the correct way of taking them

I started at 4mg. but had no effect & thats why i ended up taking 32mg but because my ROA was only a 1/3 as strong as what it should be it was only like taking 8mg anyway

 

[ms4104]

If you are expecting to get high and you have any opiate tolerance what so ever I wouldn't count on getting high even if you shot it.

Subling is around 30% maybe a little higher I believe.

 

[DooMMooD]

You should not be having a very noticeable effect, or "high" so to speak! This is why you are just wasting the bupe! You should just feel normal, level, evened out, so to speak.

I take bupe everyday and the most i'll take daily is 3mg. I think 8mg is overkill, let alone 32mg! (bio availability or not...) I do have some people I go to my suboxone clinic on more than me a day and i even think thats crazy. I dont care how bad your habit was at one point, getting down to 2-4mg/daily is not hard.

This is honestly why I feel that people should not be messing around with bupe on their own. Yes a bit hypocritical coming from a drug user in recovery but still, no one knows how the fuck to use it correctly! And i fear we will have a lot of problems with this drug as it becomes more and more prevalent every day.

 

[ksmethadone]

You have to go to a "suboxone clinic" and you live in boston or NY? You can't just go and get a script? I disagree with the "ceiling" being 4mg, as I was on 16 and it was the perfect dose for me. Then again, I had a bundle and a half a day habit. I really wish you people who are "detoxing" from oxy, hydro, etc.. wold stay the fuck away from bup bc it's gonna lead to more regs and higher prices and keep it away from ppl who are REALLY fucked up and really need it. What the hell has happened to this site? I used to feel like a pretty avg person with my 1.5 bundle/ 1 gram of posh speedball habit. Now there are ppl here "worrying about coming off 80 mg of oxy that they don't even use every day? Worried about coming off hydro? Try comiing off 180 mg methadone cold on a jail cell floor. Trying shooting coke until you start hearing "the bells of st. mary's and wondering if your heart will explode this time. People like THAT are the ones who need bupe. Almost everyone else I've read about on here just needs a good kick in the balls. Yes you can flame away at me and no, I don't think I'm the ultimate "hard ass," but jesus christ what happened in 4 yrs? Suddenly this site is full of 14 yr old kids who reached into mom's PMS headache stash for the first time and are worried they're doing on mom's 15 mg codeine/asap. Certainly not saying you should "aspire" to be real hard core user, but if you don't have the propensity that makes you do things like cross san yisidro and come back praying el perro no smell your chiva, or get on an a 767 with a few bundles in one of your film cases,a metal spoon taped to a small yogurt, and a 25 g with the needle detached from the syringe (the metal needle is too small for the machine to pick up but always have a diabetic carrying card just in case) so an hr into the flight you can make your way to the bathroom with your little carry on bag, undo your belt and get off at 30,000 get over the sierra-nevada (ok, I am a bit proud of that one as risky as it was), then be glad you are normal and go...live life like normal ppl do.

 

[iSTONED]

If they are the pills them sniff them. The BA of instranasal is around 60-70% Why would you swallow them haha? It's such a waste. I think knowing that there used for under the tongue is pretty obvious assuming the person who gave it to you told you. 32mg is way to too much. Actually a dumb amount all at once. Be more careful before you die.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Ksmethadone - Good post, i very much agree with you, even if the ideal maintenance dose for me is 8mg. Anyways i just wanted to mention...

In the future it would be better if you broke your posts up into short paragraphs or something so it would be easier on the eyes. Especially because you've got good stuff to say