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Planning on rolling two days in a row, and I want to do it responsibly. Feedback?

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I plan on rolling two days in a row for a festival. I have a gram of really good MDMA (reportedly 82% pure), and this is my plan for the two days:


1. Take Magnesium one hour before I ingest (http://www.iherb.com/source-naturals-magnesium-bis-glycinate-120-tablets/20846)
2. Take Vitamin C on hour before (http://www.iherb.com/rainbow-light-gummy-vitamin-c-slices-tangy-tangerine-flavor-90-gummies/40005)
3. Take ALA with the mdma (http://www.iherb.com/doctor-s-best-best-alpha-lipoic-acid-150-mg-120-capsules/2)
4. Take .15g (150mg) of mdma
5. After 1 hour, take ALA and .05g (50mg) again
6. Every hour take ALA again (repeat until roll is completed)

So I plan on taking .4 throughout both days and then I'm not going to roll for a good amount of time.

Can any experienced users give me feedback on this? I've rolled before but I've never re-dosed in a single day and I've never rolled 2 consecutive days.
 
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Here is a very informative post on MDMA supplementation http://www.reddit.com/r/DrugNerds/comments/15m9sf/mdma_supplementation

Obviously, I would have to say don't do it, but in case you do then I'd try to do as much of the following as possible (not necessarily in any order):

Test your MDMA with marquis reagent THIS IS ESSENTIAL, also test with Mecke, Mandelin and Simons reagents if possible. Nobody can say it is 'good quality' other than yourself after seeing the test results directly. Forgive me if you already have done this but I dint think you mentioned it in your post

Do as much of the supplementation from the post above as you can. I would prioritise getting R-ALA rather than ALA and magnesium glycinate rather than magnesium oxide, over the supplements not in the 'essential' category, though obviously take those too if you can. I can really vouch for how great those supplements are for helping with the after effects and side effects MDMA, and really boosts any afterglow

Eat healthily for as long as possible before and after your doses, I mean days or weeks, not hours. Get your 5 a day from a variety of fruit and veg, eat fresh meals, and get your omega 3 daily for brain function. An easy way to get omega 3 that's probably cheaper than supplements is to buy a bag of milled flaxseed and sprinkle a tablespoon into your cereal every morning. Tastes like nothing and is an easy 1 gram or more of omega 3. Be hydrated as well, 2 litres a day. You'll be surprised how much better you feel generally by taking simple steps to be healthy like this, your brain and body will be working a lot better and will be more equipped to deal with the MDMA.

Dose sensibly and only redose once, but it looks like you've got that sorted

Drink an isotonic sports drink like powerade during your roll to keep electrolytes in balance

Take 5-htp 100mg with 400mg EGCG before bed daily for 3-7 days as is stated in the supplementation guide. There is also some evidence to suggest taking St johns wort may upregulate serotonin receptors that have been down regulated by MDMA use. I can say I've definitely experienced some benefit from taking 330mg of good quality SJW extract tablets 3x a day for three weeks after MDMA. I noticed it helped me recover more quickly if i had overused MDMA and was having a multi-week comedown, and it also brought magic back to MDMA the next time I used it compared to when I hadnt. I'd say to start taking it 48 hours after your last 5-htp dose (you shouldnt take the two together), and don't take MDMA for at least 2 weeks after your last St johns wort dose. Also when I had loss of focus and concentration from MDMA, a good quality ginkgo supplement helped, around 100-300mg per day

Take at least 3 months off MDMA afterwards, preferably half a year or more

I think that about covers it. I wouldn't be surprised if you could get away with doing this and still have an amazing afterglow if you take the right precaution! Just never make a habit of this kind of dosing, or a habit of using MDMA more than ~4 times a year in general. And again, the ultimate advice is NOT to dose 2 days in a row. I mean I follow all the above steps any time I take MDMA anyway, it still won't be covering you 100%
 
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mate could you explain me why do you Take ALA with the mdma and then . After 1 hour, take ALA and .05g (50mg) again Every hour take ALA again (repeat until roll is completed)

I ´ve read the link so I known those are antioxidants ....

you will be doing fine, you got it all cover detail by detail, cheers for that
I have friends that had taken a lot more than that over lets say 4 days so from my point of view you will survive!
 
I think the reason ALA need redosing is because it has a very short half life in the body, and to prevent damage (it's been proven in animal tests that it does work), you need ALA in your system as long as there is still MDMA in your system. Racemic ALA has a shorter half life and requires redosing every hour at a higher dose, whereas the R-ALA isomer has a longer half life and a lower dose can be used, every two hours (the right isomer is the most beneficial anyway I think)

Yeah you will certainly survive, but why feel potentially shit or even lose the magic when you could potentially even grab an afterglow from this and feel much more comfortable that you haven't done as much damage :)
 
I'd have to say, regardless of your reasoning, just don't do it. I don't think it will be worth it in the short-term, and it just increases the risk of doing damage.

I did it quite a few times back in my day. How I regret it.
 
Without reading your post in its entirety: You cant roll 2 days in a row safely. Get your head outta your ass. You MAY be ok....... but its not worth the risk.
 
OP listen to epic11 he knows what's up.
The title of this thread even sounds dumb. If you know anything about Mdma you would not want to roll 2 consecutive days.
 
Pretty much what the above posters have said. The best advice would be not to do it, as even if you do it with all the precautions, you're still not going to have the best time and it'll almost certainly be a waste.

Personally, I'd find something to replace the MDMA for the first day, and then roll the second (obviously tolerance might be another issue to consider depending on what you took on day 1).
 
planning two days in a row and doing it responsibly? dont make me laugh

will u notice anything? probably not
 
trozzle said:
Pretty much what the above posters have said. The best advice would be not to do it, as even if you do it with all the precautions, you're still not going to have the best time and it'll almost certainly be a waste.

