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Pipes or Piperazines??
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Yeah, throwing up seems normal. Ive been real nauseous coming up/
Sustanon
Bluelighter
I hate piperazines, they make u sooo sick for days. Vomite, hot cold flushes, migranes, no sleep or eat for days and flu like symptoms on the comedown. The high is very enjoyable but once half way through it u will feel like shit.
thanks guysthat sucks that there is no way to test them and see if they really are pipes. but is it normal to throw up anyway if your tabs arent pipes cause my first time i did and the last time i almost did when they hit me. Im a small girl though so that may be the reason.
I have friends who always seem to throw up during the come-up when taking tested high-quality MDMA crystals. It seems pretty normal to me, but has never happened to myself.
Has anyone who is Male thrown-up while coming up on MDMA? I've only had Female friends who have thrown-up off of it, so maybe the Female body reacts differently to it? (It could also obviously be that they're smaller, though).
Stay.Blazed.420
Bluelighter
my gf did 3 of these sketchy dark plue pills that were mushy (dipped in something i assume) and she was up all night in the bathroom. Got home at 4am and stayed in the bathroom wide awake (trippin still) until 11am because she felt sick and gagged whenever she would cough. She never puked, and she didn't fall asleep till 2am the next day (awake for 40 hours straight). She was VERY hungover and felt like shit all day.
Is this a pipe?
Is this a pipe?
adillonm15
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I've been piped once... took a year break from rolling after that.
I took 2 of the damn pills... and an hour I felt great... I thought I was about to peak. Then about 15 minutes later, my body got extremely hot (had to sit in front of a fan or I would freak out), my heart was going extremely fast to the point i was worried of heart attack, i hated everyone, and was extremely nauseous. Tried to drink some OJ and immediately threw it up. I felt sick with headaches and chest pain for about a week. Throw them away.
I took 2 of the damn pills... and an hour I felt great... I thought I was about to peak. Then about 15 minutes later, my body got extremely hot (had to sit in front of a fan or I would freak out), my heart was going extremely fast to the point i was worried of heart attack, i hated everyone, and was extremely nauseous. Tried to drink some OJ and immediately threw it up. I felt sick with headaches and chest pain for about a week. Throw them away.
Moral Decay
Bluelighter
no way of knowing what your GF took. Get a test kit and quit giving your GFs unknown pills. Likely you wont learn until you kill one.
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HB Pencil
Bluelighter
Went to a party when i had a fair tolerance but hadnt come across pips, bought 10 for the night with the intention of having 6-7.
Ended up doing 7 because of the long onset and being careless/impatient, the high felt like a bad comedown, headache, hopt and cold sweats and terrible nausea. Just lied in bed unable to sleep..and then the real comedown began which was 10x worse.
Avoid avoid avoid...mcpp is known to induce migraines in humans, why would you even put that in a pill.
Ended up doing 7 because of the long onset and being careless/impatient, the high felt like a bad comedown, headache, hopt and cold sweats and terrible nausea. Just lied in bed unable to sleep..and then the real comedown began which was 10x worse.
Avoid avoid avoid...mcpp is known to induce migraines in humans, why would you even put that in a pill.
khald
Bluelighter
throw that shit out. you won't regret it. at least not as much as if you take them instead.
edit: ps, i read that you're thinking about taking them.. think wisely before you do. it's always super tempting to take any E pill when you have your hands on it, from my experience.. haha. how many are you gonna take? if it's just 1, then you should be okay, but be prepared for the shitty comedown.
also, idk if this is allowed at all, but i'm gonna post it anyways, in hopes of turning someone away from ingesting a pipe
from my experience, pipes are hard and waxy a lot of the time, as well as flat rather than domed, and have little white specs inside. they also taste like burning asshole.
edit: ps, i read that you're thinking about taking them.. think wisely before you do. it's always super tempting to take any E pill when you have your hands on it, from my experience.. haha. how many are you gonna take? if it's just 1, then you should be okay, but be prepared for the shitty comedown.
also, idk if this is allowed at all, but i'm gonna post it anyways, in hopes of turning someone away from ingesting a pipe
from my experience, pipes are hard and waxy a lot of the time, as well as flat rather than domed, and have little white specs inside. they also taste like burning asshole.
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questforstarfish
Bluelighter
I've taken pipes a couple of times and what happened to me was:
*stayed high and unable to sleep for 12+ hours
*things looked a little weird, like when you're coming up on mushrooms
*nausea, sweating
*spent the entire time feeling just slightly annoyed. Not really good, but not necessarily bad. Just short of comfortable no matter what I did. For 12 hours. Slightly irritated by everything. Unable to describe it.
Some people out there say they get a great high off of pipes but I fucking hated them, and the hangover was waaay worse than on mdma. A miserable experience and waste of time/money/energy. Thumbs way down!
*stayed high and unable to sleep for 12+ hours
*things looked a little weird, like when you're coming up on mushrooms
*nausea, sweating
*spent the entire time feeling just slightly annoyed. Not really good, but not necessarily bad. Just short of comfortable no matter what I did. For 12 hours. Slightly irritated by everything. Unable to describe it.
