Phenazepam for PEA Comedowns

[CaptainAmerica]

I really like using PEA's (2c-e, 2c-i, 2c-t-2). However, I find that sometimes I could really benefit from a benzo during the comedown process, or for sleep.
I currently have no access to benzos, except if I were to order Phenazepam online.
I have a mg scale and all that jazz, but as far as Phenazepam goes, is it a decent chemical for easing the comedown (like valium or atavan etc.) or does it have some negative qualities that I'm not aware of

(Note: I've tried pretty much every benzo there is at one point or another (except Phenazepam) so if you could relate effects, that'd be one more way to help!

 

[Bella Figura]

Your average mg scale probably isn't good enough for weighing Phenazepam seeing as its active at 0.5mg. I'd recommend dissolving it in propylene glycol and using liquid measurement instead.

How it compares to other benzos, well, it does the job, it'll kill anxiety and help you get to sleep, the only negative quality is that it generally comes in powder form and is incredibly hard to dose, you just have to read trip reports of people eyeballing it to see the damage that can be done.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Any idea where could I buy some propylene glycol?

 

[hobhead]

i wholeheartedly recommend against this trash. i managed to get accurate 1.5 mg dose in me and i was pulled over to do roadside sobriety test. could not drive second day because it lasts more than 2 days.
alprazolam, for those who can get it, is short acting and strong.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Oh great... so it lasts mega long?
so if xanax lasts 2-4 hours, how long for Phenazepam?

 

[Bella Figura]

Its got a half life of 60hours.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

holy balls dude! that stinks.
I'm still planning on experimenting with it, so anyone got any links or threads i should read in order to educate myself more and hopefully follow safer procedures (that i would otherwise be unaware of)

Curse the illegality of good benzos (and drugs for that matter) you damn goverment!!!

 

[jamaica0535]

its not illegal if you have a prescription....

and a lot of psychiatrist will hand out xanax, klonopin, and vallium like candy... trust me, witnessing someone after 16 years of benzo use on the floor having a seizure is not fun....

 

[Solipsis]

Phenazepam is legal.

Many people advise against it though, enough so to make me stop considering getting it. Even when you get a good dosing method, you can't make the mistake of taking too much or seriously risk being knocked on your ass with retrograde amnesia for the better part of the week! Not to mention the tendency of this stuff to produce withdrawals when quitting. It takes a lot less frequent dosing to get a very long effect making you prone to addiction.
In return the effect doesn't even appear to be that nice of an effect, it's way hypnotic. If people don't even report quite positive sides to it why bother? The best I've heard someone say is that it resembles alprazolam in effect and dose only lasting longer. But I think that only goes if you really limit the dose, and its still more hypnotic than anxiolytic apparently.

My advice after reading around is also to steer clear.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I meant illegality of xanax, valium, at least for me to currently possess it (as i have no prescription).

Well, I think my mind is too set on it not to try it, its that curiosity to have knowledge of any substance i can come across.

I'll do the water method, dilute it to 1mg per 2ml (10mg dissolved in 20ml)
and then do 1/2ml (which would equal .25mg per dose)

 

[Solipsis]

What water method? It doesn't dissolve in it

 

[Link_S]

^propylene glycol will work

I used 18mg yesterday after a stim binge this weekend (stupidly i know). No black out but did help me sleep in a few hours. These were in blotter form

 

[CaptainAmerica]

My bad guys, i totally meant propylene glycol.

Speaking of propylene glycol, are there stores that would carry say 100-500ml of usp grade, (stores like walgreens, walmart, stores common in middle ohio)
Or am i better off ordering some off of the internet?

 

[Link_S]

*snip* (sorry if this is considered sourcing)

 

[CaptainAmerica]

cool
so essentially, as long as its usp grade it aight, right?

 

[Link_S]

Yeah any pure prop should be fime

 

[Delsyd]

ive used Phenazepam for comedowns.
Works pretty much like every other benzo ive tried.

Stupidly (and not in the spirit of Harm reduction) my doses of this stuff were always eyeballed but i tend to have a bit of benzo tolerance.
im guessing ive taken upto 10mg, maybe even more.

For a benzo naive person i wouldnt recomend Phenazepam as their first benzo (especially in powder form), because of its real low dose and the horror stories ive read of black outs.

But if you're set on doing it, liquid measurment is your best option for dosing this stuff.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Cool,
I will for sure use the liquid measurement option

I plan on dissolving 10mg of phenazepam in 20ml of Propylene Glycol
which means that one ml = .5mg of phenazepam

I plan on taking .25mg the first time, waiting a day, and then slowly increase to learn how it affects me, because i love benzos, but never, EVER, have access to them. And the few times that I have klonopin or something similar, it is beauty for a long hard trip or *minor* binge.

 

[bbx4]

Phenazepam will also dissolve into 99% isopropyl alcohol with a bit of shaking. I have done this before using a solution of 1mg/ml. You don't really want to be ingesting isopropyl alcohol but I don't believe 2 ml will hurt you. But in any case you should squirt your dose onto a piece of toilet paper, paper towel, or tissue and let the isopropyl alcohol evaporate just in case.

I believe phenazepam will also dissolve into really strong alcohol (Everclear) and that might be better because then you don't have to lay it on paper first.

 

[Newmoonrecord]

Phenazepam will also dissolve into 99% isopropyl alcohol with a bit of shaking. I have done this before using a solution of 1mg/ml. You don't really want to be ingesting isopropyl alcohol but I don't believe 2 ml will hurt you. But in any case you should squirt your dose onto a piece of toilet paper, paper towel, or tissue and let the isopropyl alcohol evaporate just in case.

I believe phenazepam will also dissolve into really strong alcohol (Everclear) and that might be better because then you don't have to lay it on paper first.

Great idea! This should be totally safe. Personally i would squirt it onto a saltine cracker cause that's easier to eat than toilet paper but that's me.