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So long as I don't dose every day and keep my doses no higher than 2.5 grams in a day, I haven't gotten any form of withdrawals. I've gone 4-5 days at a time without dosing and experienced none of the nasty reputed physical effects that come with GABAergic withdrawal. During my work week, I usually take it on days 1, 3, and 5, and then skip the weekend (days 6-7) and do it again next week. Never had any problems with this regimen.
 
This drug looks full of promise.

My acquaintance offered me to partake in about 2 to 2.5 grams, on 2 separate occasions. We were dabbling in meth, but arent heavy users.

We just couldn't shut up, that was the major downside.

But sleep was much easier to attain. Once in a comfortable spot, even a few hours of shut eye was a surprising job well done.

It felt like a low dose, 'diet' xanax. My friend agreed.
 
Mad Cow said:
Hi everyone, I see that's a pretty old thread, but still... Phenibut is one of Russian drugs, which is routinely prescribed to nearly everyone. Just like piracetam. Russians believe in nootropics, that's the key. I grew up there I was prescribed piracetam every fall and winter, as "brain vitamins". I don't remember if it was effective, but it did not hurt me. I guess Phenibut is a similar stuff.
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Piracetam is exponentially more benign, innocous than phenibut, Does phenibut lower BP for you guys? Was taking a little clonidine for a few weeks and ran out couple days ago? Thanks, I have a lil phenibut.
 
mike.vick said:
Piracetam is exponentially more benign, innocous than phenibut, Does phenibut lower BP for you guys? Was taking a little clonidine for a few weeks and ran out couple days ago? Thanks, I have a lil phenibut.
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I don't have a personal experience with either Phenibut or blood pressure meds. From what I know, phenibut should not drop your BP if you take it as directed. In Russia doctors usually prescribe 250 mg divided into two or three doses if needed. There it's not a controlled substance, available OTC. Some people report it's helpful for insomnia, anxiety, apathy, etc. Other say they experience negative side effects up to withdrawal symptoms if the med discontinued abruptly. I personally have little to no trust in Russian drugs that are not recognized internationally. For example, their Phenotropil is by far less safe and less effective than our eugeroics (I have a shift work sleep disorder and am interested in this class of meds).
 
Phenibut is such a weird drug sometimes.

Today was the second time I've taken it and then fallen asleep afterwards, and both times this has happened I have dreamt about strangers being in my room and wondering why they are there lol.

I'm no expert on dream analysis or psychotherapy, but it's funny, and I certainly interpret both times the "people" being the Phenibut and wondering why it was in my head (or room) after falling back asleep haha.
 
Got folks on here talking about 1.5g PER DAY! Are you fkn nuts!!
1.5g per week, yep, but Goddarn slowwwww down before it's too late
 
waffle-head said:
Got folks on here talking about 1.5g PER DAY! Are you fkn nuts!!
1.5g per week, yep, but Goddarn slowwwww down before it's too late
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Taking 1.5 grams EVERY day is a bad idea.

Taking it in a single day is no big deal AT ALL.

The tub I have from a known vendor says not to exceed 4,000mgs in a week, but I will take 8,000mgs in a week MAX.

I quite often will take 4,000mgs over the course of a day, spread out over about 14 hours.

Today I took 1,800mgs and I’m not even feeling it.

It’s NOT dangerous to take 1,500mgs, or even 4,000mgs for most people in a single day.

What’s TRULY crazy is the people on here either taking upwards of 8,000mgs in a SINGLE DAY OR taking like thousands of milligrams EVERY day cause you will be addicted in no time flat and the withdrawal can be BAD.

There is SO much inconsistency on Phenibut.

I will see people saying the shit you are saying, that 1,500mgs is a lot to take in a day…and I will barely feel that amount lol.

Then you have people thinking they can take 6,000 mgs every day for weeks and finding out the hard way what will happen…people can get psychosis from that…
 
Ziiirp said:
No it is not. You can fuck up quite easily with that one.

Careful Russians vouch for Rhodiola (the use of Rhodiola originated in Russia afaik). :p The only "cardiohealthy" stimulant out there IMHO. Hell it is even legal and promoted in Norway, available in supermarkets.

