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Benzos Please be responsible and don't abuse benzodiazepines!

Bumping again. I just realized that one of the silliest and useless drug effects are known as "delusions of sobriety." A better effect of a drug would be wow that worked strongly. lol Why take a drug that makes one feel normal yet is not? I get it too. Every genuine alprazolam or etizolam I take I always feel just about normal, except if I fall asleep or look back on the night before. I thought I did not feel much yet can't remember anything.

I say this as someone else I know online kept taking lorazepam and got addicted and is having some hell coming off after only 6 months,. This person felt the drug was not doing much but help him sleep but stopping this drug, that felt like it did not do much, is absolute hell. I wish I could have warned to at least only take them 2-3 time a week and not every night. Why do people ask me after the fact? I am not even experienced.

I think perspective is needed. I have done some research the last year as I wanted a benzo handy for occasions. So in that research I am astounded at how willingly people are to take them everyday without a doctor prescription. As a med they can be lifesavers. I also know someone with stomach issues to where only a benzo stops the pain. I totally understand that. I don't understand people that know the risks and say screw it and do not have a doctor to chat with. I know most doctors are useless but some are good if you speak and communicate well.

Sorry for the bump, I just wanted to say one of the shittiest drug effects I can think of, if I were to think of one, is called delusions of sobriety. Nice effect there Mr Drug. lol

I also wonder what happened to some of these BL members that were on 50-100 mgs of clonazolam a day. I hope they are all well and stepped down slowly. Would love to read successful updates from them. One or two ended up in the BL Shrine so I don't have to wonder.
 
Thanks for this write up cream. 10+ years ago now I was prescribed 1mg Xanax per day for insomnia & GAD (I actually would of been better off on Klonopin imo) because I was having to split up my dose for all day relief. I might be one of the luckier ones but after 2 years my doc just up and disappeared and the new one weaned me off with kpins. I jumped at .5mg and just felt a little rebound anxiety/insomnia

Every now and then I'd take 2-3mg to get a buzz but not often. I've always respected benzos more than opiates because of the horror stories of WD. And I've been on dope runs shooting 1.5g a day or more at times.

My younger brother on the other hand really got into benzos heavily for about 2 years. The 2nd year was really heavy after his gf broke up with him. I'm talking 5-10mg in a day of alp/Clonazepam. Managed to crash 4 cars in a span of like 15 months. 2 DUIs, 1 got dropped by shear luck. Ended up ODing from benzo/dope combos 3 different times and ended up on a ventilator 2x. Surprisingly no brain damage. He's gotten clean now no more benzos for him, just the occasional 1-2mg of bupe.

Please respect the benzos. I've been seriously wanting to get back on a very small dose of Klonopin for my really bad GAD social anxiety but being on subs I gonna be hard AF to get a script. Even tho someone stable on subs will handle a benzo just fine in *most cases
 
I have sworn off Benzodiazepines and I very rarely swear off anything.
Even if they were to be prescribed to me I'd ask about possible alternatives.
Recreationally? Forget it. There are plenty of much better and much safer options.
 
jasperkent said:
I have sworn off Benzodiazepines and I very rarely swear off anything.
Even if they were to be prescribed to me I'd ask about possible alternatives.
Recreationally? Forget it. There are plenty of much better and much safer options.
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There is a measure of disagreement about the nature of benzodiazepine withdrawal. It wasn't a vast conspiracy that it took decades for the medical community to consider it.

There are no other tranquilizers that are almost impossible to overdose on. The invention of this class of drug was a huge leap over barbiturates, which are easily lethal.

That said, they are mild enough that you can use them to mask taking too much of meth or coke or whatever. As with every drug, keep it under control. But anxiety is part of the human condition. Alcohol is arguably the reason agriculture began. Valium is certainly better than drinking all day.
 
Sure, for your health it is. But the withdrawals are horrific if you want to get off. But yeah, I agree that daily diazepam is better than daily alcohol in amounts ;larger than a drink with dinner. But alcohol has the advantage of being able to use it chronically without withdrawals, unless you drink all day long. Whereas daily benzo use will lead to dependence/withdrawals inevitably.
 
I’ve managed to find a doctor for the long term willing to help me with my GI issues. While I’m certain that he’ll ensure my well-being, I still implore all of you to use benzodiazepines responsibly, or not at all. Doctors have been cutting many patients off despite legitimate medical needs for chronic illness, and it is the recreational users and abusers who are bringing BZDs to national and world attention.

Please y’all, be safe, and do not abuse benzodiazepines.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
I’ve managed to find a doctor for the long term willing to help me with my GI issues. While I’m certain that he’ll ensure my well-being, I still implore all of you to use benzodiazepines responsibly, or not at all. Doctors have been cutting many patients off despite legitimate medical needs for chronic illness, and it is the recreational users and abusers who are bringing BZDs to national and world attention.

Please y’all, be safe, and do not abuse benzodiazepines.
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It is tragic how benzodiazepines are the current demonized drug. SSRIs will be next, and likely second generation antipsychotics. I personally wish I never got on benzos - life just flies by and they cloud your judgment more than you think. But ultimately, the winds of change are here. The black market is too risky with fentanyl, and it will be increasingly hard to find a doctor willing to give you a long term taper. It's all about liability. Every antipsychotic has the risk of sudden death and serious irreversible problems, but they aren't a controlled substance and have no recreational value. And hence no liability. The same is true for SSRIs even though 30 years later the evidence is clear they are no better than placebo for anxiety.

