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Phenibut experience and Withdrawal

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damo_463

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I recently bought 25grms of phenibut, before reading about its addiction potential. I only took the 25grms over the course of about 6-7 days, which is alot less amount of time and dosage I have read about others doing. The first time it took a good 4 hours to work and I felt less public anxiety. Felt like it would have been the thing for picking up chicks. The rest of the times i could feel it after about 2 hours. It seemed there wasn't much that great about this substance. It would put me to sleep very well though and made me feel more comfortable doing nothing. sometimes felt like being intoxicated without the excitement of alcohol. I would describe the high, if you could call it that, as very dirty. Yet I would go back for more.

So I had read about alot of people having nasty withdrawals from this substance. Of coarse I thought it wouldn't happen to me. Not in such a small amount of time. On average I probably did close to 2grms twice a day for like 6 days. Before I go to withdrawals, I should mention I have a history of depression and anxiety. After 24hrs of stopping It became really hard to sleep, started getting bad anxiety. I'm in like day 4 of stopping now and I have been getting really bad depression. Its pretty much as uncomfortable as a benzo withdrawal if not worse. This stuff is a dangerous substance!

Today was really hard, with anxiety and real bad depression. Someone suggested in a forum to use l-theanine for Phenibut withdrawal. So I went down to a chemist, supp shop and coles, but none had it. I ended up buying these natural pills called "cenovis chill pill". They contain Rhodiola rosea and Humulus lupulus "hops". They have helped me alot to relax again.

Just thought this could help if anyone is going through similar.
 
I have had no problems with phenibut use, as the tolerance rises so fast there's just no point of using it more than once or twice a week maybe. And I am king of frightened the possible withdrawal since there wouldn't be too many substances to ease that. But I don't find it addictive at all.

L-theanine though is similar, except even weaker.
 
I didn't find my tolerance rise much at all. I suppose it could have affected me different because I'm on a low dose of sodium valproate (Epilim). That also has something to do with GABA I believe.
 
2 grams x twice a day is where you went wrong, imho. 4 grams in a day is a hefty dose. I feel like anything over 2.5 to 3g is asking for trouble. I mix 2 scoops (~1.5 - 1.6g) into some gatorade and drink it. In a couple hours I start feeling very chill. I'll take one more scoop in the evening before bed. The half life is only 5 hours but I tend to feel very relaxed through the next day. I agree with cook^ that it's only useful to take it a couple times a week. I try to take 2 days off between doses. That's probably not even enough. 3 days or more would be better.

My guess is that the reason you felt like it was a "dirty" buzz is because you were taking such high doses. Phenibut has been a wonderful relaxant and sleep aid for me, but I've been very cautious not to abuse it. I've been through alcohol withdrawal and it was horrible. That experience put the fear of GABAergic drugs into me and now I avoid taking any such substance 2 or more days in a row.

I'm certainly not preaching, though. I'm currently recovering from N2O abuse. I guess we sometimes have to learn the hard way. ;)
 
I never experienced any dirtyness or hangover, my usual dose is 2 grams in single dose. Can you actually mix phenibut with a drink and still able to drink it without any bitterness? Once i dumped a decent amount of pure phenibut in my mouth and that was a mistake, possibly the worst taste imaginable.
 
^Haha, yeah straight phen powder in the mouth must be awful. I have actually come to enjoy the sourness of it when mixed with a sweet drink like gatorade. I think the sweetness of the gatorade offsets the sourness. I use the lemon-lime flavored sports drinks because a little sourness in a lemonade-type beverage doesn't taste bad. You could always buy the empty gelatin capsules and pack it in those too. But I really don't mind drinking it.

Just don't ever try snorting it. :P It is highly acidic and will cause a great deal of pain.
 
Actually i'm thinking plugging it, I remembering someone posting it works fine and with lower dose, possible faster onset too. Usually I take it in capsules, but I guess i'll try the drink if the taste is manageable.
 
I am interested in plugging this too. Please let us know your results. My mistake was to tried to add a touch sodium bicarbonate thinking to neutralize the 2 ph of phenubit in water and got a volcano type reaction andlost a gram to foam. Better luck next time.
 
drminaq said:
I am interested in plugging this too. Please let us know your results. My mistake was to tried to add a touch sodium bicarbonate thinking to neutralize the 2 ph of phenubit in water and got a volcano type reaction andlost a gram to foam. Better luck next time.
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I have not found a way to adjust the ph yet, sodium carbonate didn't work. It's impossible to plug bigger doses without the ph adjustment.
 
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