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Piracetam & Psychedelics

OK guys, quick question concerning pcetam+psychedelic combos.

I'm going to be eating some reportedly high potency shrooms tonight and I've been dosing 240 mg ginkgo+1-1.5 g piracetam+300-500 mg choline acetate (?)+300 mg's each acetyl and propionyl l-carnitines daily for about a month now.

Even with the maximum 12 hour half life, I'm still a little worried that I may be in for a psychedelic ass-whooping tonight. I'll be dosing the fungus (1 cap dried, chocolate covered, unkown weight) tonight at about 9 P.M. immediately prior to a glow-in-the-dark game of Ultimate Frisbee.

My friend who's shroom experience is on par with mine own told me that one of these chocolate covered caps had him tripping balls for a solid 6 hours and that he almost lost it. Now, I'm no pussy and I've had my ass handed to me by psychedelics before, but I don't want to go in over my head.

By taking this stack daily, have I set myself up for greatly potentiating the effects of psilocybin? Urgent advice needed.
 
It would be much simpler if you knew what the amount was in the mushroom chocolate. In my experience, they've contained around 2g each, which is quite a light dose. Although, the chocolates you have may/sound stronger. If your friend almost lost it on one chocolate, and you're worried about potentiation by the piracetam, why are you taking more?
 
Well, ya see, I only had one of the mushroom chocolates. It was actually a disappointment, something of a tease, I got to where I was tripping fairly hard but I was hoping to go deeper, and that never came. Very similar to my last experience with mushroom chocolates.

This is twice now with chocolates that I've been disappointed and I'm thinking I'll just stick to my 5-7 gram dried usual.
 
I also take piracetam every day. The only times I've noticed significant enhancement strong enough to change the dosage I need is when I take it rather directly before. If I take my usual piracetam in the morning (7:30am), and then take a psychedelic at night (11pm, for example), it behaves as it should. I mean, my trips tend to be very deep for me, but I attribute that more to my experience with them and my intentions, rather than the piracetam. it may have something to do with it, but let me tell you, none of my trips have been impacted NEARLY so much by piracetam as when I took it an hour before 18mg of 2C-E.
 
piracetam has confounding effects on the DMT experience.
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Hey Nano, any thoughts on piracetam and a MAOI. swim is pretty much on the organic dmt studies for the rest of 06.
 
Xorkoth said:
I also take piracetam every day. The only times I've noticed significant enhancement strong enough to change the dosage I need is when I take it rather directly before. If I take my usual piracetam in the morning (7:30am), and then take a psychedelic at night (11pm, for example), it behaves as it should. I mean, my trips tend to be very deep for me, but I attribute that more to my experience with them and my intentions, rather than the piracetam. it may have something to do with it, but let me tell you, none of my trips have been impacted NEARLY so much by piracetam as when I took it an hour before 18mg of 2C-E.
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Interestingly enough, I found out a couple days ago that my friend had neglected to mention that he'd dropped a couple grams of piracetam an hour before he ate his own mushroom chocolate. Obviously, this is why he was raving about the quality of the trip, he potentiated it. 8) Forgetful bastard.
 
how long before having a hallucinogen should you have nootropics like racetams. i have oxiracetam aniracetam and piracetam.
I have done it before but wanted to hear other reccommendations.
and also what are the best racetams to increase trips? aniracetam, oxiracetam, piracetam??? etc.
 
I'm inexperienced with the 'racetams aside from piracetam. All I can tell you is that piracetam potentiates psychedelics PLENTY, and you should take it maybe an hour before you take the psychedelic. But seriously, be careful and start way low on the psychedelic's dosage. The potentiation is seriously strong, and while some psychedelics are forgiving to increased dosages, others can be dangerous.
 
all y'all are starting to piss me off with the 'whats the best nootropic for tripping balls' questions.

nootrops are not meant for this. grrr.
 
Hence the reason I only take them in the morning. But I'm thinking it's better to educate than let some kid make a big mistake.