Personally, I'd find something to replace the MDMA for the first day, and then roll the second (obviously tolerance might be another issue to consider depending on what you took on day 1).
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Okay I've decided to only roll on one of the days. I will probably roll the first day because I like the lineup for the festival much more on that day compared to the second day. However, that detail doesn't matter.

I will dose .2g and then re-dose with .1g since I'm only rolling one day now.

What's your experience with tripping at a festival?
 
Laugh7 said:
Okay I've decided to only roll on one of the days. I will probably roll the first day because I like the lineup for the festival much more on that day compared to the second day. However, that detail doesn't matter.

I will dose .2g and then re-dose with .1g since I'm only rolling one day now.

What's your experience with tripping at a festival?
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Fun! I flipped with MDA and LSD at a fest before. It went well. Little intense at times. But it was just what I wanted it to be.
 
Agreed, tripping is great at festivals, provided you're someone that can handle trips well. One of my friends discovered that he doesn't enjoy trips at festivals, he spent the entire day hanging onto me, getting separation anxiety if i went more than a couple of meters from him. I had a fantastic day, even if i was a walking, talking, tripping safety blanket!
 
Laugh7 said:
Okay I've decided to only roll on one of the days. I will probably roll the first day because I like the lineup for the festival much more on that day compared to the second day. However, that detail doesn't matter.

I will dose .2g and then re-dose with .1g since I'm only rolling one day now.

What's your experience with tripping at a festival?
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My personal experience of tripping at a psytrance festival (Dragon Dreaming - bush doof) are somewhat limited unfortunately. One catastrophic evening on ~2.4mg (FUCKING WAY TOO MUCH) 25i-NBOMe where the entire time I was either feeling like I was literally frying, trying to ignore GI discomfort, or generally fighting the effects. Actually managed to pull myself almost all the way back to baseline MUCH sooner than should've been possible, for a few reasons (mostly furious at myself as I pretty much felt I ruined the girlfriend's night).

Otherwise earlier on that day I blew myself away on DMT a couple of times, though that doesn't necessarily count as tripping at a festival lol. Kinda immobilised.

Good choice on only rolling for one day though man, you won't regret it (well, you might feel like you do, but you'd certainly TRULY regret trying to roll both days imo).


Dunbarius said:
what festival are you going to?
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I'm not 100% sure on this, but I believe discussing specific festival attendance is against the MED rules. You can probably hint at it if you wish, but don't name it outright.
 
Laugh7 said:
Okay I've decided to only roll on one of the days. I will probably roll the first day because I like the lineup for the festival much more on that day compared to the second day. However, that detail doesn't matter.

I will dose .2g and then re-dose with .1g since I'm only rolling one day now.

What's your experience with tripping at a festival?
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Glad to hear, but the dose is still WAY too high. 300mg in a night? thats insane bro. 120 starter with a 60mg booster if you must redose. If 120 doesnt get you flying off TESTED and uncut product, your shit sucks.
 
Or you're someone like me with a naturally high tolerance to everything and you generally prefer a more intense roll? I do 200mg + 100mg and it's usually spot on
 
Laugh7 said:
I plan on rolling two days in a row for a festival. I have a gram of really good MDMA (reportedly 82% pure), and this is my plan for the two days:


1. Take Magnesium one hour before I ingest (http://www.iherb.com/source-naturals-magnesium-bis-glycinate-120-tablets/20846)
2. Take Vitamin C on hour before (http://www.iherb.com/rainbow-light-gummy-vitamin-c-slices-tangy-tangerine-flavor-90-gummies/40005)
3. Take ALA with the mdma (http://www.iherb.com/doctor-s-best-best-alpha-lipoic-acid-150-mg-120-capsules/2)
4. Take .15g (150mg) of mdma
5. After 1 hour, take ALA and .05g (50mg) again
6. Every hour take ALA again (repeat until roll is completed)

So I plan on taking .4 throughout both days and then I'm not going to roll for a good amount of time.

Can any experienced users give me feedback on this? I've rolled before but I've never re-dosed in a single day and I've never rolled 2 consecutive days.
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I've done MDMA for 2-3 days in a row at festivals loads of times, and I never felt shit because I was at a festival having fun. Contrary to one of the replies in this thread, I didn't regret it one bit. In fact, I have never ever known somebody to regret it, or experience anything other than a perhaps more prolonged comedown.

MDMA *does* work more than two days in a row. I'd reccomend 5-htp, just in case, or if youre prone to depression, but personally I feel great after festivals.

That's my experience, as somebody coming from a culture whereby this is extremely common place.
 
trozzle said:
Or you're someone like me with a naturally high tolerance to everything and you generally prefer a more intense roll? I do 200mg + 100mg and it's usually spot on
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I used to believe in the natural tolerance thing as well. It doesnt exist, its bollocks. Trust me. This is a very strange drug. It actually feels more intense with LESS. With more you just get a stoned mongy high where you forget everything. It feels good to an extent still, but its not as enjoyable as less. I wouldnt expect you to understand until you drop the dose. I have this battle with my friends all the time. I always go way harder then they do.........

Ive been on this forum for quite some time, and im sure there are some folks on here that can vouch, i know what im talking about. Ive gone through all the trials and tribulations with this shit.

If you need 200 + 100...........I stand by my statement. Your shit sucks.
 
I've tried dosing lower (150mg) and it was underwhelming honestly.

I've got tested crystal MDMA
of high purity. Obtained from very high up the chain so unlikely to have been cut and recrystalised at all. I've been using the exact same batch since beginning of last year, so we can rule variance out.

I'm seemingly the same with most psychoactive drugs, particularly tryptamines.
 
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