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Misc Phenibut maybe stimulating me instead of making me sleep

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I suffer from chronic insomnia and have been using a few different things to help me sleep, sometimes they don't work though (tolerance) so i switch things round for a few days or take nothing and stay awake for a couple of days.

For the past 2 nights i have taken Phenibut but i think it has been stimulating instead of making me sleep.

On a regular basis i take the following with varying results, sometimes it works other times it doesn't:

2-4 Amitryptiline
2 Temazepam
400mg Choline Bitartrate
3g Glycine
2-400mg L-Theanine
2 Magnesium Glycinate (1g)

For the past 2 nights i have taken

Tuesday: 2 Amitryptiline, 1 temazepam, 300mg Phenibut and kept the other 4 at the same dosage.
I took the Amitryptiline around 8, the 4 powders and MG tabs around 9 on an empty stomach and went to bed around 11pm after a bath in epsom salts. Usually i feel sleepy around this time but i noticed my mind feeling more alert than usual and think it was the Phenibut.

With my usual dosage of things i sleep all the way through with maybe 1 trip to the toilet but this night with the 300mg of Phenibut i woke every 2 - 3 hours with my mind feeling very alert but could fall back to sleep, i woke around 7am feeling like i wanted to sleep more but got out of bed around 8 feeling quite alert and energized.

Wednesday (last night): The only things i change was i took 3 Amitrypiline and 500mg of Phenibut and the exact same happened.

What i would like to know is at those dosages will the Phenibut help with sleep or will it have a stimulating effect? When i was sleeping was my delta wave sleep deep? If so then i don't mind the occasional waking every 2 - 3 hours, or is Phenibut meant to help sleep all the way through?

Tonight i am going to keep all dosages the same except i will take 4 Amitryptiline and 1g of Phenibut, does anybody know if 1g is too much for sleep purposes?

I know Phenibut can be addictive so tonight will be my last night till sunday or monday were i will try again, sorry for the long post but thought it best i try describe everything.

Thanks
 
I tried 1g of phenibut, and that made me very sleepy and I went onto sleep for about 10 hour as opposed to my usual 7.5. I slept all the way through, but I cant say I was particularly refreshed the following day.

Given that very little of what you use help, I would take 1g four hours before bed, and another 500mg right before getting into bed.

This is just an opinion of course, but thats just what I would do in your shoes. Please be careful with pheni, there have been horror stories and you are wise to try it for the last time today before taking a break.
 
Thanks for the reply, I am planning on taking 1g around 9pm and hoping this is the right dose for me. Do you know of any interactions with the other stuff i am taking?

Yea i am definitely taking a break till sunday at least, things to help me sleep are the only things i don't abuse because i struggle to get any so anything that works i use wisely. I never take more than 20mg of temazepam a night and try have a few days off from them too.
 
I would be careful with the phenibut bro. It's a slippery slope. There's a reason it says to use no more than 2 days in a row without a 3 day wash out period. The withdrawals are hell and take less than a week of use to produce, and they lasted about a week for me. I don't know how long it could last for longer term use.
 
Yeah, phenibut does have stimulating properties IME; probably due to its dopamine activity; I actually find it mildly euphoric at low doses, using it with large amounts of caffeine was pretty "rushy". At very high doses (8 grams plus), I find it very sedating. Listen to 188thStreet here: regular use of phenibut can spiral out of control thanks to its rapid tolerance profile. I've been using it for 4 months, and am now taking around 12 grams a day.
 
Yeah I too noticed that phenibut was rather stimmy for a GABA-ergic, although when I was using phenibut it was in the mornings so by the time night came around I was rather tired. IMO phenibut isn't a very good "last minute" sleep aid, it only made me tired on the comedown.
 
Wow. I must have got the shittiest phenibut around lol. Zero stimulation...and I was expecting it to be sort of enhanced gabapentin.
 
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