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Phenibut - Best method of ingestion?

pema

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I got some phenibut. Bulk powder. Of course there is no medical package information leaflet.
It's a dietary supplement in the United States and probably something as a research chemical in most EU states. So it's not possible to download such a package information leaflet.
I think it's a medicament in Russia but I don't speak Russian so it's no use in searching for a Russion package information leaflet.
So I have to believe what I find in drug discussion forums in the internet.

A usual dose shall be 500-1500mg. Bioavailability shall be low (oral or rectal at around 3% only).
It shall take up to 3 hours until onset of effects when used orally, 1.5 hours when used rectally but only 5 minuets when used sublingually.
For oral dose I read values from 800-1500mg but only 100mg-150mg for the same effect when used sublingually.

Is there really such a big difference (in onset time and dosage) between oral and sublingual use?
I couldn't find real (proved) information. Nearly everything I found were just reports from some people who tried it by themselves.
I don't know where I read this and I can't remember the exact value but I know that I read about the pH of phenibut and this was a value that seemed to low (or was it too high?) to keep it under the tongue. Maybe long time sublingual use would be not good for the teeth, I think. But that's no so important now.

Has anybody experience with sublingual use of phenibut? How long do I need to keep it under the tongue until everything is dissolved/resorbed over mucous membrane?

When it's good dissolvable in water then it's probably also possible to snort that stuff. Maybe it gives you a terrible feeling in your nose. I don't know. Any information on snorting? Experiences?
Would it be possible to inject this stuff?

Any information about how long it takes until onset of the effect when used oral, rectal, sublingual, snorting?
And how long the effect stays then? Half-life time?

What are the drug interactions?
I read that combination with aclohol would give you GHB-like effects but otherwise I often read warnings not to mix it with alcohol.
Combination with baclofen shall also be avoided.
But I don't know what is true. Any proved information?
 
Ingest it. HL is long, very long. I'd say 24 hours. Do not take with other depressants.
 
Yea, I was also very interested as to what the intranasal BA is like...

Good god, why would you want to do this. You do realize a normal dose ranges from a gram & up. Do you really want to be putting your nose through that? Even if it were possible to do less with this method, you're still looking at a lot of material up the ol shnozz.
 
Laika - I never said I was going to snort it... plus the fact that I've never heard of anyone snorting more and 100-200mg. If it was worth it I might consider snorting such an amount, although yea obviously it would be pretty silly if I set out to snort an average oral dose (as you mention 1g+). It sounds painful enough to make me lean more towards just eating it like your average (ab)user. This issue is the precise reason I yell at people who "enjoy" snorting Norcos, Vicodins, Percs, etc. etc. Too much crap to put up one's nose, for sure.

Likewise, as discussed in the second link I have in my last post up there, there is also the question of rectal BA =D
 
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