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Phenibut

I've heard a lot about kratom on here tried it during headshop days. Don't get why people bother with it that and codeine. :-S
 
Thanks I was kinda worried about that part and brahmi is a nootropic like phenibut acting in a similar way but not the same mechanism
 
I wouldn't describe phenibut as a "nootropic". It's a GABA-basher similar to GHB or GBL (or indeed ethanol or benzos for that matter). It's one of the rougher ones in all honesty. If you think of "nootropics" as being in any way enhancers of brain function you really need to look elsewhere cos phenibut mostly just makes you massively horny and borderline overstimulated. Kinda like GBL's ropey aunt. WIth GBL itself being GHB's sluttier sister.

I'd strongly advise avoiding opies of any stripe with any GABA-bashing drugs but GHB/GBL and phenibut seem to be far more acutely iffy than benzos and booze are. I believe they also work on the opposite GABA receptor compared to booze 'n' blooze too which may or may not be relevant as to the reason why. Either way, they definitely are iffy and aside from the risk-factor the subjective effects are also downright unpleasant according to the vast majority of users (including myself). This applies even when there is much <3 for each and every substance - and substance analogy - individually.
 
ehh id advise any formr heroin addict to stay away from kratom..sure, it may help the depression now but why do you think that is?trust me, ive thought of using Kratom but i was a former opiate addict and its not worth the risk imo..

phenibut is not a nootropic at all imo..if anything, it fogs the mind up just like pretty much every other gaba drug..
 
I haven't got time to read back through this thread but did you know that phenibut is no longer available in the UK? I've been trying to order some but it's out of stock everywhere. I asked an online supplier and they said it's because of new legislation and they're no longer allowed to sell it.

Edit : I've found a couple of vendors that have it in stock but I think they're based outside the UK. Can anyone shed any light on this?
 
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So it is real bannend in the uk?
That explains why it out of stock or removed in all stores.
It was something i know was coming didnt understand how it was legal in the first place.

So the beginning of the end of phenibut Has started.
Looks like it's time to stock up.

Anyone an idea of the shelflife of this stuff?
It Looks like a stable compount.
 
I managed to get a pot of Primaforce before the vendor removed it from sale, the use by is 2 years.

I'm gutted by this ban :(
 
I had to order from a US site as phenibut was taken down off the site I usually buy off...which is UK based. Phenibut has never been illegal in ireland, so hopefully we dont follow suit with the UK
 
I originally asked this in another thread but got no response to my actual question. I took phenibut for a couple days last week and had 5 days of anxiety and minor insomnia. Obviously this is rebound on the more serious side or withdrawal on the very light side. It's been 7 days since I had my last dose and am totally fine. Would taking a small dose tomorrow (the last of what I have) retrigger those negative effects or would I be fine?
 
I come here to ask about if any one knows anything about the possible damage phenibut can do to kidneys / liver.. but now I'm paranoid I'm going to be done for importing controlled substances.

I'm currently taking between 16 and 20g's a day.. and have been for at least a year.. So when i buy i buy a kilo. I'm getting it from America at the moment.. once every three ish months.. Obviously a kilo of phenibut isn't going to come in a discreet fckin envelope.. mutha fuck..

But any way .. any one have information on how fucked my internal organs are likely to be? (Ignoring the fact i also drink 8 - 15 units a day)

PS.. if any one feels like they are or are becoming addicted.. stop.. just stop.. i'm living proof.. the worst case of phenibut addiction I know of (and, as far as i can tell - the internet knows of.. by a magnitude of about 1000)

muskolo said:
I originally asked this in another thread but got no response to my actual question. I took phenibut for a couple days last week and had 5 days of anxiety and minor insomnia. Obviously this is rebound on the more serious side or withdrawal on the very light side. It's been 7 days since I had my last dose and am totally fine. Would taking a small dose tomorrow (the last of what I have) retrigger those negative effects or would I be fine?
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You didn't tell us the original dose you took.

But it's more than likely the withdrawal affects would worsen if you took the same dose.. Was the experience worth it? If the answer is no.. flush it. If it's yes.. be seriously fucking careful.. (Or.. a better idea would be - Flush it)
 
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muskolo said:
I originally asked this in another thread but got no response to my actual question. I took phenibut for a couple days last week and had 5 days of anxiety and minor insomnia. Obviously this is rebound on the more serious side or withdrawal on the very light side. It's been 7 days since I had my last dose and am totally fine. Would taking a small dose tomorrow (the last of what I have) retrigger those negative effects or would I be fine?
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You'll be absolutely fine. GABA-b receptors (which phenibut acts on) very quickly upregulate, compared to GABA-a, meaning you're back to normal, after a week-ish. However, if you constantly abuse them, they won't be quite as forgiving. After withdrawal has ended, one moderate dose of phenibut won't cause withdrawals, from personal experience. Just don't take the piss, because it bites hard.

rickolasnice said:
I come here to ask about if any one knows anything about the possible damage phenibut can do to kidneys / liver.. but now I'm paranoid I'm going to be done for importing controlled substances.