Phenibut was scheduled in many places recently anyways.
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I’ve tried to get effects from Rhodiola cause people act like it’s amazing and I’ve taken large doses for a while several times and never felt anything at all.

Too bad cause people talk about it like it’s amazing and if it felt for me like it does for them that would be great.
 
burn out said:
Can you drive on phenibut?
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I’ve driven on lower doses, like 2 grams or less, though some people think those are high doses.

I wouldn’t suggest driving on higher doses than that though, and really, it can potentially be sedating at any dose and is a CNS depressant to some extent, so I’d be careful and can’t say I’d recommend it, but also can’t 100% rule out I would never possibly do it again lol.
 
waffle-head said:
Got folks on here talking about 1.5g PER DAY! Are you fkn nuts!!
1.5g per week, yep, but Goddarn slowwwww down before it's too late
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Disclaimer: I am not advocating that people take this substance consistently, or beyond what they feel comfortable with; I'm only sharing my personal experience.

I (usually) take Phenibut 2-3 times a week, and so long as I don't take it every day, I get absolutely no withdrawal symptoms. None. I've tested this out by going five days, a week, or even longer without it, and didn't even feel mild depressive symptoms. My dosage is 1.5 - 2.5 grams, and I did get up to that level with a mild tolerance.

I do wholeheartedly agree that people should be careful with this substance and start low and leave days (several days preferably) between doses. If mismanaged, Phenibut can be a dangerous substance to use; however, this applies to (most) other psychoactive substances as well. I've found a regimen with Phenibut that has enriched my life and lifestyle, and I think with a little foresight and discipline, others can do the same.

(Additional disclaimer: I'm only sharing my personal experience, and it's entirely possible that other people may not be able to adopt a similar dosing regimen without experiencing discomfort, or possibly even withdrawal symptoms. What works for one may not work for others, though anecdotally speaking, I've communicated with many others who have reported similar results as mine.)
 
Solipsis said:
What is rhodiola supposed to do? It sounds vague..
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If you think, Rhodiola is not effective, try to sleep on a high enough dose (not popping a ridiculous amount of bark extract capsules of course).

It is a stimulating adaptogen. Effects are mostly physiologically, that means it it stabilizes the cardio-vascular-system (very abstract description I know, please research further, when you are interested). The most astonishing property of this drug is, that it is actually causing a stabilization of the heartbeat (HR and BP) instead of increasing it like usual stimulants do. That for me makes this drug unique and highly valuable. The risk is very low.
 
I've been over sleeping too because of phenibut.

I find myself sleeping well over 12 hours and still find it difficult to initially wake up. Sometimes I have a headache or other odd feelings from oversleeping.

So far it's really only been the one downside to phenibut for me (besides the potential for addiction). There is an easy cure for me: I just have to make sure I force myself to get up after 6-9hrs of sleep. I find it difficult to wake up but once I'm actually up and awake the grogginess quickly fades.
 
Phenibut may cause some respiratory depression so combining it with other CNS depressants could lead to increased respiratory depression
 
MDPV_Psychosis said:
Is there any benefit to staggering doses of phenibut as opposed to taking it all in one large dose?
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That’s what I always do if I’m taking larger doses: I will start the day off lower like 1 dose of 1,500mgs (for me that is low even if some others may find that a high dose), then after that kicks in maybe take another 500mgs so that it’s 2,000, then another 4 or 500, etc.

How much I want to take depends on the day but I never exceed 4,000mgs in 24 hours because the tub says not to exceed 4,000 mgs in a week (and I usually won't be sometimes I will dose twice in a week, but even then I won't exceed 8,000mgs in a week) and so that put that number in my head and after hearing about how quickly Phenibut tolerance can rise and how addictive it is I decided I'd never exceed that in a day.

The benefit I see is that I can take more of it this way, because if I take too much all in one shot I will just get really really tired.

But for some reason, spacing out the doses and drinking coffee (I always drink a shitload of coffee anyway) will allow me to eventually end the day with having taken a larger combined dose but feeling good off of it when otherwise I would be too sedated.
 
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