Out of curiosity, though, do you feel that there's actually something wrong with mixing, say, piracetam with a lower dose of a psychedelic than you'd usually take? If so, why? Health reasons? I've never really seen any data on this so I'm interested in your insight.
 
i have had racetams in high doses many times with mushrooms t-2 acid pills etc.. etc.. i know what i am doing just trying to get some other opinions.
fuck i want to get my bang for my buck.
 
Piracetam and Psychedelic RC's

Hey guys,

I've been taking 1,000 mg of piracetam every day since monday and im wondering if you think it will have a noticeable effect on the methylone I plan on taking tomorrow night (3 quarters over, party/bonding time with lady-friend yay!)

But yeah, i usually take 170mg of methylone, followed by a 70mg booster an hour later, but if anyone out there has experience with Piracetam and Methylone, (I've heard/read numerous accounts of the P potentiating the Methylone therefore requiring a smaller methylone dose)

basically, I don't want to take like 140 or 150 and have a total head-exploding, water-jet clammy hands, teeth chattering unpleasant experience.

I never did "attack" doses with piracetam and only take 1,000mg per day, so perhaps that is enough for tomorrow, or maybe I should take an attack dose, or spread out an attack dose on friday prior to the methylone consumption.

Any help on this dillemma would be great!

btw, I weigh 160lbs if that helps
 
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^"Attack dose" is a marketing gimmick to get you to consume more piracetam.

Piracetam is clinically proven to be effective at a dosage of 800mg per 12 hour period. Increasing the dose doesn't do anything but increase your risk of experiencing withdrawal effects such as myoclonic seizure when the compound is discontinued.

(Yes, piracetam has a clinically documented withdrawal syndrome -- despite how heavily its touted as being "completely safe" on the internet. It also possibly causes permanent changes to the permeability of the blood-brain barrier. That being said: I still think its a relatively safe compound to use, especially when compared with other commonly-used compounds; but its naive to assume it has no drawbacks. Neurologists have been aware of these adverse effects for a long time, especially in Europe where piracetam is employed in clinical practice quite frequently.)
 
^I hear it feels good man. :D

It seems to be a safe combination, not that we have any data on it one way or another. Anecdotal reports sound like good, safe fun though. Maybe lower your methylone dosage a bit-- 10-15% or so, to see how it feels.
 
I have heard that piracetam makes MDMA and other stimulants more euphoric and effective, even caffeine. I have never tried methylone but it probably will have similar effects.

I have been thinking lately about Psychs and Piracetam lately. I know Xorkoth said that he found it to potentiate 2C-E and that it makes the experience much more intense. He also said it wasn't completely pleasant (i.e. overly intense)

Does it make visuals stronger at lower doses or does it just potentiate the mental aspects of a psychedelic? I know not many people have messed around with this and that it is kind of unexplored territory; I'm just curious too see if anyone has more experiences/opinions to share on the subject.
 
I find that piracetam massively potentiates phenethylamines and amphetamines. Sometimes to the point of being ridiculous.

Like 800mg piracetam and 22mg 2C-I had me feeling like my eyes were gunna bug outta my head, and my whole reality was melting into a puddle of bleeding psychedelia. 800mg piracetam and one 20mg tablet of IR adderall keeps me stimulated for 10 or more hours.

Curiously enough, though, 800mg piracetam and 200mg MDMA was really smooth and felt much cleaner, more empathetic and intellectual, and far less monged-out and retarded than MDMA by itself.
 
OK cool so I take it that it definitely increases the visual aspect as well. :D
Looks like I might have to experiment with this.

What's the best time frame in your experience? I'm thinking I'll take 800mg Piracetam about 90 minutes before dosing 30mg 2C-C.
 
nanobrain said:
piracetam: ~3,000mg morning
l-phenylalanine: 1,000mg morning
caffeine: ~250mg via strong coffee in morning
selegeline: 5mg morning
centrophenoxine: 250mg morning
bromocriptine: 2.5mg morning
GHV (concentrated Gingko, Huperzine, Vinpocetine): 1 cap morning
ALA: 100mg morning
megapotency multivite, magnesium, tissue salts: afternoon
Hydergine: 2.5mg once weekly
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that GHV sounds good,what Huperzine & Vinpocetine do to you?
 
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