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Piperazine!!

The one time i took a bzp tfmpp combo, i felt pretty good, pretty energized. The bad part was that i would feel great and then feel really uncomfortable and anxious, then right back to great again. this happened for like 4 or 5 hours. After that i just couldn't sleep for about another 10.
 
i really doubt bzp is similar to meth.... they're two completely different drugs, by structure, how they affect the brain etc. ive never taken meth but i really dont see how therye in any way similar.

Look it up homie, meth addicts couldnt tell the difference between meth and BZP when they were given it in IV form

1-Benzylpiperazine

1-Benzylpiperazine is a CNS stimulant. In doses around 20-100 mg it
produces euphoria, wakefullness, improved vigilance. The ratio of
centeral/peripheral effects is roughly that of d-amphetamine. The
duration of action is 6-8 hours.

Benzylpiperazine, like the amphetamines triggering the release of dopamine
and norepinephine as opposed to blocking their re-uptake as do cocaine,
amfonelic acid, and methylphenidate.

Studies using known amphetamine/methamphetamine addicts showed that 100 mg
was not distinguishable from 7.5 mg of d-amphetamine.
They also noted that lower doses were not detected by the subjects.


Source: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/piperazines/piperazines_info1.shtml
 
if u really wanna end it quickly. Xanax (or any other benzo). all will be good in a matter of minutes.
 
I would have thought ending a bad stim session would have been the job of some benzos not more stims? (coke)
 
hmm... thats iv though. like people wouldnt shoot bzp. and few shoot meth. but idk maybe if you swallowed enough pipz you'd get a meth buzz.
 
Oh and tell your dealer the shit he is selling, the sooner we can get these off the street the better
lol@drug dealer ethics.
most of em if you call them on their pills being shit, or at least when i had an encounter with being sold piperazine pills, they'll just argue with you about it, and when i was offered piperazines another time, different press, after iirc i think i said something like they're not MDMA or not just straight MDMA and mofos just said MDMA+speed..
besides its not like people seem to give a fuck anyway, people munch down pipes like candy it seems with no complaints because thats just what "X" is to them..it seems anwyay..
pipes IMO, and i only ever took them once, because i inadvertantly bought 2 pipe bombs once, literally just make you feel sick. the pills i speak of popped up on edata 5 TFMPP 1 BZP or the other way around, and when i ingested one last year i literally just felt nauseous and very hot, no high no nothing, just feeling as if i'm very sick.
fuck pipes, the fuckers who press em are absolute shitheads
its rather unethical to press speedbombs IMO but at least speed/meth are drugs that have appeal rather than drugs that nobody fucking likes and nobody would buy/use if they weren't misrepresented as MDMA...
BZP iirc releases about 20x less dopamine than amphetamine or methamphetamine and more norepinephrine iirc.
theres no point to a stimulant drug if it doesn't release a fuckton of dopamine cause being tweaked only feels good cause of the dopamine flood...
 
All I have to say is that is the worse i have ever felt and this has happened to me atleast 5 times from diff sources. they should call it misery instead of extacy.
 
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