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nootropics, piracetam in particular, has been widely known to "enhance" mdma. i have read that it helps with comedowns. sounds nice.
here is where i am confused. some people swear by it. they say they roll like the first time (i want thisss)
but ive also heard people say it makes the roll "cleaner", "smoother" more "Clear headed", "not as edgy". ive even read somewhere that some people feel less intensity from it and less empathy. on the other hand i have heard of intense come ups on piracetam.

i do not want to take something which makes me feel too clear, if you guys know what i mean. i LOVE the mdma magic. the intense euphoria and empathy. its clear, but i mean, it kind of isnt... its like an mdma hazey mindset. i dont know how to explain.

does the piracetam make the roll less characteristic of the typical roll? less empathy? less something? could there perhaps be a pro's and con's list to taking it?

any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
 
People give supplements way too much credit around here.

No supplement is going to make you roll like your first time, especially if you arnt taking proper breaks. 3 months without rolling will do wonders for tolerance, and not to mention, it will make the high 100 times better.



Supplements can HELP, dont get me wrong, but its going to do NOTHING compared to actually rolling with safe doses (under 200mgs) and proper 2-3 month breaks.
 
Piracetam deserves credit tbh, it does not do so much to reduce tollerance, more enhance the experience.

GHB is THE drug to do with MDMA. I have rolled a LOT. Taking huge doses every week when I began raving, and then every month or so after. Doses around the 600mg mark. Dosing GHB before I went raving and dropped resulted in an MDMA experience better than my 1st every drop, it is That good. I can't belive more people have not tried it.
 
yes me and my girlfriend pre-loaded with 800mg Piracetam 1 hour before taking mdma last night, i highly recommend it.
it gives the brain help with the overwhelming feeling mdma can give

i feel as if it helped the come down as well, made it less harsh
 
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westy said:
yes me and my girlfriend pre-loaded with 800mg 1 hour before taking mdma last night, i highly recommend it.
it gives the brain help with the overwhelming feeling mdma can give

i feel as if it helped the come down as well, made it less harsh
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Piracetam or GHB? I am aware that GHB + alcohol = death though.

I have piracetam ready to roll...let me know recommended pre loading...
 
Piracetam, i have no experience what so ever with ghb
i highly recommend pre-loading with Piracetam 800mg seems to work for me but i want to try out some higher and lower doses too
 
i had one of my best rolls while preloaded on piracetam, and one of the best day afters. also my uncle did a bad rc and was all messed up in the head, i gave him the rest of my bottle of piracetam and he pollished it off in a few days and said it fixed his head haha, id give it a shot, def wont hurt.
 
hollandhomeboy said:
nootropics, piracetam in particular, has been widely known to "enhance" mdma. i have read that it helps with comedowns. sounds nice.
here is where i am confused. some people swear by it. they say they roll like the first time (i want thisss)
but ive also heard people say it makes the roll "cleaner", "smoother" more "Clear headed", "not as edgy". ive even read somewhere that some people feel less intensity from it and less empathy. on the other hand i have heard of intense come ups on piracetam.

i do not want to take something which makes me feel too clear, if you guys know what i mean. i LOVE the mdma magic. the intense euphoria and empathy. its clear, but i mean, it kind of isnt... its like an mdma hazey mindset. i dont know how to explain.

does the piracetam make the roll less characteristic of the typical roll? less empathy? less something? could there perhaps be a pro's and con's list to taking it?

any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.
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It has always made my rolls less empathetic, which unfortunately is my favorite part of the roll. Different people seem to have different reactions though...
 
Piracetam did NOT work for me.
I don't remember exactly the doses I did but I took it daily for two weeks. Then I took a larger dose of piracetam about 4 hrs before MDMA. I only took 100 mg pure MDMA instead of the usual 150 mg but I hardly felt it.
I tried it again next time, same thing. Dosed daily for two weeks. Larger dose about 4 hrs before MDMA. Took 150 mg of pure MDMA. It didn't really work. In my opinion, the piracetam made it worse.
Every other time I used that same MDMA, it worked normally.
My boyfriend felt the same thing about it. We had heard the same thing, that piracetam would make it better, or intensify the MDMA, but that did not seem to be true at all.
We always space out or rolls 1-2 months and test our MDMA (always pure) and the non-piracetam rolls have always been much better.
 
