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Phenazepam duration?

frontbluntt

frontbluntt

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I see it has an extremely long half-life, but how long are effects actually felt for? Can I take some tonight without worrying about being fucked up when I wake up tomorrow?

Please if I could get some concrete answers without this getting closed or moved I would really appreciate it as it concerns my immediate future
 
^ It's obviously going to be dose dependent. How much are you thinking of taking? And how much time is between now and when you have to get up tomorrow (BL is international so best to time or time zone) ?

Considering that people have taken a single high dose and not remembered anything for several days, it is quite possible that you will still be feeling the effects of the phenazepam in the morning if you take anything but a tiny dose (like less than 0.5mg, and you must have a very accurate scale down to the microgram level, or else you are playing with fire).
 
I wanted to use it to help come down and sleep after a stim, so I was thinking 2-3mg. I would be sleeping at least 8 hours

I would also feel good hearing from someone who has actual experience with the drug, if possible
 
effie said:
It depends on your tolerance. 1mg phenazepam = 10mg diaz (source - conversion chart, with other benzos too) - if you are benzo-naive, and want to wake up after 8 hours, I'd not take more than 1mg, maybe less..

I've not taken it though sorry! I hope you are using liquid dosing :)
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I usually take 5-6 etizolam to come down from stims and I'm also prescribed .5 clonazepam daily so I think 2-3mg of this will be fine (it's accurately dosed), it's just I have things to do tomorrow when I wake up (not responsibilities, just things I want to do for fun) and I don't want to still be fucked up.

I mostly want to know that my motor coordination will be intact tomorrow as I want to go skate!
 
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Even at .5mgs your motor control is bound to be affected only 8-10 hours later but as to how much, I really couldn't say. I had a g of it once and justs lost a week an a bit, total blackout, luckily I was pretty much bed bound at the time....so I'm told.

Just be really, really careful with that stuff, I wouldn't go near it now for anything. I have a few vague memories of dosing more during those dew days, the original dosing started by dipping the end of a paper clip into the powder but was soon just me trying to eyeball "a bit more" racking it up and hoofing it:|

I had no idea when I had taken the last dose it could have been minutes before, if your going to take it you definitely need either very accurate scale and know ho to use it or a prepared liquid solution, I would also strongly advise that you keep a written record of when and how much you took, that way you have half a chance of it not going badly wrong.

If it were me I'd flush the stuff but you aren't me so just be real careful
 
atm23 said:
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Even at .5mgs your motor control is bound to be affected only 8-10 hours later but as to how much, I really couldn't say. I had a g of it once and justs lost a week an a bit, total blackout, luckily I was pretty much bed bound at the time....so I'm told.

Just be really, really careful with that stuff, I wouldn't go near it now for anything. I have a few vague memories of dosing more during those dew days, the original dosing started by dipping the end of a paper clip into the powder but was soon just me trying to eyeball "a bit more" racking it up and hoofing it:|

I had no idea when I had taken the last dose it could have been minutes before, if your going to take it you definitely need either very accurate scale and know ho to use it or a prepared liquid solution, I would also strongly advise that you keep a written record of when and how much you took, that way you have half a chance of it not going badly wrong.

If it were me I'd flush the stuff but you aren't me so just be real careful
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It's very accurately measured, and I only measured out two 2mg doses and then left my house so I'm stuck with only 4mg that I can do at the most, I'm being smart about it in my opinion. Has anyone taken non-binge doses that can report on the next day feeling? Consider that I can take 1.5mg of clonazepam right before bed and feel normal if ever so slightly groggy in the morning
 
I'd suggest taking half of one fo those doses.
Since you know you've already accuately measured 2mg doses - take one and split it in half and then take the half dose.

That way you've taken ~1mg.

From that point just wait 1.5-3 hours and if you are still crashing hard from the stims then add another ~0.5mg (the left over half split in half again)

I can't stress this enough that you really need to go slow with phenazepam! I know you have benzo tolerance already but its VERY easy to overdue it with phenazepam. there's no way to untake it if you go for 2mg right at once and then wake up 24 hours later...

so start slow and work your way up.
Make sure you are in a comfortable place where you can fall asleep easily to reduce the urge to get up and take more.
Please be careful

the benzo chart would suggest that 3mg phenazepam is roughly equivalent to 1.5mg clonazepam but keep in mind that the affects of these two benzos are a bit different. Phenazepam causes a lot more amnesia then clonazepam so I would certainly not just take your normal dosage of clonazepam and convert it straight to a dosage of phenazepam and take that all at once. It'd be better to take half of what you think you'll need and then play the waiting game. But then you really have to be patient and resist the urge to just dose more 30 mins later.

Its much more worth it to deal with a crappy stim comedown and not get as uch sleep as you'd need then to take mor ethan needed and end up being nearly non-functional the next morning when you wake up with shit to do.
 
Okay so here's an update: I took 2mg of phenazepam after coming down from my stim. I was feeling as though it wasn't going to put me to sleep but I powered through the urge to take the other two mg (thank god). Instead I took a few etizolam (much shorter half-life) and was able to pass out.

What is stunning to me is that the entire first few hours of my morning are a mystery to me. Suddenly I realized I was skating at a skatepark at like 2:00pm and my motor skills were pretty off. My balance was not what it should be. The last thing I remembered was laying down to go to sleep 10 hours ago. Apparently I had woken up, eaten lunch, gone home to shower, etc., went to my friend's house and we had gone to the skatepark. This whole time I felt fine, happy I didn't feel a shitty stimulant come-down. Apparantly I was still on that initial 2mg phenazepam dose and didn't even know it. Imagine if I had taken two more in the morning or somethinglike that. This drug seems very dangerous.

I've never taken a benzo which causes this severe amnesia. Alprazolam gave me some severe amnesia but not the NEXT FUCKING DAY. Etizolam is my favorite benzo due to its short half-life, euphoric properties, and, for me, no amnesia whatsoever.

I would advise people to stay away from phenazepam because if you have a baggie full of it your could be in serious danger.
 
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