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Piracetam or 5htp to bring back the magic of the roll

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mark881

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I hear a lot about piracetam pre-MDMA. It makes your roll like the first one.

I also hear it can give you a killer headache, I lost the page of the supplement to take to counter this.

Also some people say 5htp - but I think that is post MDMA for sure...

Opinions? Dosage? What is the supplement to stop the piracetam headache?
 
Only use 5HTP after you have COMPLETELY come down from you roll, and use it the three days after.

For Piracetam, try dosing between 2 and 4 grams. The headache thing you are talking about only happens in some people and it is because piracetam lowers your Choline levels in your body, so if you buy a Choline supplement you will be fine :)

Nothing works better than time off though.
 
Tried pre-loading with piracetam twice. Did NOT make me roll like the first time. Didn't roll either time. The first time, I took less MDMA than normal because I had heard that the piracetam was supposed to be so amazing that you didn't need to. Didn't really work, but I had less of a comedown the next day so I figured I'd try it again next time. The next time, I took the normal amount of MDMA and it just didn't work. My boyfriend tried it both times with me and he found that it didn't work as well.
(Also note that these times were with tested MDMA that worked other times and also always 1 month or more apart)

5-HTP is good for post-MDMA if you get bad comedowns/hangovers. I always use 5-HTP the day after and sometimes the day after that. It can really help. I can be really emotional after using M so I find that's the best.
 
I've tried pre-loading with Piracetam and while it did seem to increase some effects (empathy and euphoria) to a a degree, it also blunted the body high, which is my favorite. It also made the high more "clear headed". My thoughts seemed more coherent and I could remember everything. I personally didn't enjoy that. I like feeling super fucked up when I roll. That's just me though, you may be fond of that attribute.
 
Hmmm...mixed reports then...I found positive reports here :

http://www.partyvibe.com/forums/ecstasy-mdma/45104-mdma-piracetam.html

http://international.drugabuse.gov/meetings/abstract-database/result/fn%3D%2526amp%3Bln%3D%2526amp%3Bsub%3D%2526amp%3Byr%3D0%2526amp%3Bcat%3D0%2526amp%3Bco%3D0%2526amp%3Breg%3D0%2526amp%3Bid%3D1184

Everything I read is that piracetam is a turbo-charger for your MDMA. And it seems it has + effects and no neg effects, quite awesome.

I am wondering if we use piracetam every time with MDMA, do we lose the magic?
 
ThatOn3Guy said:
I've tried pre-loading with Piracetam and while it did seem to increase some effects (empathy and euphoria) to a a degree, it also blunted the body high, which is my favorite. It also made the high more "clear headed". My thoughts seemed more coherent and I could remember everything. I personally didn't enjoy that. I like feeling super fucked up when I roll. That's just me though, you may be fond of that attribute.
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That's very interesting! I've tried it on three different occasions and every time I got an increased body high but it blunted the empathy, which is my favorite.

So we were both disappointed in piracetam but for exact opposite reactions!
 
avcpl said:
That's very interesting! I've tried it on three different occasions and every time I got an increased body high but it blunted the empathy, which is my favorite.

So we were both disappointed in piracetam but for exact opposite reactions!
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I'm looking for the loved up empathy - it's seriously missing from todays pills.

When you say body high, what did you mean? Can you describe it a bit more? I am about to order some piracetam today but I don't want to use this shit if it's going to fck the experience up in some way.

Also other poster said the opposite - more empathy less body high.

I am confused!
 
mark881 said:
I'm looking for the loved up empathy - it's seriously missing from todays pills.

When you say body high, what did you mean? Can you describe it a bit more? I am about to order some piracetam today but I don't want to use this shit if it's going to fck the experience up in some way.

Also other poster said the opposite - more empathy less body high.

I am confused!
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By body high, I meant rolls of physical pleasure comparable to orgasmic feelings. Which I love of course, but typically I always get that from E. I do not always get intense "loved-up" feelings which are the most important in increasing to me.

Yes, different people report different responses, hence the internet term YMMV. (your mileage may vary)

All I can say is you won't know if you don't try it yourself and unfortunately there are many different ways to try it (pre-loading, taking only the day of, large amounts, with choline, etc.), so even then you can't be sure which is best for you until you try them all AND keep other variables constant.

A lot of people trying things like piracetam might be trying it with different pills than they did before, or with a different length of break, etc. etc. so how are you going to know what is responsible for the improvement unless all things are equal?
 
I read an article where the user took the same pill as before, but with piracetam loading. He said it was like the first time.
 
mark881 said:
I read an article where the user took the same pill as before, but with piracetam loading. He said it was like the first time.
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Yes, I've read similar. I used the same pills when I experimented with it too. I'm curious if people continue to have all the subsequent rolls also feel like the first time?
 
That is a good point, we can't get something for nothing right. But Piracetam seems to be a wonder drug with no side effects.
 
intelligentmind said:
Someone on bl should do some tests on a few rats
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There has been a study done with rats:

"Could piracetam potentiate behavioural effects of psychostimulants?"
Karel Slais, Alena Machalova, Leos Landa, Dagmar Vrskova, Alexandra Sulcova

the problem is, rats/mice are not very good at relaying subjective information, such as "empathy" and "body-load"... :)
 
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I read the .gov info on it and it apparently boosts most drugs. So I've ordered some and will report back. I will also have a largeish break from pills, well if you call 5 weeks a long time...
 
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