Great! Good to know, thx opes! I'm definitely gonna have to give this a try. The only way I can quit 1 drug is to substitute with something else, it's fucked up but it is what it is I guess. I used opiates to kick booze and a long time ago I used epills to kick opiates but I ran outta connects for the e's so I gotta find something else that'll work cause I know I'm gonna have to kick sometime in the near future. Thx for the info guys!
Edit: quick question, I've taken big doses of gabapentin before and felt absolutely nothing. Is the GABA similar to phenibut? I see people comparing the 2 so I'm just curious. I don't want to buy the phenibut if it's like the gabapentin cause I think I'd just throw it away.
I'm the same way, opioids have always been my drug of choice, but I've gone through periods when I've (ab)used benzodiazepines and other GABAergic drugs and amphetamines and then in the past I've combined opioids and benzodiazepines a lot to synergize with each other. With the phenibut, however, I've found it absolutely eliminates any cravings for other drugs. Because of this, I would recommend the substance to people trying to abstain from other drugs.
As for gabapentin, I guess the closest thing I could compare it to, having not tried pregabalin, would have to be phenibut. Gabapentin is really only recreational the first few times with the first time being the best. The effects include sedation and relaxation combined with an odd kind of stimulation, euphoria, talkativeness, reduction of anxiety, and elevated mood. I've taken over 10g in one day on more than one occasion with no adverse effects. Sometimes gabapentin's effects are difficult to distinguish and notice, but I'm sure you would feel the effects of phenibut. I find it much more recreational than gabapentin and phenibut's effects last at least 12 hours for me.
I would still really appreciate any input or feedback on the best way to kick my 10g+ day habit as previously posted. I have a ton of clonazolam at my disposal. Also, would you reccomend i do a taper such as going from 3.5g x3 a day to 2g x3 a day whilist taking my clonazolam? I do not have enough to do a slow 100mg taper, but rather than go cold turkey, would the insane drop of 1.5g in a single day(on top of having the clonazolam) make it batter than going cold turkey? Or should I just cold turkey? In case you didn't know clonazolam is 4x the strength of Klonopin. .5mg of clonazolam is equivalent to 4mg of klonospin. If not a little more. Clonazolam is an analogue of Clonazepam that has yet to be scheduled.
I basically have as much of this as needed at my disposal. I just want to get off of the phenibut as soon as possible. I am getting very negative side effects.
I do not want to get fucked up, i'm only looking to curb side effects of coming off the phenibut and to keep myself from panic attacks.
PLEASE post a reply ASAP if you have some type of advice for me. Also, how easy is it to get prescribed Lyrica or Pregabalin or Gabapentin? And should it be something I should tell my doctor I need for its on label use, or should I tell him that I'm addicted to phenibut, which he probably won't have an idea what it is, and that I need them for that?
I believe that you'll be fine with the clonazolam, especially if you still have phenibut to taper with. With only phenibut, I've found it didn't cause any problems dropping my dose down by several grams. I took 15g one day then over 24 hours later was experiencing withdrawal when I took just 5g and felt fantastic. Since you have clonazolam, I would imagine you could taper the phenibut by 1.5g or even 2g per day or so while supplementing with the benzodiazepine and be fine.
As for pregabalin and gabapentin, any doctor would be much more likely to prescribe gabapentin. Some doctors are less likely to prescribe things if you use the word addiction around them, especially if you're trying to tell them what you need prescribed. If you do try to get a script though, I would tell the doctor that you're about to run out of phenibut, maybe explain what it is and what receptors it acts on, and then suggest gabapentin to ease yourself through the withdrawal because of its similar mechanism of action. However instead of gabapentin, I would ask for baclofen. For me, gabapentin took away most of the withdrawal from the phenibut, but that relief didn't last very long so I had to keep redosing. With baclofen, it took away all withdrawals and that relief lasted for the remainder of the day, sometimes into the next day if I had taken a larger dose.
But once again, I don't think you'd even need gabapentin or baclofen to help with the taper if you have clonazolam. I ordered some clonazolam online a few months ago and it quickly became my favorite benzodiazepine of all time. I have to correct you though, you said it's four times as strong as clonazepam which would mean 0.5mg of clonazolam is equal to 2mg clonazepam, not 4mg, but I think that was a typo you made.
I would have replied with my advice earlier, but I hadn't been on here in some days.