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Phenibut

if it looks like its being judged i'll plead that then.

No I'll say it was the phen-i-big-but-n-everything else.

think of the bennys thoughhhhhhhhhhh aye???aye??




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I've tried three different "batches" of this Substance, with one of 'em being being already in Caps and two as raw "powder" but i haven't noticed the slightest difference, which means that i needed the same dose everytime, with the highest around up to 5-6Gs, which seems to be a very high dose if i read what others have to take to get where one's want to.

I honestly have the slightest idea why the heck i need that much, but since i know that it's effects are more gentle/subtle i know what to expect at which dose. So nowadays i just dose around 2,5grams and also use it very rarely since it's tolerance builds up friggin' fast making it more or less ineffective with each dose taken continually!
 
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Does anyone know if using this responsibly (maximum of once a week, no more than 1g) I would be in danger of getting rebound anxiety etc? If i use benzos even once now il have a shitty week or so to follow. Does the same apply to this?
 
hmmm tried about 600mg on friday and seemed to be less anxious but really tired more than anything, not that impressive. Also slept into 2pm the following day which is rare for me. il give it a week or maybe more then try 1g. Although so far, not so good.
 
I can't feel anything under 2 grammes.

Headfuck: At that level of use, there is zero chance of dependance. A gramme is a low dose, depending on the person.
 
cool, ill try 1g next week. Its mainly for a stressful job at the weekends so I was looking for something anxiolytic that doesnt turn me into a retard like benzos do.
 
Used to be my wonder drug, Two years, once a week as a treat. Doesn't work any more...could be the lyrica, but I miss waking up on those bright, breezy mornings, big smile on my face, knowing that absolutely nothing was going to spoil my day, and it never did. :)
 
velmwend said:
Used to be my wonder drug, Two years, once a week as a treat. Doesn't work any more...could be the lyrica, but I miss waking up on those bright, breezy mornings, big smile on my face, knowing that absolutely nothing was going to spoil my day, and it never did. :)
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What dose did you like to take? I'm thinking about taking some with a mild recreational dose of amphetamine in a few days and am undecided on a dose, may go 1.5gs to be safe
 
I found 1.5g to be on the high side personally - so stimulated that it bordered on uncomfortable as it was. The thought of adding in aphetamine really doesn't bear thinking about for me and I am a lifelong speedfreak of truly excessive degree.

I'd go with the phenibut alone and not even consider adding in a stim until very familar with the effect it has on you and then move forward cautiously. Bear in mind phenibut, GHB, GBL and the like can massively enhance the effects of other drugs - especially stims, opies, sedatives and dissociatives (aka all of 'em) - and this can get out of hand very swiftly and very easily.
 
I was mainly looking for the phenibut to remove the negatives from speed, I took phenibut once and combined with alcohol and it was enjoyable. I took it at 1.7gs or so, it was mild on its own buy definitely enhanced the alcohol
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "the negatives from speed" - speed has negatives?!? :?

What it does do is potentiate speed. I can't really imagine what you would find to be negative about speed but chances are whatever it is will be greatly amplified if combined with phenibut. Phenibut potentiates the living shit out of just about anything and everything - to what can easily become quite frightening degrees (especially opies which is flat out dangerous I'd say). Alcohol is also pretty damn risky as a combo with these kinda drugs. If you've only taken phenibut once and combined it with alcohol and found it "mild" I'd perhaps consider finding a new source for your phenibut cos although this stuff takes YMMV to another level anyway there should be no doubt when taken in combo with anything. Phenibut + booze should leave you barely capable of standing - and if pushed much further barely capable of breathing.

I'd focus less on what other people's doses happen to be as the range is so ridiculously wide that it is more or less meaningless. Instead I would suggest getting to know your own level by experimenting with doses of phenibut alone initially. Phenibut is not "mild" when the dose is right. Phenibut is completely overwhelming when you push it just slightly over wherever your personal "happy place" may lie. It is intensely stimulating and deeply sedating - more or less concurrently but in practice it goes back and forth and does so for several hours which can be a bit much for some people. Also causes insane levels of randiness - if you're not flogging it to within an inch of its existence (whether alone or with a friend) you probably haven't found your sweet spot yet ;)