Some people out there say they get a great high off of pipes but I fucking hated them, and the hangover was waaay worse than on mdma. A miserable experience and waste of time/money/energy. Thumbs way down!
chocolatehoney
Greenlighter
Yep just had that experience myself this past weekend. It has been about 10 years or more since I have even sought out mdma. All I can say is things have changed, and you really have to be careful. Not unless you like pipes, that was my first experience and I don't know if I even want to risk possibly getting another one. Horrible, horrible stuff :-(
stoneddave
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Piperazines are a hit or miss, some people have really bad reactions to them, others are perfectly fine taking them. I'm lucky to be one of those people that doesn't have a bad reaction to them. I don't like pipes TBH, I don't hate them but any fun they may produce is generally not worth the side effects they produce.
If you know you have a pipe pill before consuming it and know not to expect MDMA-like effects, then you have a way better chance of enjoying yourself...It's like a psychedelic in that your mindset is almost everything.
The first time I got piped, I was fairly new to testing pills and when I tested them, the reagent turned reasonably black, but it took like 30 seconds to get to that point, so I just figured they were weak rolls, so I ate like 3 to begin with; it basically just ended up feeling like a tease roll, I would start to get tingly and my eyes would slightly wiggle for just a second or two, then would go away, so I figured I needed more, and ate more, but never got a real legitimate "roll" feeling out of it, I gave up on eating more and ended up awake for the next 2 days off of those pills. And as much as it sucked being awake, it didn't bother me that much. Other people though, will get all kinds of crazy side-effects like intense nausea, body-temp issues, etc., I'm lucky enough to not get bad side effects, other than inability to sleep.
Though there was one time I had pills I knew were pipes but decided to take them anyways; I took one and went to bar by my college and I really enjoyed my time; I was social (not lovey dovey), energetic, danced a bit, I just really had a great time, it just sucked when it came time to call it a night and all my other friends went to bed, while I sat in the living room for the next 8 hours smoking obscene amounts of weed and cigs, watching extremely dull TV trying to make myself passout with no success.
So IMO pipes are a hit or miss...if you don't have a bad reaction to them, then I could see people liking them, but with how many people have adverse reactions, it's kinda a tough gamble to make. I guess my best advice would be that if you're going to try taking them, know not to expect a MDMA like experience and take it for what it is; as much as ppl try calling pipes "fake XTC" it really is not like XTC, it has about as much similarity to MDMA as a dose of shrooms does. But don't rule them out completely cause so many people dislike them, take 'em for what they are and if you like it, you like it, if you don't , you don't.
If you know you have a pipe pill before consuming it and know not to expect MDMA-like effects, then you have a way better chance of enjoying yourself...It's like a psychedelic in that your mindset is almost everything.
The first time I got piped, I was fairly new to testing pills and when I tested them, the reagent turned reasonably black, but it took like 30 seconds to get to that point, so I just figured they were weak rolls, so I ate like 3 to begin with; it basically just ended up feeling like a tease roll, I would start to get tingly and my eyes would slightly wiggle for just a second or two, then would go away, so I figured I needed more, and ate more, but never got a real legitimate "roll" feeling out of it, I gave up on eating more and ended up awake for the next 2 days off of those pills. And as much as it sucked being awake, it didn't bother me that much. Other people though, will get all kinds of crazy side-effects like intense nausea, body-temp issues, etc., I'm lucky enough to not get bad side effects, other than inability to sleep.
Though there was one time I had pills I knew were pipes but decided to take them anyways; I took one and went to bar by my college and I really enjoyed my time; I was social (not lovey dovey), energetic, danced a bit, I just really had a great time, it just sucked when it came time to call it a night and all my other friends went to bed, while I sat in the living room for the next 8 hours smoking obscene amounts of weed and cigs, watching extremely dull TV trying to make myself passout with no success.
So IMO pipes are a hit or miss...if you don't have a bad reaction to them, then I could see people liking them, but with how many people have adverse reactions, it's kinda a tough gamble to make. I guess my best advice would be that if you're going to try taking them, know not to expect a MDMA like experience and take it for what it is; as much as ppl try calling pipes "fake XTC" it really is not like XTC, it has about as much similarity to MDMA as a dose of shrooms does. But don't rule them out completely cause so many people dislike them, take 'em for what they are and if you like it, you like it, if you don't , you don't.
IF you know your taking a piperazine pill instead of an MDMA pill then its half the battle - The come up is the same, the high is more of a speedy, jittery experience to MDMA and there is very little to no empathy. The high just feels 'empty' and almost forced, for most people you don’t want to dance, you don’t want to sit down and relax, actually you don’t want to do anything, so as you can imagine it gets pretty uncomfortable as nothing you do feels good. Once this shitty tweaky high has gone your left wide awake, some people say for hours, some say days..
They can simply make you feel uncomfortable in your own skin!
Mind you, not all piperazine pills make you feel bad – (Viagra is a piperazine afterall) its just down to the chemist/presser.
They can simply make you feel uncomfortable in your own skin!
Mind you, not all piperazine pills make you feel bad – (Viagra is a piperazine afterall) its just down to the chemist/presser.
socalthizzn
Bluelighter
They are not exxagerated, everyone reacts different to them. And some are worse than others. Bzp 1 tmfpp 3 is not as bad as bzp 1 tmfpp 10