But sooner rather than later benzos will likely strictly be used in the ER and before surgery, and a lot of people will be forced to cold turkey quit. So I agree, the best course of action is not to use them at all in this day and age.

There is some irony that life today is more stressful than it has ever been in my 44 years, yet there are really no legal, pharmaceutical drugs anymore. You just have to tough it out as best you can. Maybe they'll invent something, but it's been a long time since a truly novel psychotropic drug came to market. All have been analogues of some other drug that's been around for 50 years or more.
 
I'm another person who wouldn't last long without my benzodiazepines, both for seizure prevention and severe anxiety that accompanies my high functioning autism. If the ensuing seizures didn't kill me, I'd have to take matters into my own hands. I have no desire to end my life, but there's a limit to how much suffering i can tolerate.

Please be careful with your benzodiazepines, prescription or otherwise...
 
One thing about benzos is the fact that you don't actually NEED them. Like you don't need Viagra either. They just improve the quality of your life. You won't die if you don't get them. So, unless you have a very empathic doctor you probably won't get them these days.
 
Survival0200 said:
One thing about benzos is the fact that you don't actually NEED them. Like you don't need Viagra either. They just improve the quality of your life. You won't die if you don't get them. So, unless you have a very empathic doctor you probably won't get them these days.
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Well, unless you're dependent and you suddenly can't get them. Then you can die.
 
I've never understood why people enjoy abusing this class of drugs so much.

In fact, benzos, since they lower neurotransmitter activity are kind of counterproductive if you're trying to get high or euphoric.


I'm tired of having a government that thinks it's their business what I can & should put in my body. Especially when I can go out and easily buy one of the most dangerous & shittiest of drugs (alcohol) and kill myself with that or cigarettes, legally. While they rake in tons of profit off of me while I do it.

It's pure insanity that any person can think in their head that alcohol is okay for everyone to abuse but opioids & benzos & psychedelics, etc.. are totally wrong & bad.


It's hilarious when I'm on youtube and an opioid-demonization ad pops up, saying "if you or some on you know is an opioid addict, you're at risk for death!"... and then the following ad is an ad for a drug that sucks & WILL kill you, called booze, which is celebrated like the holy grail in society & people totally don't see the hypocrisy there.

Long term opioid use is waaaay safer than long term alcohol use. Opioids also keep me from craving alcohol which I find rather interesting.



They want to eliminate people's ability to feel better & actually feel joy and peace & replace it with all their disgusting disabling psychiatric drugs that zombify you into compliance.
They will keep pushing to make drugs that work for "pain" or "anxiety" without actually helping you feel good or getting you high (like opioids do) & also with a fun boat load of (possibly permanent) side effects.

We all really need to speak out more about our bodily autonomy if we want anything to change.
They are already moving on to injectable versions of drugs that you can't even get out of your body for days or months.
What if one day everything ends up like this to "deter abuse"?

If an opioid helps my depression or a benzo helps mine (and other's) anxiety, we should have every right to access them.

The drug war is a war on YOU and your BODY and MIND.

They would rather lock you up for life rather than allow you to medicate your own self or experience that evil side effect of "Feelings of well-being". Think about that for a minute.
At least in the US that is, which prides itself so much on being the land of the "free".
 
Survival0200 said:
One thing about benzos is the fact that you don't actually NEED them. Like you don't need Viagra either. They just improve the quality of your life. You won't die if you don't get them. So, unless you have a very empathic doctor you probably won't get them these days.
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You have no idea what your talking about. Comparing benzos to Viagra, really?
 
Survival0200 said:
One thing about benzos is the fact that you don't actually NEED them. Like you don't need Viagra either. They just improve the quality of your life. You won't die if you don't get them. So, unless you have a very empathic doctor you probably won't get them these days.
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You could die,if you on big dose.small dose withdrawl would bring you just sufferings.You can or can't find em with doc.prescription,if you live in certain areas.Never used Viagra or from that sort.Even don't know are they P.O.M. or not
 
watermellon said:
You have no idea what your talking about. Comparing benzos to Viagra, really?
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Well, I have some idea. I've taken them before for anxiety. My current doctor won't prescribe them, so I have to manage without. It's hard, but in the end, I can live without. I just meant that they aren't as essential as e.g. antibiotics.
 
Never had any desire to take benzos recreationally, there’s just not enough to them to abuse them. I add alcohol, it gets better but still nothing that I would take that often.
 
Ref the Op- I have sympathy for your problem, but you kind of want your cake and to eat it too. You said as much. I would have committed suicide if it wasn’t for my benzoyl isey, and I never got it from a doctor. The only way to solve this issue is to make significant efforts to end the war on drugs. That mean spending less time of forums like this and more time doing actual things in the real world. This is a forum, primarily, for drug users. Supposed heartfelt please for us not to use drugs so you can are, frankly, very insulting. We all have our reasons. Don’t pretend your reason is superior to mine, and don’t pretend yours is more legitimate. Your post is quite self serving and incredibly pathetic, especially when you admit to using benson for other, less doctor approved reasons. It’s quite insulting.
 
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