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Phens drugs for people who can't handle stimulants...

As was already suggested: 4-substituted tryptamines have their virtues and they don't tend to be stimulating like the 5-substituted ones. Which exact tryptamine to try is for you to research yourself, we don't really do "what should I take?" threads so no recommendations either, we'll let the few mentions slide.

RR has a good point: it is worth discussing whether there are actual medically diagnosed contraindications i.e. known adrenaline-related reactions, or if just a tendency to be sensitive to stimulant effects that you observed yourself. If there is really an underlying medical condition, asking us about drug advice is asking too much. If it is just a sensitivity, it is possible the person in question just needs a lower dose of stimulants and needs to be careful with other sympathomimetic drugs... whether tryptamines are okay really depends on this, because it determines the order of magnitude of tolerance to effects of a (remotely) stimulating nature.
 
Thomas Davie said:
Physically stimulating? As in heart rate increase and bp increase?

I've found it damn near impossible to get to sleep 2 hours after dosing (I was stupid and took it when I should not have). So, mentally stimulating at least.

Tom
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I'm not sure about that, perhaps slightly but I was mostly talking about feeling the need to move around, and having a very hard time getting comfortable, constantly moving my legs etc
This usually doesn't happen with mushrooms but happens quite a bit with 4-aco-dmt

EDIT: might I add I'm particularly sensitive in this way to most psychedelics
 
Just a quick update to tell you that the trip on 2C-C was fine (We did both 50mg) everything went fine, we also did some 4-FA at night :)

Thanks again!
 
Good news, well done, thanks for letting us know...

4-fa is nice, I miss it. It got binned in your other thread Lol
 
Haha awesome :D I will take 2C-C 30mg again with 6 friends of mine, we also have Methylone for the end of the night! Really excited for tomorrow :))

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She seems to be practicing it fairly good, more so than others.
Her friend having the seizure seemed like an adverse reaction which nobody could have predicted, maybe a microdose for an allergy test would have shown warning signs but everybody is guilty of not practicing perfect HR all the time
 
I'm pretty sure most phenetylamine type drugs are all somewhat rather stimulating, though some may be less so than others. But they are never going to reach the speediness of actual amphetamine in my experience. But then again I only have limited experience with this type of drugs.

Kishka said:
Haha awesome :D I will take 2C-C 30mg again with 6 friends of mine, we also have Methylone for the end of the night! Really excited for tomorrow :))
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Hoppas ni får det trevligt :)
 
Psychedelic "speediness" means different things to different people, and amphetamine speediness is different from them. However, all known recreational phenethylamines are non-trivially adrenergic in effects.

ebola
 
Toz said:
I'm pretty sure most phenetylamine type drugs are all somewhat rather stimulating, though some may be less so than others. But they are never going to reach the speediness of actual amphetamine in my experience. But then again I only have limited experience with this type of drugs.



Hoppas ni får det trevligt :)
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Det var mycket roligt tack :P
 
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