Quality, purity and personal body chemistry vary so extremely with phenibut that comparative doses are not only of little relevance but potentially actually dangerous to focus on in my opinion. What is "mild" for one person using one batch from one vendor may do nothing whatsoever for the next person using their particular batch from their particular vendor or may hospitalise the next person using their particular batch from their particular vendor. There is zero quality control and the same weight from the same vendor from two different batches can be unrecognisably different in my experience. There is simply no way to compare doses in any meaningful way with this stuff :\
 
headfuck123 said:
cool, ill try 1g next week. Its mainly for a stressful job at the weekends so I was looking for something anxiolytic that doesnt turn me into a retard like benzos do.
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ive found that phenibut works well for anxiety but comes with the dreaded retarded effect that other gabaergics seem to come with..i have yet to try any gabergic that doesnt have the mind-fogging effect..

i take 4-5 grams of phenibut for a good effect..ive taken it for years and its still a tricky substance to get right..if i take a large amount and sit around, i find myself having to fight to keep from nodding but at the same time, i cannot sleep on these larger doses..phenibut is strange as its not a good sleep aid for me at all..
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by "the negatives from speed" - speed has negatives?!? :?

What it does do is potentiate speed. I can't really imagine what you would find to be negative about speed but chances are whatever it is will be greatly amplified if combined with phenibut. Phenibut potentiates the living shit out of just about anything and everything - to what can easily become quite frightening degrees (especially opies which is flat out dangerous I'd say). Alcohol is also pretty damn risky as a combo with these kinda drugs. If you've only taken phenibut once and combined it with alcohol and found it "mild" I'd perhaps consider finding a new source for your phenibut cos although this stuff takes YMMV to another level anyway there should be no doubt when taken in combo with anything. Phenibut + booze should leave you barely capable of standing - and if pushed much further barely capable of breathing.

I'd focus less on what other people's doses happen to be as the range is so ridiculously wide that it is more or less meaningless. Instead I would suggest getting to know your own level by experimenting with doses of phenibut alone initially. Phenibut is not "mild" when the dose is right. Phenibut is completely overwhelming when you push it just slightly over wherever your personal "happy place" may lie. It is intensely stimulating and deeply sedating - more or less concurrently but in practice it goes back and forth and does so for several hours which can be a bit much for some people. Also causes insane levels of randiness - if you're not flogging it to within an inch of its existence (whether alone or with a friend) you probably haven't found your sweet spot yet ;)

Quality, purity and personal body chemistry vary so extremely with phenibut that comparative doses are not only of little relevance but potentially actually dangerous to focus on in my opinion. What is "mild" for one person using one batch from one vendor may do nothing whatsoever for the next person using their particular batch from their particular vendor or may hospitalise the next person using their particular batch from their particular vendor. There is zero quality control and the same weight from the same vendor from two different batches can be unrecognisably different in my experience. There is simply no way to compare doses in any meaningful way with this stuff :\
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speed has plenty of negatives..im sure the poster was talking about tremors, agitation, anxiety that come with using speed and other stims..phenibut will help with this but not much..stims and phenibut do go very well together though i have to say..the sex drive boost and pro-social effect u get from this combo is quite pronounced :)
 
I've had great experiences with phenibut but I was curious Ive been making a sencha tea with Kratom phenibut and brahmi. Was just curious if I'm pushing things a little far in you guys' non professional opinion or professional opinion if you have such qualifications. I'm not asking if you think I should take it as I don't want to be breaking any rules just is this a bad chemical composition or have bad contradictions or adverse health effects. I should probably note the dosage is relatively high for the phenibut at 9.5g and moderate dosage of Kratom at 6g and brahmi at 5g. I know this would never be considered a healthy or recommended concoction or brew but I'm curious if im being outright careless. I'm a recovering heroin addict with major depression and have gone through 8 1/2 months of electric shock therapy but still struggle with the depression and this brew seems to be the one thing keeping me afloat.Anyway thanks
 
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Phenibut and opiates/opioids don't play well together so I would be very suspicious of combining it with kratom myself. If you do combine them you'll need to be extremely cautious with dosing as phenibut potenticates opies exponentially in my experience. Kratom is an atypical opioid though so I honestly have no idea but would be extremely cautious all the same. I don't know what brahmi is so couldn't comment on that.
 
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