llama112 said:
Piracetam did NOT work for me.
I don't remember exactly the doses I did but I took it daily for two weeks. Then I took a larger dose of piracetam about 4 hrs before MDMA. I only took 100 mg pure MDMA instead of the usual 150 mg but I hardly felt it.
I tried it again next time, same thing. Dosed daily for two weeks. Larger dose about 4 hrs before MDMA. Took 150 mg of pure MDMA. It didn't really work. In my opinion, the piracetam made it worse.
Every other time I used that same MDMA, it worked normally.
My boyfriend felt the same thing about it. We had heard the same thing, that piracetam would make it better, or intensify the MDMA, but that did not seem to be true at all.
We always space out or rolls 1-2 months and test our MDMA (always pure) and the non-piracetam rolls have always been much better.
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That's really interesting. I have some piracetam for my next roll...going to take it 1-2 days before and on the same roll day...hope I've not wasted my money.
 
piracetam is in my opinion one of best things ever..... and god said let there be light,and there was light,man created wheel.... piracetam in my book is in same league as light or wheel,no negatives,extreme positives....


taking piracetam makes your brain go like if you put premium oil and high octane gas to your car
 
DOB said:
piracetam is in my opinion one of best things ever..... and god said let there be light,and there was light,man created wheel.... piracetam in my book is in same league as light or wheel,no negatives,extreme positives....


taking piracetam makes your brain go like if you put premium oil and high octane gas to your car
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Fck me I should take this for work. Sounds amazing. I'm holding off doing it....now my question is this should I use 800mg for 2 days before I roll then 800mg on the day....or should I just do 800mg on rolling day?
 
i think the most notable effects may be the reduced comedown, it seems non-existent.
i think the effects will be more noticeable in people who have a tolerance, because if your rolling every 2 months your rolls are going to be extremely strong anyway.
 
mark881 said:
Fck me I should take this for work. Sounds amazing. I'm holding off doing it....now my question is this should I use 800mg for 2 days before I roll then 800mg on the day....or should I just do 800mg on rolling day?
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listen man.... theres wide knowledge that at start of your regular piracetam dosing,if you ofcourse plan to use it daily witch I highly recomend,its said you should start with big doses like 4800mg

but I dont do that,I just start with regular doses......... I personaly experimented and found that two times a day,at morning and after lunch 2400mg piracetam with 3600mg of lecithin is best


when I get to argue conflict I kept my cool and was totaly racional and calm while other person whas spitting bullshit furiosly like some rage animal.... my sharpnes and integrity of my train of tought was much improved as was self handling,I could literaly push the screaming mad men in that spicy argue to back of my head and be totaly in control and my thinking was so sharp

cool story I know,but thats how awesome piracetam is in my experinece =D
 
My g/f and I both always take piracetam before rolling. We preload for 2 days before and then take a healthy dose 2 hrs before dropping. The main thing we have noticed is the length of the roll is extended. We would normally roll for about 3 hrs before taking supplements, we now will roll for a solid 5hrs with a 2 hr comedown. A nice smooth comedown though. I would definitely check out the supplements mega thread though. There are many supps you can take together to give you a better roll as well as help give your brain and body a little protection.
 
Juicyjuice86 said:
My g/f and I both always take piracetam before rolling. We preload for 2 days before and then take a healthy dose 2 hrs before dropping. The main thing we have noticed is the length of the roll is extended. We would normally roll for about 3 hrs before taking supplements, we now will roll for a solid 5hrs with a 2 hr comedown. A nice smooth comedown though. I would definitely check out the supplements mega thread though. There are many supps you can take together to give you a better roll as well as help give your brain and body a little protection.
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Could you tell me your loading cycle please?

I have heard after use you can get irritable - but glutamic acid fixes that. I already have some built into my BCAAs.

I have choline too for the headache due to it using up choline supplies in the body.

I have always been pissed at the duration of the pills nowadays, prob, 90mins max. I guess this is the answer to my prayers, extended roll.
 
mark881 said:
Fck me I should take this for work. Sounds amazing. I'm holding off doing it....now my question is this should I use 800mg for 2 days before I roll then 800mg on the day....or should I just do 800mg on rolling day?
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piracetam is a cumulative substance, meaning it needs to build up in your system for it to produce effects. Some have a very low threshold, others need to take it for a few days to feel the effects. You can "jumpstart" your preloading by dropping 3000-5000mgs (proportionate to body weight) as a "break through" dose - that in itself should be fun, as you will be very focused, emotionally "solid", have an increased appreciation for music, and might even notice some color intensification. To get the most out of it, you will either want to supplement choline, or better yet, eat foods rich in choline (like chicken). If I were to recommend anything, it'd be a break through dose 2 days before, 1/3 of that dose the day before, and 800mg on rolling day.

I am curious, has anyone experimented with the other racetams and mdma? Oxyracetam and pramaracetam are much more potent variants of piracetam, and pramaracetam is non cumulative, can be dosed as needed for "instant on" type qualities.
 
So you are suggesting

Day 1 - 2400mg
Day 2 - 2400mg
Day 3 - 800mg
Roll day - 800mg
 
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