I'm currently taking between 16 and 20g's a day.. and have been for at least a year.. So when i buy i buy a kilo. I'm getting it from America at the moment.. once every three ish months.. Obviously a kilo of phenibut isn't going to come in a discreet fckin envelope.. mutha fuck..

But any way .. any one have information on how fucked my internal organs are likely to be? (Ignoring the fact i also drink 8 - 15 units a day)

PS.. if any one feels like they are or are becoming addicted.. stop.. just stop.. i'm living proof.. the worst case of phenibut addiction I know of (and, as far as i can tell - the internet knows of.. by a magnitude of about 1000)



You didn't tell us the original dose you took.

But it's more than likely the withdrawal affects would worsen if you took the same dose.. Was the experience worth it? If the answer is no.. flush it. If it's yes.. be seriously fucking careful.. (Or.. a better idea would be - Flush it)
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Shit, that's a lot, and for a long time. I've been through many phases of hammering it, and it can be a nightmare. Organ-wise, I don't believe there's any real evidence to suggest that it causes much organ damage. The booze will be doing more damage. I'd definitely try and taper off, and eventually switch to baclofen, possibly with pregabalin, and then taper off those. Your withdrawals must be hell. I'd be more worried about your psychological wellbeing, than anything else. GABA-acting drugs like GHB/GBL, baclofen, benzodiazepines, phenibut, etc. don't seem to cause much (if any) organ damage, except booze. Withdrawal isn't exactly good for your brain, however, and seizures are common from benzodiazepines, and are possible with the others. Avoiding going cold-turkey and tapering will minimise the risks. Good luck, mate.
 
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Phenibut has been a hit and miss for me. Sometimes 800mg makes me very relaxed and other times it does nothing. Always several days in between.
 
I'm surprised you feel anything from 800mg. It takes 2-3 grammes to get a decent buzz, in my case.
 
Hi I took an extrmely large dose of Phenibut last night and the results frightened me. I would like some advice from a forum admin before I elaborate on the experience.
 
Why do you need advice from an admin? Feel free to PM me, if you need any advice, especially regarding phenibut. :)
 
Two grammes is the bare minimum, in my case. 3-4 grammes is about right. Obviously, everyone is different. 2 grammes might make your head spin, if you're lucky!
 
G,day this my first post on an experience. Before I begin, this post is a perfect description of what NOT TO DO.

My first time on phenibut was about a year ago and I was taking about a gram at a time over a night up to about 10 grams and I thought it wasn't doing anything but I had also drunk a 700ml bottle of whiskey, 10 mg alprzolam and about 250mg of diphenhydramine so my judgement of what was doing what was severely impaired. When I finally went to sleep I slept for 2 days straight and only woke up cause a mate was slapping my face to see if I was alive, went to hospital as my mate was fuckin worried and told the doc everything I had taken but didn't tell him about the phenibut as I didn't think it had anything to do with it and I did not want to alert the officials out there of this legal substance. After a day I was fine.

OK that out the way 3 days ago I received another 25g package of phenibut hoping that I could get an effect from it on its own. I started dosing at 2g at a time and I could swear I was feeling something after the first dose so gulp another 2 g. By now I was starting to feel pretty good so I decided to crack some home brew beers I had stashed which was a bit silly as I am a recovering alcoholic dry for 9 days at that time and just out of hospital for DT's. Anyway I digress, back to the awesome feeling I was having and I was feeling pretty fuckin awesome, I think by now I was up to about 10g phenibut and a few longnecks of beer. I was getting prettty fucked so now im just taking whole teaspoons at a time (approx 3g) and I was stumbling round like I had drunk a litre of wild turkey in an hour, but as time went on I got up to 5 longnecks and a bit over 20g of phenibut.

It was great for a while but then nausea began to take hold but every time I went to spew i couldn't so I just ended up keeping a barf bucket with me lol. According to my housemate I was still wandering around like a space cadet at 3 in the morning of which I remember none of and falling over so loudly I was waking everyone up. The next morn I was so fukin drowsy and clouded that I had blurry vision, loss of balance and I noticed a bit later that I must of fallen over every way possible cause I had so many bruises. Now that I think back to first experience I thing the phenibut acted as a powerful potentiator of the booze, alprazolam and diphenhydramine. This time it only took 5 longnecks + shitloads of phenibut to completly fuck me up.

Phenibut is slow at kicking in so the potential to take to much is high IMO, my advice is to stick to the therapeutic doses and if you do want to get high of the stuff do so carefully monitoring how much you have taken and be aware it will triple the potency of many drugs.

Thanks for reading, Red
 
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