Pills of today vs. pills of 2+years ago.

[Brian Oblivion]

For what it is worth, EcstasyData.org performs GC/MS tests on tablets sent in to them. They only perform the test on pills submitted to them from within the United States.

Granted, this is a small cross section of all pills as these are only test taken on pills which have been sent in (so this is not necessarily a complete picture of what is going on). But with that in mind, look at all of the crap that is being passed off as MDMA in the states.

 

[SC RoLLa]

AMEN!Im glad im not the only one who thinks this! Pills are getting weaker and crappier here in the USA,every year.I dont think it has anything to do with tolerance,because I take breaks.Back in the old day (1999)I took one pill all night whereas now I have to take 2-3 rolls just to get off,which is friggin pathetic!Whats up with all the cutting of pills,and all this MDxx bullshit?Im sick and tired of all these non-lovey pills.It seems as if speed has taken over North America and nowadays to save a lil bit chemists are making so called speedy pills instead of the classic "Pure Love"pills of yesterday.You will never find such good quality as the original Buddha,Pisces,or Mitsubishi...guess its just all down here from now...Wonder why most of the kick ass rolls from Europe are making it to the US anymore.Did ya know that last year alone,50 labs were shutdown in Holland and Belgium,which really hurt bad!My guess is that the real MDMA labs capable of making well over a million pills were busted!It has gotten way to mainstream and several major distribution networks all over the country have been totally severed thanks to the DEA,etc.Keep in mind that the majority of the mindcrushing pills,especially here in the Southeast were getting shipped from places like Amsterdam to S.Florida,particullary Miami(where someone literally got rid of 100,000 beans in 48hrs!!!)where the cops have really cracked down and made some big time busts!Nowadays it seems if more are headed to NYC,LA,and the west coast where the demand is higher.Oh well guess my days of pillin are over,at least for now till I can find something better.Damn you chemists! Stop being so fuckin greedy and send some good pills our way ! ~~Michael~~

 

[Brian Oblivion]

Hi SC RoLLa,

I fully agree. I took a break for 3 1/2 years and only started doing it again a few months ago. So I hope that is a long enough time.

The quality today is really bad.

I really miss the days when molly was available. They can take their pill presses and shove them. Give me that pure powder and I'll measure out my own dose (without any crap added to it). - *sigh*

 

[Orpheus420]

"You will never find such good quality as the original Buddha,Pisces,or Mitsubishi"

In all fairness, I guarantee you never took the original Buddha's, Pisces, or Mitsu's which surfaced anywhere from the late 80's to early 90's, and you said you didn't start til 99'..So there was probably better batches before you dropped, and probably worse batches of all the above brands as well..

"It seems as if speed has taken over North America "

I agree that there has been tons of speedy beans around, especially here as of late..But cut beans are nothing new..Hell, back at one of my first massives in early 00, all anyone could find were DXM loaded clovers..And DXM chocked beans have gone and arisen again from time to time..As long as people keep buying untested pills, there's always going to be a number of bunk or substitued pills on the market..And as far as I've seen, they'll always be a number of good ones running around as well..

As obvious from the bunch of differing opinions from posts, it's all a matter of where you live, who you know, and if you can test to really prove your point(and as I've stated previously, I do not believe a random testing study can prove that the worldwide content of MDMA in pills has decreased..you simply cannot use such a study as a source on such a unregulated and uncontrolled product IMO..I know that mathematics logic might state otherwise, but math does not fully deal with all of the "unknowns" about it out there)..

 

[Brian Oblivion]

I do not believe a random testing study can prove that the worldwide content of MDMA in pills has decreased..you simply cannot use such a study as a source on such a unregulated and uncontrolled product IMO..I know that mathematics logic might state otherwise, but math does not fully deal with all of the "unknowns" about it out there)..

I agree, that you can not get a fully qualified study based on tablets obtained from an unscientific random sampling sent in to a lab.

On the other hand, that does not totally disqualify the lab study either. Many people are complaining about quality. My first MDMA experience was in 1991, and I've seen the quality go down a great deal in the past several years.

I am also certain that it is not a tolerance issue on my part, because in the midst of those bad tablets I have also had very good ones. (Tolerance is not fickle.)

 

[Orpheus420]

"I am also certain that it is not a tolerance issue on my part, because in the midst of those bad tablets I have also had very good ones. (Tolerance is not fickle.)"

Oh I know tolerance wasn't a issue with you. I saw you listing your break ...I do still think it is an issue with some, but I do achknowledge it's not the only reason behind my arguement

 

[Brian Oblivion]

Oh I know tolerance wasn't a issue with you. I saw you listing your break ...I do still think it is an issue with some, but I do achknowledge it's not the only reason behind my arguement

I'll admit, though, at first I wondered if I was having a tolerance problem. Fortunately, I encountered something that proved otherwise (wish that one tablet was the standard ).

 

[drumnbass420]

IMO pills started getting crap during mid-2001


opps old thread sorry ;-)

 

[xthizzc]

Way to bring up a 4 year old topic.

But pills now adays, very very very decreasement in quality.
Why are methbombs so popular?

 

[DarthMom]

god everyone is so full of crap. :D i have been eating so called ecstacy for 15 years and overall it is all great, unless you eat too much.

get a pill kit if you really care about what you get, don't go by these threads.

but god, what i wouldn't give to go back to those good ol chocolate chip "heroin" pills :D