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Misc Phenibut - best way to take? Pictures inside..

i have a lot of experience with primaforce and liftmode and liftmode is much better imo..phenibut is NOT always a fun ride, i find that half of the time i take a larger dose(4-5 grams) i feel great, very social and motivated, outgoing etc etc..problem is, the other half of the time i take this same large amount i feel lethargic and tired..so, phenibuts effects are not consistent, thats my biggest gripe..there have been times ive taken 2-3 grams and just wanted t lay down and stare at the wall, not a good feeling but other times, it feels like a non-jittery version of meth in terms of energy..yes, it feels like a toned down version of Ghb at times..

phenibut gives me nasty brain fog though, thats another gripe..

phenibut is very easy to taper off of though, this is where im much different than most people it seems..i can taper a gram a day and not notice much difference at all and then when i go off completely, i use gabapentin for 4-5 days and im good, withdrawals are mostly eliminated..so for all those saying phenibut withdrawals are hellish and unbearable, simply grab a handful of gabapentin, problem solved..
 
Phenibut withdrawals are hellish, but they only last two days! It's doable with gabapentin and hopefully some benzos. I've had to kick it myself and it's truly hell, your body goes way the fuck outta whack, heart pounding, high blood pressure, anxiety. UGH. I hate phenibut now.

Shit trashes your kidneys btw. Give it up if you can!
 
well, I bought this Phenibut to help kick my heroin habit next week. not gonna be fun but using Phenibut to help get through the day and xanny to help sleep at night. not fun either way.
 
belfort said:
i have a lot of experience with primaforce and liftmode and liftmode is much better imo..phenibut is NOT always a fun ride, i find that half of the time i take a larger dose(4-5 grams) i feel great, very social and motivated, outgoing etc etc..problem is, the other half of the time i take this same large amount i feel lethargic and tired..so, phenibuts effects are not consistent, thats my biggest gripe..there have been times ive taken 2-3 grams and just wanted t lay down and stare at the wall, not a good feeling but other times, it feels like a non-jittery version of meth in terms of energy..yes, it feels like a toned down version of Ghb at times..

phenibut gives me nasty brain fog though, thats another gripe..

phenibut is very easy to taper off of though, this is where im much different than most people it seems..i can taper a gram a day and not notice much difference at all and then when i go off completely, i use gabapentin for 4-5 days and im good, withdrawals are mostly eliminated..so for all those saying phenibut withdrawals are hellish and unbearable, simply grab a handful of gabapentin, problem solved..
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Maybe it has something to do with how full or empty your stomach is at the time of taking the dose? Idk, the social effects only came the first couple of times and then disappeared. I haven't had it in about a year though so I'm hoping I'll get those effects when I take it tomorrow.

BostonBrownTown said:
well, I bought this Phenibut to help kick my heroin habit next week. not gonna be fun but using Phenibut to help get through the day and xanny to help sleep at night. not fun either way.
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Good luck man
 
That sounds fine BBT, just don't get too fond of the phenibut! The wd's from phenibut makes heroin WD look like some baby shit, trust me.
 
I've read about it many times; scary shit. about to go through dope withdrawals next week which is why I bought the Phenibut to help get through the withdrawals. should be some fun times ahead, ha.
 
Phenibut can cause some NASTY withdrawals in a very short period of time. Keep the doses low (1-2 grams) and infrequent (no more than 2 times a week). I heard plugging it works best, but I haven't tried it and don't really plan to. It's an exit-only :P
 
Nicholai said:
Shit trashes your kidneys btw. Give it up if you can!
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Do you have a source for that?

As for my experience with this compound, I've taken 3 - 4 grams a week for the past two months. Here are some thoughts:

I've experienced what seems to be the beginning of withdrawal and it's rather easily staved off by a ~250 mg dose. From there, I was able to taper my total dose for the week.

A couple times I've noticed a burned sensation on the inside gums of my upper jaw. Could this be a reaction to the HCL?
 
Most of the published work on phen is in russian and thus I cannot read it. I ended up with kidney failure with the shit though! They had to pump three bags of saline into me before my kidneys started working again. The pH of it in water is like 2.3, the body can't neutralize it and you end up with acidosis. Perhaps one of the more scientific members can find something, but my quick google scholar search didn't yield much!
 
Nicholai said:
That sounds fine BBT, just don't get too fond of the phenibut! The wd's from phenibut makes heroin WD look like some baby shit, trust me.
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im sorry but i think this is an idiotic statement..ive kicked both heroin and phenibut, cold turkey at times and heroin withdrawal is 20 times as worse as phenibut wds..there isnt even a comparison imo..heroin withdrawals made me suicidal basically but phenibut wds made me just feel bad, nothing i couldnt handle..

ive said it before but the best way to take phenibut is to take a small dose daily(1-1.5 grams) and then when you need it to work socially you take 4-5 grams..then it still packs a very heavy punch...i still very strong effects from phenibut when i need it to work and ive taken it for years(for the most part daily)..you just cant take the same dosage every day..

BBT-werent you on subuxone?phenibut isnt going to be much help kicking heroin imo...better off going with subuxone..
 
as for phenibut damaging the kidneys, where is the evidence?i have yet to see any.
 
Nicholai said:
Most of the published work on phen is in russian and thus I cannot read it. I ended up with kidney failure with the shit though! They had to pump three bags of saline into me before my kidneys started working again. The pH of it in water is like 2.3, the body can't neutralize it and you end up with acidosis. Perhaps one of the more scientific members can find something, but my quick google scholar search didn't yield much!
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How much were you taking before you developed acidosis and what were the symptoms of the acidosis?
 
I think I stupidly eyeballed a dose. I ended up passing out naked in the hallway! LOL

Woke up chained down in the hospital. Not fun. The symptoms of that are really nasty...body aches, pain, severe dehydration. With phenibut specifically, in my experience.

It was definitely an overdose, seeing as how my kidneys shut down.

I'm not making this shit up as has been suggested above. Don't believe me...well, you don't want to find out personally, either!
 
Nicholai said:
I think I stupidly eyeballed a dose. I ended up passing out naked in the hallway! LOL

Woke up chained down in the hospital. Not fun. The symptoms of that are really nasty...body aches, pain, severe dehydration. With phenibut specifically, in my experience.

It was definitely an overdose, seeing as how my kidneys shut down.

I'm not making this shit up as has been suggested above. Don't believe me...well, you don't want to find out personally, either!
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Wow...though the reassurance I have is that I've never exceeded 1 gram in a dose. However, perhaps it can happen with higher frequency lower doses...
 
Fractality said:
Wow...though the reassurance I have is that I've never exceeded 1 gram in a dose. However, perhaps it can happen with higher frequency lower doses...
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Definitely. Because Phenibut has a pretty long half life from what I remember. I know if I take it around dinnertime I'm still feeling it the next morning assuming I take somewhere around the ~1.5 gram range. I've gotten some weird and pretty unpleasant effects from higher doses myself.
 
Do you think it's possible to mix .5-1g with water and drink it, or is the taste too bad for this?
 
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